To boil or not to boil: that is the question.

Jodie

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So, it's been about a week since the boil water advisory was issued. The food service industry seems to have adjusted quite well, and the initial panic and price gouging for bottled water has subsided. The water itself is looking more or less normal, though we're told the turbidity in the Seymour Reservoir is as still about three times the acceptable level. There have been no reports of E. Coli or any other nasty bacteria in our drinking water other than a sample at UBC that was taken beside a composting facility and is believed to be a false positive.

Personally, I think the urgency of the situation is being exaggerated, and have decided to revert to using our municipal water straight from the tap. Anyone else gone that route, or am I just crazy?
 

LonelyGhost

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if your immune system is okay and your tummy doesn't get upset go for it ...

but i would just continue drinking bottled water until the situation clears.

locally our water has been 'cleared' but when i made coffee with it,
it tasted like old sneakers ... bleach!

back to bottled stuff.
 

Marvin

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Jodie said:
and have decided to revert to using our municipal water straight from the tap. Anyone else gone that route, or am I just crazy?
I've gone back to washing dishes and brushing my teeth using tap water but I still drink bottled water.
 

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LonelyGhost said:
locally our water has been 'cleared' but when i made coffee with it, it tasted like old sneakers ... bleach!
stop using the pinner's used panties for a filter :rolleyes:
 

Marvin

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sexxxygirl said:
i filled my bathtub last night for a bath and it was so dark and brown i decided to shower instead. gross.

fill your own bathtub and see if you want to drink it.;)
I guess it depends on what part of the city you live. My office has brown water still but my home is pretty much back to normal.
 

tianna

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ahh just slam it back

do it quick and u won't taste a thing;) this is nothing in comparison to other countries and people who would die for this water... we dont have to dig for hours in a mud hole to find it!! and it will go back to normal.. it's not going to kill us
 

tianna

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if I was drinking a bundle I'm sure!!! lol

but Im not, I still boil it and I dont take long relaxing bubble baths in the water.. in fact I filled up the tub took a look at the water and took the plug out, and after the water was drained there was left over ick in the tub, but I have brushed teeth, washed vegetables, and all the other little stuff!! this is far from mexico... I survived that;)
 

nube

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tianna said:
but Im not, I still boil it and I dont take long relaxing bubble baths in the water.. in fact I filled up the tub took a look at the water and took the plug out, and after the water was drained there was left over ick in the tub, but I have brushed teeth, washed vegetables, and all the other little stuff!! this is far from mexico... I survived that;)
That's a healthy attitude :) One thing all coffe drinkers may consider is that most coffee makers in resturants DON"t boil water they just heat it. Found that one out when we were on a boil notice. When out for lunch and we ask the waitress if they boiled the water for the coffee. She said "its whatever the coffee maker does" - talk about a liability issue.
 

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jjinvan said:
Ok, here's the issue with the cloudy water and boiling etc.. Don't bother asking me for references, cuz I can't be bothered, look it up yourself :D
dude … i am really not looking to flame you ... but when i see a load of crap like this i just can't let it slide.

i will not ask you for any references because i already know you will not be able to find any.

jjinvan said:
The city of Vancouver kills 'things' that get into the water supply by zapping the water with high intensity UV lights instead of dumping as much chlorine in as most other cities do. They do this because the chlorine is bad for the salmon and the tap water can turn into river water (if it's used to water lawns it can get into the water table, stuff like that). Of course this argument is mostly bunk because being out in the sun and open air makes the chlorine go away (which is why you have to keep adding more to your pool even if no one goes in).

Anywayz, since the killing of the nasties is dependant on hitting the nasties with high intensity UV light (because they don't put enough chlorine to do it) if the water is cloudy then that blocks the UV light and some of the nasties might be 'hiding' in the water and not get zapped. Of course, if there are no nasties in the water in the first place then it's just a little dirt and a little dirt never hurt anyone.
where to start with this …

water treatment is done by the GVRD, which includes the city of vancouver, but the city of vancouver itself does not provide water treatment.

