SP Rates - A new Twist

sirlickheralot

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Here`s an interesting new twist on a controversial topic. A Toronto SP is trying to create a SP cartel to artificially inflate rates in Toronto.

https://terb.cc/vbulletin/showthread.php?s=&threadid=47855

Coming soon, new review/safe board...

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Ladies, if you`re charging less than $250 an hour, up-yourz! (your rate, that is). As a major North American city, Toronto`s sp rates have plummeted over the last several years. Perhaps some of you ladies have been brainwashed into believing that you have to keep your prices well below the average within the industry in order to attract clients. Consider this, $250/hour was the average rate in Toronto ten years ago when I started in this industry. Now some of you are offering approximately $100 for the hour? Don`t you see that if every sp in this city set her price at a minimum $250 across the board, these "hobbyists" would have no choice but to pay what you`re worth, instead of continuing to drive rates down, while demanding more bang (pun intended) for their buck? Toronto has some of the finest SPs in the industry. Lets work together to keep them here and treat them with the respect they deserve by paying them like the classy ladies they are. Ladies you have the power. You`re in control. If you`re happy marketing yourself at bargain basement prices then keep dropping your rates and continue catering to the clients who don`t believe you`re worth more. Or, you can Up-Yourz and get paid what you`re worth. The choice is yours.
The hobbyists are welcome to post reviews BUT the ladies may post a review, in kind, about the hobbyist if they wish. ABSOLUTELY NO PERSONAL INFORMATION ALLOWED (obviously) and every review has to be done in a tasteful manner -- the hobbyist can only be referred to by his profile name (and yes, we know he can change this often). Ladies, now you can rate these men as they have been rating you for so long: Did he show up on time? Was he a gentleman or a jerk? How was his hygeine? How would you rate his overall appearance? Did he respect your preset price or did he insult you by trying to barter? Did he respect your limits? Did he go the extra mile and maybe bring a bottle of wine, or flowers? Would you see him again? Would you recommend him to other SPs? Did he have a cute butt? ... you get the idea. Most decent, true gentlemen will welcome this kind of review because it will put them on the VIP list for many top notch SPs.This review board will also serve as a "safe board" where sps can post legitimate warnings and complaints about clients.
In an effort to standardize pricing in Toronto, we are offering ladies who want to up their price to a minimum $250/hour and $150/half hour free advertising and the use of a professional photographer at minimum cost, and you remain completely independent. Also, if you need help in any other area of your business we will offer our assistance free of charge.
We reserve the right to limit our membership to SPs who charge minimum $250, and a post stating this is required.
This board is open to both female and male escorts.
If anyone is caught charging less than $250 while taking advantage of our free advertising, you will be promptly banned from the board. If you have any questions feel free to call us any time at 647-899-3713.Providers, get on board and Up-Yourz!
 

hitrack

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250?!?!?!?!? Hell in that case why don't we just start a board for the 500/hr chicks, or the 10,000/week babes might want to get in on the deal.

All I can say is ...what colours the sky in this chicks world?!?!?
 

hitrack

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~Alexandria~ said:
A serial pooner is one who goes from girl to girl to girl...non stop in search of nothing really but a new experience

Fortunately, or unfortunately thats exactly what this hobby is all about. Variety.
 

sirlickheralot

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~Alexandria~ said:
I beg to differ..

That is part of it, there are many fellows who prefer to see ONE lady only.. I can attest to that.

Or there are many fellows who tell you what they think you want to hear. Many guys probably feel uncomfortable when a SP asks if they see many different girls and are inclined to downplay their pooning activities. Especially if they think the truth will lower the level of service they are going to receive.
 

CJ Tylers

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When I was involved in the hobby, I chose to see different sp's. Iw ould occasionally go see one sp repeatedly... but being relatively young and impressionable, I found myself having some feelings of attatchment grow.

Now, it's possible had I continued that I would've gotten even higher levels of service. It's equally possible I would've gotten progressively hurt and feeling more and more empty/shallow.

