Some googling reveals that, with the new law of 2014, that it is illegal to see an escort for the buyer. I am wondering what the penalty might be for this? Will the penalty show up in a background check that companies sometimes do when hiring?
What are the possible consequences of seeing an escort in Canada?
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Here in the Victoria and Vancouver area we may live in a little different situation then other cities . They don't enforce the law unless there are complaints.
But there are cases of arrest in other cities ,and sting operstion .
I don't know what the penalties are for a conviction. But I think it is a federal charge so it would show as a conviction for soliciting prostitution.
These charges usually happen on the prairies or Ontario.
But there are cases of arrest in other cities ,and sting operstion .
I don't know what the penalties are for a conviction. But I think it is a federal charge so it would show as a conviction for soliciting prostitution.
These charges usually happen on the prairies or Ontario.
Of course one consequence could be that your SO finds out that you are enjoying sexual activities with a SP.
In that case, you better hope that she doesn't turn into a Lorena Bobbitt and chop off your naughty wiener.
In that case, you better hope that she doesn't turn into a Lorena Bobbitt and chop off your naughty wiener.
True but we all have to remember: kinder, gentler perb to the newbies... as trying as that can be at times
Edit to add:
I feel like I've become pretty good at searching the forum over the years and this was not easy for me to find. The old mega C-36 thread from the archive:
https://perb.cc/vbulletin/archive/index.php/t-206798.html - if you scroll to near the bottom of the first page, I posted a rather lengthy interpretation of the part of the law regarding possible penalties for those who might be convicted of an offence under the law. You'll see that my interpretation was not agreed with by others but you can read the law yourself in that same post and draw your own conclusions.
For the entire thread on the forum, here is a link (but be warned, it was a long thread and I don't know how much of it is still relevant since it included a LOT of speculation while we all waited for the law to come into effect).
https://perb.cc/vbulletin/showthread.php?206798-C36-Merged-thread-everything-goes-here
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Here is a question on topic. In Winnipeg if you get caught picking up a street girl they impound your car and quite often seize and auction it. Wondering if you do an incall to your house and get caught if the police also have the right to seize and auction your house? They do this to drug dealers here often.
Houses used as meth labs are usually unsafe to inhabit. They need professional decontamination due to the chemicals.
Grow ops are case by case. Big ones use a lot of chemicals especially highly toxic pesticides. There is mould because of humidity. There may be hazardous wiring, some guys steal power right from the pole if the have a lot of 1000 Watt lights.
There was a grow busted near me with hundreds of plants about five years ago. Cops took all the equipment, owners kept house. They were not gang associates though.
Some gangs rent houses to use and destroy them.
I have never heard of a house being seized over incall or streetwalkers.
Not sure if the notorious one by Advance was seized? That was a big time bawdy house with several workers.
If it is one guy bringing a girl home I cannot see a judge imposing forfeiture.
The one by Advance wasn't seized, it was a rental. They continued to live there for some time after the events.
There are many laws in Canada that should be changed.
If illegally hunting, seizure of car/truck and rifles. Game Wardens have the right to do this.
Customs Agents have the right to search your car, take it apart and don't have to put it back together for you. Whether they find something or not.
But the problem is many of your rights have been legislated away in order to support or uphold government rights or stuff related to public safety. eg. Breath tests at road blocks, you do not have the right to refuse to blow.
The law in 2014 was forced on the public by the supreme court of Canada; and the conservative government (Harper) at the time said "fuck you" and hence made prostitution illegal for the taker not the giver, where before it was legal in all sense of the law.
For some religious bullshit reason, the pro conservative faction decided to impose its will on the Canadian people, using the European Nordic model where the users of the sex workers was at fault. Very convoluted logic indeed. The conservative made it more difficult for escorts/sex workers to advertise themselves (so that minors could not see their ads in public).
If you get charged with that 2014 existing law, You can take it all the way to the supreme court. Chances you will win. Another site CERB had alot of discussion on this before and a little after the law. I'd be arguing how can only 1 side of a transaction be illegal and it impinges on my freedom of choice, and don't forget the government does tax the amount a escort makes... see the hypocrisy....
If illegally hunting, seizure of car/truck and rifles. Game Wardens have the right to do this.
Customs Agents have the right to search your car, take it apart and don't have to put it back together for you. Whether they find something or not.
But the problem is many of your rights have been legislated away in order to support or uphold government rights or stuff related to public safety. eg. Breath tests at road blocks, you do not have the right to refuse to blow.
The law in 2014 was forced on the public by the supreme court of Canada; and the conservative government (Harper) at the time said "fuck you" and hence made prostitution illegal for the taker not the giver, where before it was legal in all sense of the law.
