You people make me sick
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Throughout all of this thread the important thing to remember is that there's three sides to every story...her side, his side and the truth!
Good luck with that...in Canada it is a no fault divorce...meaning that if a couple divorces the reasons for the divorce do not matter (unless there is a pre-nuptual agreement that contains specifics about infidelity)
If a couple gets divorced because the man or woman was cheating it does not matter...same goes if one person is a problem gambler/alchoholic and what ever else you can think of...it just plain dont matter...yes the gal will be entitled to 50% of the assets of the marriage which include the house/investments/CPP payouts when they are recieved/vehicles and a bunch of other things as well... and of course she is entitled to child support...if she gets custody of the children....BUT if the OP in her rage somehow thinks that because she caught her husband cheating on her can thusly lay claim to every asset then good fucking luck to her......of course she has every right to drag this through court and in the end having 20-30% of the total value of the assets being eaten up through legal fees to lawyers.
No fuckin way she is getting 100% though.
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Me thinks that this posting was fake from the get go but, in the unlikely event that it wasn't, maybe they'll work it out. Regarding the age olde question of why mean cheats...it's in the genes...men are hunters and women are gatherers...
If a fellow provides for his wife and family is there really any harm done if he has the odd blowie or hand job on the side? Isn't really just a healthy release of sexual tension and fair distribution of cash into the economy?
Thank you SO much for that...it's been a blah day and the laugh that you provided for me was terrific. Memo to self...go away at this time next year 'cause it's boresville around here this time of year.
Monogamy is all about ego and control. Maybe its kind of romantic to think true love forever after and you will never need anybody else for the rest of your life, but really its all about ego/insecurity and control. That's it. I've gotten jealous in past relationships here and there, but its never been over sex. My lover can have sex right beside me with anybody. If I feel like joining in, maybe I will, maybe I won't. What I won't stand for in a relationship is being lied to or sneaking around. Tell me so I can make an educated decision about how I want to react. If I'm in a relationship, that person is my best friend, and my best friend shouldn't need to sneak around. If you have an itch go scratch. Its not about me. I don't understand these relationships that are all about drama, jealousy, withholding sex, and bad hygiene, etc, etc. These two have not been friends for a while. That is why the relationship is over. He cheated because they did not have open communication of any kind.
You make some good points Harmony but, in the end, it all comes down to Men Are From Mars and Women Are From Venus...no?
Harmony,
I don't think many relationships based on "traditional" values could handle the kind of honesty you describe. That's not to say you are incorrect. I think you are in fact correct in yr. assessment.
A husband may love his wife and cherish the family. Be that as it may, he may be curious to experience different types of sexual experiences that the wife, due to personality or preference, is unable to provide.
I don't think many relationships based on "traditional" values could handle the kind of honesty you describe. That's not to say you are incorrect. I think you are in fact correct in yr. assessment.
A husband may love his wife and cherish the family. Be that as it may, he may be curious to experience different types of sexual experiences that the wife, due to personality or preference, is unable to provide.
Sadly, most of the responses in this thread merely reinforce the OPs view that men are basically selfish animals.
Most of the men here are either convinced that the OP is not real and is just someone who is in dire need of attention, or that the OP was to blame for her husband's indiscretion. This is really pathetic. Whether the OP is real or not, cheating on your partner is never justfied. It is simply wrong for the simple reason that it hurts. It is something that you don't do to someone you love and deeply care for.
I don't get it when men say they love their wives while at the same time confess to doing things they know in their heart will devastate their wives. Where is the love in that? We are not animals who are fully governed by our basic instincts. I can never understand why some men feel entitled to cheat if their wives are not able to fulfill all their sexual fantasies. Why did you not tell her that when you asked her to marry you? If it is only later that you realize the marriage is not working, why not break the marriage first before seeing someone else?
I hope the younger men reading this thread will seek out advice from people with successful marriages. There are many of them happy couples out there. Seek them out and learn from them. This is not the forum to learn about successful marriage for the men who spend their time here either have bad marriages (me included) or are cheaters. If you are a young and single man, stay here long enough and you will soon find yourself being one or the other.
