US Judges Fuck Up Gun Control

[Fudd]

"The U.S. Supreme Court's 5-4 decision overturning Washington, D.C.'s handgun ban"

http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1818325,00.html

What the Fuck is wrong with these right wing nut job judges. How can they rule that people can have hand guns. In fact what ligitimate purpose is there for any person to have a gun. Guns are only good for one thing and that is to kill people.

As for the US Constitution, they have missinterpreted it completely. It clearly states, "a well regulated Militia," meaning only people in the military can have guns not private citizens.

This ruling only means one thing for the US and that is more murders through out the country. I for one am glad I live in Canada where atleast we have some gun control.

 

[SilkyJohnson]

are u fucking stupid?

britain bans handguns now look at crime rate. up 4 times

if u are a theif and ur gonna steal something ur probably going to want to steal off an un-armed person. Now if everyones armed i guess crminals are out of luck. Or u could call 911 and wait 2-3 minutes for the cops while u have a knife in your face. Gun bans = high crime. look at the stats, i wont even post any links YOU do the research.

HOWEVER they changed the law a bit. You have the right to own guns while the govt has the right to restrict that individuals rights, not everyones all at once. But then again thats pretty much the same thing.

I'm pretty sure if there were some SANE kids w/ guns at Columbine they would have had to wait 4 hrs b4 the Feds arrived. While the Police sat in the parking lot armed ready to go but, not until the Feds get there, 4 hrs.......
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=columbine+police+wait

and the guy who climbed the Texas clock tower. What happened? citizens WENT HOME GOT THERE GUNS CAME BACK AND LET THE GUY HAVE IT. Giving supressive fire to hold him back allowing Police and citizens to enter the tower. Then it was a citizen who killed the sniper. Guns dont kill ppl, ppl kill ppl.

 

[sonoman]

are u fucking stupid?

if u are a theif and ur gonna steal something ur probably going to want to steal off an un-armed person. Now if everyones armed i guess crminals are out of luck.

He's not stupid, but you must be. Simply possessing a handgun, even without 'intent' to use it, increases the risk of fatality resulting from gun use; if everyone is armed, the probability of handgun fatalities increases, not decreases, moron.

Where in hell are you getting your logic from?

 

[SilkyJohnson]

i get my info from the news. sorry u have a problem with accepting FACTS
http://www.reason.com/news/show/28582.html

http://www.nationalreview.com/comment/lott200409290839.asp


http://video.google.com/videoplay?d...er+crime+rate&ei=GABnSOeDJoKIqgP7yuSmAw&hl=en

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j_YTM_eAWnQ

http://www.intellectualconservative.com/article3224.html

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/opinion/main.jhtml?xml=/opinion/2003/01/05/do0502.xml


now ur turn, send me some facts or accept the truth and eat it.

 

[deberry]

"The U.S. Supreme Court's 5-4 decision overturning Washington, D.C.'s handgun ban"

http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1818325,00.html

What the Fuck is wrong with these right wing nut job judges. How can they rule that people can have hand guns. In fact what ligitimate purpose is there for any person to have a gun. Guns are only good for one thing and that is to kill people.

As for the US Constitution, they have missinterpreted it completely. It clearly states, "a well regulated Militia," meaning only people in the military can have guns not private citizens.

This ruling only means one thing for the US and that is more murders through out the country. I for one am glad I live in Canada where atleast we have some gun control.

Very dimwitted of you.

Gun control is enslavement by the Government. You must look to your corrupt government for protection if there are no guns. In the US the 2nd Amendment was put there by the founding fathers to keep control of the Government. You don't know about Hitler, he too was for gun control and look what happened.

EVERYONE should have guns and crime would be nil.

 

[turquine]

Oh for fuck's sake. Will everyone who doesn't know fuck all about this subject please just shut the fuck up?!

Allowing guns in the U.S. makes sense. Their culture has its roots in pioneering where guns were tools, and useful ones at that. They also had the Wild West, and from there much of their gun culture evolved. Removing the right for a U.S. citizen to have guns is removing their ability to protect themselves from criminals who can ALWAYS get guns.

It doesn't make sense in Canada, because Canadian culture is resistant to gun ownership in the cities, and many criminals see no need to acquire firearms for their crimes. But try going into the BC Interior, and you'll see lots of families owning a rifle or shotgun, often several.

