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Why so few girls provide BBBJ?

lustingasians

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I’ve traveled to some cities around the United Sates, like San Francisco, Los Angeles, Phoenix, and Seattle, and it’s my impression that a significantly higher fraction of providers in these cities provide BBBJ than do Vancouver providers. And I’m not talking about ‘VIP’ providers, but those charging in the $300 (US) range.

So my question to both pooners and providers is: (a) why does this difference exist? Why is norm in Vancouver for CBJ? And (b) If there is a health concern, why are almost all of these same girls who won’t do BBBJ happy to listen to French? It’s easier to see if there is a possible transmissible problem on an uncovered penis than in someone’s mouth!

Of course, recommendations for girls in Vancouver who do give BBBJs would also appreciated.
 

DaBoneman

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I don't know. :confused:
 

logsplitter

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A lot of ladies that don't advertise the service give it with discretion YMMV. My experience is in Winnipeg where many customers complain regularly on PERB that the service is not available when in fact it is. Many of the most popular ladies in the business provide the service for the standard fee once they are comfortable. One element of their comfort is often that they are your regular.
 

zennrocks

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did the ...

NDP or Liberals ... screw with that too??

no BBBJ ... grrrrrr

damn gov't cover ups

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Lolita

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I think there is a clear indication that there is better, higher standard of education in Canada than the US. That includes sex education. Though Canadians aren't perfect. Let's compare our North American selves to the Europeans who just happen to have the lowest cases of illiteracy, high math/ science scores, lowest STD transmisions/contractions and have generally happier lives.

The point I'm trying to get at is, that it's been taught that any sexual activity uncovered is particularily risky. Known fact that men rarely get themselves checked out as often as they should, but only do so when developed a symptom, by that time could have possibly exposed whatever they are carrying to any number of people.

Why is "lesbian sex" considered the safest method of sex? This is not a promotion to munch on unprotected box given the opportunity, BUT the vagina hosts an anti-bacterial fluid called lactobacilli that protects the vagina from diseases, the vagina cleans itself not much different from the self-cleaning oven. The penis does not clean itself. There, I said it. There is the reason why so many SPs are open to DATY, and even better if they generally practice safe sex (no bb anything).
 

IceG

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i think that many men here know that bbbj is available with sps (either as a regular or for more $$$), it is just that we use some discretion in discussing it here as it should always and ultimately be a choice of the sp.

it gives me a chuckle to envision some idiot going to a mp in Edmonton and saying to a sp, "but IceG said you would give me a bbbj on Perb".

i try not to discuss these matters publicly out of respect for the sps who are the ones who decide what they are comfortable doing and not doing.

so lusting, it is out there, it is just some sps don't want the negative connotation that comes with it being that they are "unclean" or "unsafe". i can respect a sps right to decide what boundaries apply on a client by client basis. of course some will never do it, but some will and do not wish to be labelled as bbbj for "every" customer. hopefully you can see that as reasonable.
 

logsplitter

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Lolita said:
I think there is a clear indication that there is better, higher standard of education in Canada than the US. That includes sex education. Though Canadians aren't perfect. Let's compare our North American selves to the Europeans who just happen to have the lowest cases of illiteracy, high math/ science scores, lowest STD transmisions/contractions and have generally happier lives.

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Yes but it often has nothing to do with education. In many European countries the industry is regulated and licenced. The ladies go for regular check ups to keep their licences. The poons know that the safest ladies have a current licence.
 

Maury Beniowski

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In a nice wet pussy!
Penises are like the men they are attached to. Some are good looking, and some are coyote ugly. Some women who will put up with an ugly face, may not be so accommodating, and get up close and personal with an ugly prick, unless you really make worth their while in the bling-bling department.

Does that answer your question?
 

Lolita

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Actually, what I was trying to get at was that sex and sex safety is taught at an early age in European schools. Enjoy yourself but safely. Fuck as much as you want, but safely. Fuck whomever you want, but safely. They take and give as much as they can but do it in a realistic approach instead of clouding the issue. Gamble and you just might suffer the consequences.

The US schools, with no help from Dubya, has been teaching more abstinence than actual safe sex. Why I bet many Americans still believe you can douch your way out of an STD or pregnancy. What does that show the rest of us, something is missing from their educational foundation. Let's sugar coat the issue and deal with it when a problem arises from it.

But you are right that the industry in Europe is regulated, but most of their basic sexual knowledge resulted from being taught that very thing in school. I'll eat my shoe if you can prove to me otherwise.
 

futtbucker

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bbbj

thats the problem stacey they are using their head, just the wrong one.

if the chemistry is right ive had the glove sliiped off just before the moment happens and then pearls are given, its all goood, gootta wear a glove though.
 