As for the SPs who knowingly have sex with married men, how are you able to go through with it? I can understand if SPs make it their policy to assume that the men they are seeing are single because it does not make sense to interview every client first to find out if they are married or not. However, at some point, perhaps after multiple visits, an SP will be able to confirm that the men they're seeing is married and have children. Now how do you SPs rationalize it? How do you make sense of what is right and what is wrong when you know for sure that you are contributing to the potential breakdown of the man's marriage? Perhaps you think that if the situation is reversed, you would not mind and that you are open-minded. But do you ever stop and think about how the other woman whose husband you are sleeping with? Or is it all just business, as long as the money comes in, never mind who gets hurt or what gets broken?
Most civilized societies have norms against willfully hurting another person. Too bad we invoke this norm mostly when we think of harm that affects the physical, not the ones that devastate the person's being.
Most of the men here are either convinced that the OP is not real and is just someone who is in dire need of attention, or that the OP was to blame for her husband's indiscretion. This is really pathetic. Whether the OP is real or not, cheating on your partner is never justfied. It is simply wrong for the simple reason that it hurts. It is something that you don't do to someone you love and deeply care for.
I don't get it when men say they love their wives while at the same time confess to doing things they know in their heart will devastate their wives. Where is the love in that? We are not animals who are fully governed by our basic instincts. I can never understand why some men feel entitled to cheat if their wives are not able to fulfill all their sexual fantasies. Why did you not tell her that when you asked her to marry you? If it is only later that you realize the marriage is not working, why not break the marriage first before seeing someone else?
I hope the younger men reading this thread will seek out advice from people with successful marriages. There are many of them happy couples out there. Seek them out and learn from them. This is not the forum to learn about successful marriage for the men who spend their time here either have bad marriages (me included) or are cheaters. If you are a young and single man, stay here long enough and you will soon find yourself being one or the other.
As for the SPs who knowingly have sex with married men, how are you able to go through with it? I can understand if SPs make it their policy to assume that the men they are seeing are single because it does not make sense to interview every client first to find out if they are married or not. However, at some point, perhaps after multiple visits, an SP will be able to confirm that the men they're seeing is married and have children. Now how do you SPs rationalize it? How do you make sense of what is right and what is wrong when you know for sure that you are contributing to the potential breakdown of the man's marriage? Perhaps you think that if the situation is reversed, you would not mind and that you are open-minded. But do you ever stop and think about how the other woman whose husband you are sleeping with? Or is it all just business, as long as the money comes in, never mind who gets hurt or what gets broken?
Most civilized societies have norms against willfully hurting another person. Too bad we invoke this norm mostly when we think of harm that affects the physical, not the ones that devastate the person's being.
Anyone who's been around the block knows that behind every successful marriage there's some tom foolery goin' on...everybody has their dark side and we all participate in whatever gets us through the night...
Some would say that even merely contemplating a "cold shower" is cheating.
"But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart."
"This is not the forum to learn about successful marriage for the men who spend their time here either have bad marriages (me included) or are cheaters."
Don't you mean and are cheaters? You aren't here just to lust after the pictures of naked women surely?
A pastor at a Pentecostal Church I was attending gave an unexpected sermon on sex. He explained that most of the failures in Christian marriages happen because during the up bringing of the children sex is treated as a dirty subject. Consequently, when the children grow and marry they do not bring to the marriage bed all their true desires for fear of being labeled as unclean. But, the desires are there never-the-less and in order to fulfill these needs they go outside the marriage. He encouraged his congregation to be more open with their spouses about their needs. But change is very hard after years of repression.