And "militia" doesn't refer to the military you uneducated fucktard. The militia refers to average citizens, so that they can resist an unjust government.

And the twit who is whining about logic needs to take a probability course. Yes, allowing guns in a society increases the chance of a gun fatality, but the increase in the case of the U.S. is negligible. Did you know that backyard swimming pools are 11 (ELEVEN!) tims more likely to kill a child than a gun in the home? Obviously you didn't.

Did you also know that there is, by LAW, a rifle in every Swiss household? All males in Switzerland serve in the Reserves. You don't hear anything about rampant gun violence there.

And finally, where the hell did you get this from: "EVERYONE should have guns and crime would be nil." What an unbelievable load of bullshit. Everyone was allowed to have guns in the American Wild West. Do you believe no thefts, no murders, and no rapes occured? Are you really that fucking stupid?

Gun control is a complex, nuanced, multi-faceted issue. All of you need to go educate yourself on it before you spout off and remove any doubt that you're a grass-fed idiot.

 

[deberry]

Oh for fuck's sake. Will everyone who doesn't know fuck all about this subject please just shut the fuck up?!

Allowing guns in the U.S. makes sense. Their culture has its roots in pioneering where guns were tools, and useful ones at that. They also had the Wild West, and from there much of their gun culture evolved. Removing the right for a U.S. citizen to have guns is removing their ability to protect themselves from criminals who can ALWAYS get guns.

It doesn't make sense in Canada, because Canadian culture is resistant to gun ownership in the cities, and many criminals see no need to acquire firearms for their crimes. But try going into the BC Interior, and you'll see lots of families owning a rifle or shotgun, often several.

And "militia" doesn't refer to the military you uneducated fucktard. The militia refers to average citizens, so that they can resist an unjust government.

And the twit who is whining about logic needs to take a probability course. Yes, allowing guns in a society increases the chance of a gun fatality, but the increase in the case of the U.S. is negligible. Did you know that backyard swimming pools are 11 (ELEVEN!) tims more likely to kill a child than a gun in the home? Obviously you didn't.

Did you also know that there is, by LAW, a rifle in every Swiss household? All males in Switzerland serve in the Reserves. You don't hear anything about rampant gun violence there.

And finally, where the hell did you get this from: "EVERYONE should have guns and crime would be nil." What an unbelievable load of bullshit. Everyone was allowed to have guns in the American Wild West. Do you believe no thefts, no murders, and no rapes occured? Are you really that fucking stupid?

Gun control is a complex, nuanced, multi-faceted issue. All of you need to go educate yourself on it before you spout off and remove any doubt that you're a grass-fed idiot.

Well you said it yourself, in Switzerland every household has a rifle and it should be that way in Canada. Crime would go down to nothing. How many people would risk a break and enter then?

It should be a right to own guns. The only restrictions I would place is on someone who commits a gun crime and that would need to be proven and ruled on by a jury. Also people should be trained and it should be mandatory.

 

[turquine]

Well you said it yourself, in Switzerland every household has a rifle and it should be that way in Canada. Crime would go down to nothing. How many people would risk a break and enter then?

Which part of "bullshit" didn't you understand above?! Switzerland and Canada are very different beasts, and if you don't like that, nobody cares.

Arming the citizenry does NOT reduce crime to nothing. Did you just completely ignore what I wrote about the Wild West? Have you done ANY study of criminology? Sorry, rhetorical question, I know the answer is a big fat fucking NO.

Also people should be trained and it should be mandatory.

If anyone tried to force me to do anything I don't want, they'll get a big kick in the nuts. You want to force EVERYONE, little old ladies, pacifists, buddhist monks, etc., to train in the use of firearms? Just to suit your little pet (and utter horseshit) hypothesis? Good luck and fuck you.

In case it wasn't fucking obvious, I am sick and tired beyond belief at the stupid bullshit arguments on gun control from both sides of the aisle. Most people who argue for or against are so full of horseshit it's shocking. Go read a goddamn book on cultural influence and a few on criminology before you open your mouth. Really.

 

[HankQuinlan]

If it were to become mandatory for me to own a gun and train with it, the first person I would shoot would be the one who came up with that lame-brained idea.

 

[Horse99]

It's better to have one and not need it....

rather than need one and not have it....your choice

 

[island-guy]

Just think, if everyone had to have a gun...

That would include dimwits like Fudd, who has been arrested for assaulting a police officer, don't forget...