For some religious bullshit reason, the pro conservative faction decided to impose its will on the Canadian people, using the European Nordic model where the users of the sex workers was at fault. Very convoluted logic indeed. The conservative made it more difficult for escorts/sex workers to advertise themselves (so that minors could not see their ads in public).
If you get charged with that 2014 existing law, You can take it all the way to the supreme court. Chances you will win. Another site CERB had alot of discussion on this before and a little after the law. I'd be arguing how can only 1 side of a transaction be illegal and it impinges on my freedom of choice, and don't forget the government does tax the amount a escort makes... see the hypocrisy....
Me thinks legal Escorts are more consequencial than illegal Escorts.
VanCity is Utopia *
( Legal = regulated, taxed, and recorded )
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When I saw the thread title "What are the consequences . . . "
My immediate thought was " you might just have a fucking good time "
OP, unless you are chasing SP who may be minors or traffficed be it via gangs or from Asia; it would be rare for RCMP to get involved and even less so by VPD. The trick is to research, ask questions and try to see Indy's and reputable agencies. Going into a situation where they may be pimped out is where there could be problems.
My immediate thought was " you might just have a fucking good time "
OP, unless you are chasing SP who may be minors or traffficed be it via gangs or from Asia; it would be rare for RCMP to get involved and even less so by VPD. The trick is to research, ask questions and try to see Indy's and reputable agencies. Going into a situation where they may be pimped out is where there could be problems.
No Law has ever been forced on the people of Canada by the Supreme Court of Canada
The Supreme Court of Canada struck down the old communication, bawdy house and living off the avails laws. The court did not create any new laws to replace those they struck down. What the court did do is say that the old laws would remain in force for 1 year so that the government, IF IT WANTED TO, could enact new laws. THERE WAS NO REQUIREMENT THAT THE GOVERNMENT DO ANY SUCH THING.
What the bastard Conservative government did was an end run around the court decision. For the first time in Canada they made both paying for AND RECEIVING PAYMENT FOR sexual services a criminal act. They gave service providers immunity from prosecution and lied that they weren't targeting workers but receiving payment remains a criminal act. This is a problem because it makes sex workers vulnerable to arrest, investigation and civil forfeiture of any proprty they bought using money from sex work.
The Conservatives also replaced the old communication law with a limited new communication law for sex workers, a vague but highly threatening advertising law and an absolute criminal prohibition against any communication by clients for the purpose of obtaining sexual services for consideration.
The old bawdy house law was replaced with an absolute criminal prohibition against any commercial business that provides sexual services.
We are fortunate that most police departments have mostly chosen not to enforce these abusive laws that the Conservatives created. If we ever get another Conservative government things could get much worse.
I agree with most of what 80Watts says but with right wing people complaining about an activist court when their bad laws are struck down for being illegal, I want to challenge the comment that "The law in 2014 was forced on the public by the supreme court of Canada". That is not what happened.
The Supreme Court of Canada struck down the old communication, bawdy house and living off the avails laws. The court did not create any new laws to replace those they struck down. What the court did do is say that the old laws would remain in force for 1 year so that the government, IF IT WANTED TO, could enact new laws. THERE WAS NO REQUIREMENT THAT THE GOVERNMENT DO ANY SUCH THING.
What the bastard Conservative government did was an end run around the court decision. For the first time in Canada they made both paying for AND RECEIVING PAYMENT FOR sexual services a criminal act. They gave service providers immunity from prosecution and lied that they weren't targeting workers but receiving payment remains a criminal act. This is a problem because it makes sex workers vulnerable to arrest, investigation and civil forfeiture of any proprty they bought using money from sex work.
The Conservatives also replaced the old communication law with a limited new communication law for sex workers, a vague but highly threatening advertising law and an absolute criminal prohibition against any communication by clients for the purpose of obtaining sexual services for consideration.
The old bawdy house law was replaced with an absolute criminal prohibition against any commercial business that provides sexual services.
We are fortunate that most police departments have mostly chosen not to enforce these abusive laws that the Conservatives created. If we ever get another Conservative government things could get much worse.
It seems there have been a number of stings against the clients of street sex workers across Canada east of BC, (the remote backward parts of Canada) with the last one in the Maritimes over the last few months. These were police women dressing up as workers and standing on the corner while their police mates watched and collected overtime. They were generally a response to people and businesses complaining that they didn't like to see women working on the street. The police claim to be helping the workers which is of course a complete and transparent lie.
There have also been a few charges for advertising by an agency that had an underage worker and one agency has been charged simply for doing business with the charter challenge case starting next spring.
There have also been a few charges for advertising by an agency that had an underage worker and one agency has been charged simply for doing business with the charter challenge case starting next spring.