There is an amazing website dedicated to educating Christian couples about their sexuality. It was begun by a group of Christian women who want other women to see that by pleasing your man you can keep your marriage fresh and alive. Their website is: ChristianNymphos.com
I have had regular guests who are married men. It is very sad to hold a man in your arms while he cries because he has not been touched with affection for years. It is a horrible life sentence to put on a human, this act of withholding love, whether it is through sexual touch or just the touch of a friend. We all need to be hugged and listened to. I try to discover what is happening in the relationship. Sometimes women can go through hormonal changes and they don't like to be touched anymore. Sometimes they are lesbians but they choose to marry to please their family but they can never feel pleasure in the touch of their husband. It is wrong to cheat a human by lying before marriage about your sexuality. Some of these women were very hot to trot until the wedding ring was on the finger and then they turned off the charm. A friend of mine married his sweetheart. They could hardly wait for the wedding night or so he thought. They had many nights of 'make out' sessions without completing the act. On the wedding night she pleaded a headache and then she said she was afraid of getting pregnant too soon, and then she could not get on birth control because of something else. He waited 6 months to finally consummate the wedding night. That is unacceptable behaviour!
There is a very famous prostitute in the bible named Rahab. It might be interesting to find out why. We cannot judge until we fully understand and there are so any shades of gray in this world, nothing is absolute.
Don't you mean and are cheaters? You aren't here just to lust after the pictures of naked women surely?
A pastor at a Pentecostal Church I was attending gave an unexpected sermon on sex. He explained that most of the failures in Christian marriages happen because during the up bringing of the children sex is treated as a dirty subject. Consequently, when the children grow and marry they do not bring to the marriage bed all their true desires for fear of being labeled as unclean. But, the desires are there never-the-less and in order to fulfill these needs they go outside the marriage. He encouraged his congregation to be more open with their spouses about their needs. But change is very hard after years of repression.
There is an amazing website dedicated to educating Christian couples about their sexuality. It was begun by a group of Christian women who want other women to see that by pleasing your man you can keep your marriage fresh and alive. Their website is: ChristianNymphos.com
I have had regular guests who are married men. It is very sad to hold a man in your arms while he cries because he has not been touched with affection for years. It is a horrible life sentence to put on a human, this act of withholding love, whether it is through sexual touch or just the touch of a friend. We all need to be hugged and listened to. I try to discover what is happening in the relationship. Sometimes women can go through hormonal changes and they don't like to be touched anymore. Sometimes they are lesbians but they choose to marry to please their family but they can never feel pleasure in the touch of their husband. It is wrong to cheat a human by lying before marriage about your sexuality. Some of these women were very hot to trot until the wedding ring was on the finger and then they turned off the charm. A friend of mine married his sweetheart. They could hardly wait for the wedding night or so he thought. They had many nights of 'make out' sessions without completing the act. On the wedding night she pleaded a headache and then she said she was afraid of getting pregnant too soon, and then she could not get on birth control because of something else. He waited 6 months to finally consummate the wedding night. That is unacceptable behaviour!
There is a very famous prostitute in the bible named Rahab. It might be interesting to find out why. We cannot judge until we fully understand and there are so any shades of gray in this world, nothing is absolute.
OK, first off, pissedoffwife is a great handle. 
Second, as has been brought up before, communication is the key. In this case, ther seems to be a lack of it and/or an inability to communicate in an effective and constructive manner.
One thing women forget, especially those in long term relationships is guys are not intuitive creatures. We need to be told and taught what you want. Nagging or yelling at us will not get the message across. Being loving, kind and patient will. There is nothing wrong with making a declaration of your wants and needs but doing do in a way that elevates yours above his or making us feel sub human if we get it wrong will get the guy to tune right out. This will break down your intimacy and therefore break down your sex life. The one thing women most women do not seem to get is that if guys are not getting good regular sex at home, they will go somewhere else. Some guys can hold out for a while but eventually we will all crack.
HOWEVER, the guy has to make the effort, too. A good man is observant with his woman and tries to learn from his mistakes. He has to be able to recognize what she needs when she needs it. No guy will ever be 100% but if the woman is a decent person she will appreciate the effort and nudge him in the right direction for next time. If a woman can't appreciate an act of kindness, then she isn't worth a damn.