UV disinfection is presently not used by the GVRD.

there are 3 sources of water in the GVRD.

the coquitlam watershed is treated with ozone and provides 20% of the regions water.

the capilano watershed is chlorinated and provides 40% of the regions water.

the seymour watershed is chlorinated and provides 40% of the regions water.

presently there is a new water treatment plant under construction for the seymour and capilano watersheds.

this new facility will treat the water by a combination of: filtering; UV disinfection; and chlorination.

the filtration and UV processes will reduce the amount of chlorine required but will not eliminate it.

this facility is scheduled to go on stream in 2008.
 

luckyj

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Just boil your water to be safe. It still lookskinda icky but just make sure you dont' have any cold sores in your mouth..
 

tianna

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ha ha

Horse99 said:
one word: beer
I tried that one two mornings ago.. at 9am the the bottled water was gone... thanx to roomates (got to love them for that..) (ok not the cute one that u know .. a different roomate that I live with)and that was a rough hour!!! one beer at that hour and I was out till lunch:)
 

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The GVRD and the Coastal Health Authority screwed up in this infrastructure breakdown. The first thing they should have done was to alert the bottle water suppliers that they should beef up production(since most are running on off season inventories). The second thing was that they should have called a press conference behind closed doors and told the media that they were calling a Boil Water "Advisory" not a "Notice" and that those with comprised immune systems, pregnant women, infants and the elderly should take precautions.
What did happen was that a blanket press release went out and the media exxagerated the issue and the hysteria came on like a stampede of wild buffalo.

The irony of it all is that three weeks ago the GVRD was touting that tap water was better than bottled water. Then the crisis hits and then Sam the Sham Sullivan begs the industry to provide free water for the homeless.

The biggest joke on the taxpayers of the GVRD is the new $600million dollar filtration plant(and don't forget the on-going maintainance cost) is being built to treat 94% of the regions household water that goes straight down the drain( less than 6% of the municipal water that comes into the home is actually consumed the rest goes for toilets, laundry, bathing, gardening and domestic cleaning in that order).

What really hit home was how this little infrastructure breakdown blip showed how many people were totally unprepared. We do live in an earthquake zone and this lack of unpreparedness by the general population is a sign that the south coast could a nightmare in case of a catastrophe.
 

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tianna said:
do it quick and u won't taste a thing;) this is nothing in comparison to other countries and people who would die for this water... we dont have to dig for hours in a mud hole to find it!! and it will go back to normal.. it's not going to kill us
cant agree more, i didnt even bother. im still drinking my tap water, no boiling, no nothing. a little browner is fine, its a little more organic, seeing how little vegetable i eat daily, some brown water certainly helps.
 

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rampart said:
The biggest joke on the taxpayers of the GVRD is the new $600million dollar filtration plant(and don't forget the on-going maintainance cost) is being built to treat 94% of the regions household water that goes straight down the drain( less than 6% of the municipal water that comes into the home is actually consumed the rest goes for toilets, laundry, bathing, gardening and domestic cleaning in that order).
Isn't THAT a fact, how about here in the Okanagan...where the water that is treated is being used for IRRIGATION as well???? Ironically its still cheaper then adding the extra infrastructure duel mains for example.- IN THE SHORT TERM BUT there are other solutions however no one wants to discuss them. It is these situations that will eventually make the public more aware...
 

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jjinvan said:
Yes it's the GVRD, sorry that I said the 'city'. Didn't think it really made a huge difference to the issue?
just further demonstration of your penchant for disregarding facts.

jjinvan said:
As for the UV and the explanation of why the water being cloudy is an issue for disinfection, I guess you better call up the GVRD works department and explain to them how you are right and their info is wrong.
better yet why don't you cite the source of your information ... oh yeah i forgot ... you can't.

ok see if you can follow along ...

i'll try one last time to get this point through that obdurate block of wood you euphemistically refer to as your head.

presently the GVRD does not treat water with UV disinfection.

that means the following statement by you regarding the boil water advisory in the GVRD is utter nonsense:

jjinvan said:
Anywayz, since the killing of the nasties is dependant on hitting the nasties with high intensity UV light (because they don't put enough chlorine to do it) if the water is cloudy then that blocks the UV light and some of the nasties might be 'hiding' in the water and not get zapped. Of course, if there are no nasties in the water in the first place then it's just a little dirt and a little dirt never hurt anyone..