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LonelyGhost

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so that dumb fucker Mel Cooper ruins a nice animal refuge, dumps lots of
people out of work, demands $3 million in unnecessary up-grades, puts a
fucking paper-mache map of BC on the floor and asks $26 bucks for people
to see it and in a grand total of 3 months manages to go bankrupt.

owes the Royal Bank $5.5 million (gonna love them new service charges
to customers to cover this fiasco) among 226 other idiots who lent him money.

can't wait for the Olympics!

typical brain-dead business people in this province should drive us
all to the brink of ruin in no time ...

:rolleyes:
 

Lesbian Hunter

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LonelyGhost said:
so that dumb fucker Mel Cooper ruins a nice animal refuge, dumps lots of
people out of work, demands $3 million in unnecessary up-grades, puts a
fucking paper-mache map of BC on the floor and asks $26 bucks for people
to see it and in a grand total of 3 months manages to go bankrupt.

owes the Royal Bank $5.5 million (gonna love them new service charges
to customers to cover this fiasco) among 226 other idiots who lent him money.

can't wait for the Olympics!

typical brain-dead business people in this province should drive us
all to the brink of ruin in no time ...

:rolleyes:
Mel Cooper is a successful businessman and a millionaire. Are you?
 

fun-time-guy

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No offense to Mel as he has done alot in this community, but LG's points cannot be argued. When they made this announcement they cited dramatically low tourist numbers which is such a joke. That statement prompted the head of Tourism Victoria to counter that there was even a slight increase in hotel stays, the key tourism indicator, over the prior year.

"If you build it they will come" may work in the movies but not in business. The BC Experience was doomed to failure because, in the end, who wants to go? Not me.
 

LonelyGhost

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Lesbian Hunter said:
Mel Cooper is a successful businessman and a millionaire. Are you?
Are you?

and you call the Crystal Garden fiasco a success?

you must be in charge of 2010 ...
 

rickoshadows

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I used to go to the Crystal Gardens a couple of times a year, just to sit in a warm place and watch the colorful birds, I went even more often when my kids were small. But now, why would I want to stand around and look at televisions? I do that too much at work, and home for that matter. I don't know who did the market research and business planning for the BC Experience concept, but the fucker bullocked this one up. He/she completely missed the target and came up with an irrelevant, expensive waste of space. It also reflects poorly, but perhaps accurately on the competency of the Capitol Commision.
 

LonelyGhost

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rickoshadows said:
I used to go to the Crystal Gardens a couple of times a year, just to sit in a warm place and watch the colorful birds,
when i was still living in Vic, I did the same thing ... and took EVERY out of town
visitor I ever had to the Crystal Gardens at least once while they were there ...

had relatives from Europe over and took them the the CG and then to Van
and to the Queen Elizabeth Park and they said the Crystal was way better.

the BC Experience is the stupidest thing i have ever seen in any situation, ever.
 

JustAGuy

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Lesbian Hunter said:
Mel Cooper is a successful businessman and a millionaire. Are you?
I could be a millionaire if I could find a bank with management dumb enough to let me stiff them for $5.5 million. Actually, I'd be a millionaire five and a half times over, wouldn't I? And I should think that would definitely earn me the title "successful businessman".
 

LonelyGhost

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nice article in the Province today about this 'fisaco' ... turns out
there is something like $9.5 million owed and the 'taxpayer' may
be on the hook for a significant portion of that (turns out we
were 'required' to cough up $3 million plus so the 'experience'
would have a new roof!) ...

what happened to all that Liberal Bullshit from Campbell about how
the economy was gonna boom and how government was finally
going to get out of business and its all just another version of
fucking the taxpayer so some asshole can get rich.

nice.
 

ghost4

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The same is happening with Storyum in Gastown.
Who is the brain child behind these two ventures that expect to
survive solely on tourism income. In order to get the return visit
base from the hometown market you have to charge a much lower
price. I would rather have 100 people paying $5 in my venue than
25 paying $20.
 

LonelyGhost

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ghost4 said:
The same is happening with Storyum in Gastown.
Who is the brain child behind these two ventures that expect to
survive solely on tourism income. In order to get the return visit
base from the hometown market you have to charge a much lower
price. I would rather have 100 people paying $5 in my venue than
25 paying $20.
turns out BC Exp was only charging $15 but even that is steep
for Victoria ... and to see a paper mache map on the floor ...

:rolleyes:
 

Pantsnake

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Lesbian Hunter said:
Mel Cooper is a successful businessman and a millionaire. Are you?
I'm not familiar with what you guys are talking about but we see the same shit out here in Winnipeg.
Did you ever notice how these "successful" business people are always using (and risking) other people's money for their little projects. It's one thing if they decide to do these things on their own dime but it always seems when they fail, everyone else, including Joe Taxpayer, is left holding the bag while they drive off on their Lexus.
Just my 2 cents.
 

LonelyGhost

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Pantsnake said:
I'm not familiar with what you guys are talking about but we see the same shit out here in Winnipeg.
This is part of the story ... the other part is that the Crystal Gardens used
to be a great 'garden' and conservatory with birds and other rare animals
and really a nice place to visit ...

BC Experience in financial trouble

Wed Sep 20, 2:50 PM

VANCOUVER (CBC) - Victoria's newest tourist attraction, the controversial BC Experience, filed for creditor protection Tuesday, just three months after opening in the city's historic Crystal Garden.

The private attraction, which offers interactive programs highlighting the province's natural history and personalities, was hit hard by the soft tourist market this summer, says the company's executive director, John Thomson.

However, he won't say how low the visitor numbers were. There had been projections that BC Experience would attract 360,000 visitors a year.

The business owes $2.5 million to 180 unsecured creditors, and owes the Royal Bank, a secured creditor, $5.5 million. It has 10 days to come up with a new financial proposal.

Thomson says he believes BC Experience can still be a viable operation and that it will be business as usual at the site until further notice.

Critics fought development

The high-tech tourist attraction had been heralded at its grand opening by Premier Gordon Campbell as being good for the city and the province.

However, it had also provoked a bitter battle with a group of citizens opposed to the eviction of a rare plant and animal conservatory that had occupied the Crystal Garden since 1980.

Friends of Crystal Garden spokeswoman Susan Creviston is not surprised by the company's financial problems, saying its visitor projections were unrealistic.

She blames the Provincial Capital Commission, which owns the Crystal Garden building, for a lack of due diligence.

"It really is a testament to political interference and really arrogance that a group of appointed people knew better than the public."

Creviston is calling for the resignation of commission chair Bill Welburn. He was not available for comment, but Ray Park, the PCC's executive director, defends his organization's actions.

"We've renovated the building and received good value for that, so that part of it, I think, is money well spent."

The provincial government and the commission spent more than $3 million to prepare the Crystal Garden for BC Experience.
 

Horse99

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If the banks won't loan you the money....that should be big clue #1 that your business plan sucks and is doomed to failure.....
 
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