Lastly, to the comments made towards the ladies on this board by pissedoffwife, GO JUMP IN THE LAKE (and i cleaned that up as to not get in trouble the MODS). There are ladies who have been reviewed here and who have advertised here who's ethics, I think, are below reproach, but the majority of ladies here seem to be are lovely people who take pride in their work and are only doing their best to please their clientele. The next time you decide to vent on a review board, perhaps you should educate yourself and choose your words more carefully.
Second, as has been brought up before, communication is the key. In this case, ther seems to be a lack of it and/or an inability to communicate in an effective and constructive manner.
One thing women forget, especially those in long term relationships is guys are not intuitive creatures. We need to be told and taught what you want. Nagging or yelling at us will not get the message across. Being loving, kind and patient will. There is nothing wrong with making a declaration of your wants and needs but doing do in a way that elevates yours above his or making us feel sub human if we get it wrong will get the guy to tune right out. This will break down your intimacy and therefore break down your sex life. The one thing women most women do not seem to get is that if guys are not getting good regular sex at home, they will go somewhere else. Some guys can hold out for a while but eventually we will all crack.
HOWEVER, the guy has to make the effort, too. A good man is observant with his woman and tries to learn from his mistakes. He has to be able to recognize what she needs when she needs it. No guy will ever be 100% but if the woman is a decent person she will appreciate the effort and nudge him in the right direction for next time. If a woman can't appreciate an act of kindness, then she isn't worth a damn.
Lastly, to the comments made towards the ladies on this board by pissedoffwife, GO JUMP IN THE LAKE (and i cleaned that up as to not get in trouble the MODS). There are ladies who have been reviewed here and who have advertised here who's ethics, I think, are below reproach, but the majority of ladies here seem to be are lovely people who take pride in their work and are only doing their best to please their clientele. The next time you decide to vent on a review board, perhaps you should educate yourself and choose your words more carefully.
This is true, which is why, I advocate honesty. If you can't be honest for whatever reason, be discrete or single. I don't believe in monogamy, but I do believe in respecting the person you are with, which means not unnecessarily hurting the person
hahaha, Do we know the same men?
I'm kidding, sort of, lolThe fact is, that human beings aren't all built the same. You can absolutely love someone to pieces, but your wife/husband or gf/bf, may have a much higher or much lower sex drive than you. It may be completely different. What really turns someone on, may completely turn someone else off. You may have not known about this turn on/off before you got together or each others different sex drives, because you guys were lovey dovey. The honey moon wears off, then you got a wife or a husband that doesn't put out, for what ever reasons. I believe if you don't want your partner to stray, you better be willing to try new things and experiment. Sexuality is a fluid thing. I don't understand the big deal of having your sexual needs met elsewhere. Sex and love have absolutely nothing to do with each other.
I personally do not believe in monogamy. I have seen husbands who's wives have set up the appointment. I've had threesomes with married men, . I am an adult. You are an adult. I do not seek married men out. They find me. In my private life, I will not date anybody in a relationship, because I really don't like drama, ugh. I do everything to avoid it. Plus, I have always been capable of finding my own lovers. I don't need someone else's. I have had lovers cheat on me in the past. Like I said previously what gets me upset is being lied to and being treated like I'm dumb. I refuse to take responsibility for someone else's decisions or actions. I provide a service, they buy.
Its the breakdown of the relationship that happens before he picks up the phone that is the problem. I personally would hate to live in a society that had rigid rules around sex. I know many couples in committed healthy relationships, that are swingers, and have group sex. I also know men that see working girls with the permission of their SO. Who are you to decide that your moral rigidness/righteousness is the way we all should live?
One Night After Watching Who Wants To Be A Millionaire... A man and his wife went to bed and the man was getting very frisky. He asked his wife if she was in the mood. His wife answered, "Not tonight dear, I have a headache." The man replied, "Is that your final answer?" She said "Yes." "OK, then I'd like to phone a friend." he replied.
So your husband would not even bother washing himself for sex and you thought your marriage was fine? Maybe he did not want a good blowjob, just a more intelligent woman.
This might be a real long shot but maybe your husband came to perb because he wanted to be treated differently from a pet. It is crazy, I know, who would want to be treated like an adult?
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