Do you really want to arm that dufus?

 

[87112]

I've been mugged twice in Seattle with handguns by the brothers. If I had the money I would leave the USA kind of soon. Its a fast, mean, nasty, violent culture down here. Its not as great as you think.

 

[SilkyJohnson]

obviously if u have a gun and use it to commit a crime it will be taken away. seriously y are some of u so scared of guns? i bet u never even held, let alone fire a gun.......

 

[HeMadeMeDoIt]

The Supreme court only enforces the constitioun/charter according to what they say. DC was in breach of the second amdement. There was no part of the 2nd that said "we shall not allow District of Columbians" to not have the right to bear arms.

Once you determine which states have the right to practice their constitutional rights and those that local eforcement establishes others drop me an email.

When you do, I kindly ask you to let me know which part of the Charter that doesn't apply to Albertans

 

[oppai]

There appears to be a lot of mis-interpretation of statistics and "facts" going around here. Gun violence in DC didn't go up because hand guns were banned, it went up because the poverty level is dropping and increasing in size as the the disparity between the wealthy and the poor. Washington is a FUCKED up State with issues far beyond gun control that determine the crime statistics. If you have one city or one state that has gun control but others do not, obviously criminals are going to end up with guns while citizens do not.

Someone mentioned that if you have a gun you are more likely to be a victim of gun violence. This is a statistically PROVEN fact that was a University study NOT a study by right or left wing groups for or against guns.

In the UK again the crime increases are a result of an increasing divides in culture, religion and mostly wealth.

I'm not taking sides here as I think there are somewhat valid arguments for both sides, but please understand the statistics and do some better research to see where those statistics come from, who is supporting them and what is FACTUAL or not.

 

[SilkyJohnson]

post your FACTS not your opinion then.....

any news paper articles or research links to post that shows this?

didnt think so

 

[Fudd]

Holly crap!!

Some of you think that guns can be used to stop crime and violence and your calling me stupid???

Do you people have any ideal how many people are killed by guns every year?

Well here are some facts.

Here are gun-related deaths per 100,000 people in the world's 36 richest countries in 1994: United States 14.24; Brazil 12.95; Mexico 12.69; Estonia 12.26; Argentina 8.93; Northern Ireland 6.63; Finland 6.46; Switzerland 5.31; France 5.15; Canada 4.31; Norway 3.82; Austria 3.70; Portugal 3.20; Israel 2.91; Belgium 2.90; Australia 2.65; Slovenia 2.60; Italy 2.44; New Zealand 2.38; Denmark 2.09; Sweden 1.92; Kuwait 1.84; Greece 1.29; Germany 1.24; Hungary 1.11; Republic of Ireland 0.97; Spain 0.78; Netherlands 0.70; Scotland 0.54; England and Wales 0.41; Taiwan 0.37; Singapore 0.21; Mauritius 0.19; Hong Kong 0.14; South Korea 0.12; Japan 0.05.

In the US were people have very easy access to guns they also have the highest gun related deaths of all these countries

Too many people have died needless deaths in this country alone. We own it to those victims and there families to do away with all guns or at least impose very strict regulations on there use.

 

[87112]

United States 14.24

Man, its fucked down here.

 

[Fudd]

United States 14.24

Man, its fucked down here.

If you noticed that number exceeds the "Israel 2.91", a practical war zone.

 

[SilkyJohnson]

dont u airheads get it! THIS IS TO DISARM THE PUBLIC SO THEY CANT DEFEND THEMSELVES!!!

Its a Nazi tactic being implemented by Nazis running the USA, go read operation paperclip on wikipedia for a start.

making guns illegal just puts them into the hands of criminals. who would own a firearm if its illegal? someone kicks your door in while your asleep what u do? dial 9-11 and wait 4 minutes or grab your shotgun and pump it. that sound alone is a detourant, then let him have it if necessary.

and y the fuck do u think the the founding fatehrs who wrote the constitution after fleeing from opressive British rule, said "shall not be infringed" just incase govt gains a little to much control and starts to restrict freedoms until your back licking the Royal families boots. Google how many presidents are related to the Queen of England, try all but 2-3 of them. They spent how many years spilled how much blood to remove the Brits from there country only to have all ther presidents to be related to her? Not to mention they are ALL FREEMASONS and she is the GRAND PATRONESS OF FREEMASONRY. Please research what i'm saying before you call it a conspiracy.

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