At the time, i used switching sp's as a method of avoid the truth in the situation...and to prevent myself from growing attatched to any 1 girl (not a good idea).

In the end, it was a few factors combined with the fact I couldn't deny to myself anymore that this activity was actually hurting me emotionally... and I quit.

So it can be both ways... a preference for single, but a need for multiple...
 

sirlickheralot

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~Alexandria~ said:
Toto is right...price goes up, useage goes down.

Precisesly why my rates are on the upper end. Reduce the number of clients, reduce the risks.
~Alexandria~ said:
There was a poll about this some time ago..and perhaps there are more serial pooners on Perb than monopoonogamus, but the fact remains that some men are only interested in seeing one SP.
I agree that as price goes up, useage goes down. I also agree that there are guys who are more comfortable seeing one SP. I don't agree that having higher prices means that you are going to attract a lower percentage of serial 'safer' pooners. There are plenty of serial pooners with deep pockets. Then there are plently of lower cost $150/hr etc SPs with lots of loyal regular clientele.

However I guess from a law of averages perspective charging a higher rate would reduce risk. If you see half as many clients then you would be half as likely to encounter someone with an STD or someone violent.
 

Ophelia Black

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Strangely enough, I was wastching the Discovery Channel the other day, and they were discussing monogamous versus non-exclusive mating behaviour in animals, specifically small mammals.

There was this one small rodent-looking mammal who was observed in the wild (India, I believe) apparently displaying behaviour many of us may find familiar - the males would bring many different females small items of food in exchange for mating privileges. Occasionally one of the males would form a pair-bond with a female and they'd forage for food and raise their young together.

And last they studied one male who exclusively brought food items to one unattached female in the habit of receiving such items, although a pair-bond was never formed, nor young produced.

They actually coined a new scientific term to describe this behaviour; mongoosemonopoonogamous.
 

Lolita

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I would agree with the "knight". There are plenty of "deep pockets" on the consumer side of the business. Deep pockets doesn't guarantee safety. I had a guy offer me an extra $1250 US
for a bbbj with my session in which he already paid $300 US/hr for." Uh, no thanks. How do I know you don't have a raging case of herpes?", asks the offended SP.

" But I'm married.", says attractive gentleman

" Yeah, and something tells me I'm not the ONLY SP you've seen and offered that kind of cheese. Better a clean girl than a rich one." says the smart SP


When it comes to numbers I think we should continue to lie. I don't think people are really comfortable with numbers that are in the double and triple digits, unless the partner is into that sort of thing. But you should be completely honest and upfront about your health.
 

mbhkey

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I have a limit for almost every purchase. I will not pay more than 60k for a vehicle for instance. I never buy stock for more than 50k in one company.

So, since I am not addicted to SP’s I will simply stop pooning.

High rates do not protect you at all. The high rollers can afford to pay girls more for unprotected sex. They can also travel to other countries and have unprotected sex. Money does not make a man safer. What stops the rich guy from having sex with 10 girls a week?
 

williewheeler

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high rates and rich guys...

High rates do not protect you at all. The high rollers can afford to pay girls more for unprotected sex. They can also travel to other countries and have unprotected sex. Money does not make a man safer. What stops the rich guy from having sex with 10 girls a week?
Exactly right! I know 2 or 3 guys that regularly travel to Thailand for a week of absolute debauchery - doing stuff they would never do here, in case it might get known - and then try to see the higher priced / supposedly higher mileage ladies in town. Personally, I make it a point to never see any lady that they have. This of course assumes that what they tell me is true:rolleyes:
 

mbhkey

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Re: high rates and rich guys...

williewheeler said:
Exactly right! I know 2 or 3 guys that regularly travel to Thailand for a week of absolute debauchery - doing stuff they would never do here, in case it might get known - and then try to see the higher priced / supposedly higher mileage ladies in town. Personally, I make it a point to never see any lady that they have. This of course assumes that what they tell me is true:rolleyes:

Alex did you not read this post?
 

Makhno

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