Shortie

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... and last night, she goes home from the bar with him, unzips and goes down on him without hesitation. I'd be VERY suprised how many bar night stands involve condoms for a blow job.

I'll say, maybe 2 or 3 percent.

What makes it different for an SP???
 

Tyler Durden

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Big difference

The number of people she's going down on. Bar chick maybe 5 different guys a week (generous). Provider 5 guys per day (some 10+).

Real slutty bar chick = 265 dudes/year
Service Provider = ~1300 johns/year

That's the difference.
 
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lustingasians

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Why so few BBBJ providers in Vancouver?

For those interested, I Googled the following link to some information about STD risk for 'French' and 'listening to French', although that's not the terminology used in this site:

http://hivinsite.ucsf.edu/InSite?page=kb-07-02-02


IMHO the actual risks of giving French vs. listening to French are nearly equivalent and are both very low (particularly in the highly educated population of both pooners and providers we have in Vancouver) and that, like many things, many of us (pooners as well as providers) do not know how to quantitate risks in our daily lives. For example, it's still far more dangerous to drive in a car than fly in a commercial airline, but many people are afraid to do fly but not do drive.
 

DaBoneman

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lustingasians said:
For those interested, I Googled the following link to some information about STD risk for 'French' and 'listening to French', although that's not the terminology used in this site:

http://hivinsite.ucsf.edu/InSite?page=kb-07-02-02


IMHO the actual risks of giving French vs. listening to French are nearly equivalent and are both very low (particularly in the highly educated population of both pooners and providers we have in Vancouver) and that, like many things, many of us (pooners as well as providers) do not know how to quantitate risks in our daily lives. For example, it's still far more dangerous to drive in a car than fly in a commercial airline, but many people are afraid to do fly but not do drive.

This subject comes up every month or so and has been beaten like a redheaded stepchild. You seem to be well versed in searching various pooner message boards surprised you didn't search this subject.

BTW lustingasians it is nice to see you post about a subject other than Angelina I was going to suggest that you change your name to lustingangelina.
 

lustingasians

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FYI...I don't beat readheaded stepchildren (or anyone else for that matter!)

This subject may come up frequently, but it seems that there is still a great deal of behavior going on out there based on incomplete information!
 

Lolita

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Actually...

BJ and DATY are two very different things.

There is more risk for the SP giving head than her receiving oral. I've already stated the differences.

-The good SPs are ones who get themselves checked on a regular basis, know who the clients are (to a degree), don't engage in BBBJ, BBFS, CIM. They are still considered good, reputable, safe even if they partake in DATY. Why? You ask, vagina has lactobacilli, fluid with antibacterial, antiseptic properties. The SP knows her body best. And sadly, men are not equipped with that luxury.
-Pooners who are already in a relationship who happen to seek the company of an SP will most likely not stay faithful to the SP. A little herpes here, pass it on unknowingly to another SP there via BBBJ. Are we getting a better understanding of this?
-Though most STDs have very noticable symptoms, many are still transmittable with very few symptoms (flat, flesh coloured lesions indicative to herpes), now you're utterly fucked when you get herpes in your mouth.

Avarice, you should know better.
Lustingasians, check your sources again, HIV/AIDS isn't the only concern, syphilis is on the rise amongst sex trade workers. Gee, I wonder why?
 

lustingasians

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Lolita said:
BJ and DATY are two very different things.

There is more risk for the SP giving head than her receiving oral. I've already stated the differences.

-The good SPs are ones who get themselves checked on a regular basis, know who the clients are (to a degree), don't engage in BBBJ, BBFS, CIM. They are still considered good, reputable, safe even if they partake in DATY. Why? You ask, vagina has lactobacilli, fluid with antibacterial, antiseptic properties. The SP knows her body best. And sadly, men are not equipped with that luxury.

Lolita, your own words contradict your conclusion: Yes, the vagina has "lactobacilli, fluid with antibacterial, antiseptic properties." And then you go on to indicate the dangers of Herpes. Well, I'm sorry to tell you that those antibacterial and/or antiseptic properties don't do squat against Herpes.
 

therealrex

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Isn't Vancouver the Heroin addict capitol of North America? I think thats the last place I'd want to get a bbbj.
 

Lolita

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Lusting,

Please read my post carefully. Reread the part about "good SPs". Any SP worth their weight will get themselves broad spectrum STD tested on a regular basis. The SP would have to be a complete idiot not to care for themselves and the people they touch, considering the business they were in.

On the other hand, I did say in a previous post not to do so if you were uncomfortable, a piece or plastic wrap or cut up condom or dental dam will ease your worries. Safe sex can be damn sexy!

No contradictions here. Besides, you'd be pretty surprised what lactobacilli can kill (and how would you know, do you have any?).
 
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