SESTA/FOSTA's implications for how Internet works

[thodisipagal]

https://www.vox.com/culture/2018/4/13/17172762/fosta-sesta-backpage-230-internet-freedom

The twin FOSTA/SESTA bills, now passed into law in the US, pokes a huge hole in the long standing "safe harbor" provision of Communications Decency Act Section 230. Section 230 provided Internet Service Providers protection from content-related liability. They were protected as carrier and were not considered as publisher.

Not any longer, under the new controversial law.

This changes how the Internet works and may not stand Constitutional test of the First Amendment.

We shall see.

 

[80watts]

The beginning of the end of American Free Speech. In the run to catch the criminals, the government has written laws that overstep their own constitution. What no thunderous applause as in Star Wars, Senator Amadela's comment as Senator Palpatine is given unlimited control... making way for the Emperor....

Who will now watch the watchers, and make sure they don't overstep their bounds... doesn't matter, because you wouldn't be told anyway.....

Alot of the websites owners have given up before the fight in court over these new laws.

Information on the internet will be tough to get, because it will be limited through US servers (not just escort adverstizing). If you like golf, websites could hold back golf scores, unless you are paying the premium price for access.

Its all about eliminating criminal activity (but I doubt that will happen) and making money for the people who pay for political campaigns...

Hey you never know; maybe all the US escorts will come to Canada and men wanting to see them will become tourists in Canada. Spending their money here instead of in the States...

We should be advertising -- Come to Canada.... Northern Canadian Brothels at the 49th parallel.... New Construction of posh hotels at the border crossing...

 

[westwoody]

Ending net neutrality already doomed the Internet.
Cloud Act will do a lot of damage too.

The US used to disparage other countries for blocking the Internet like China and Iran. Now the USA is joining them.

Meanwhile, every single member of this board should tell their MP not to censor the net, and to maintain net neutrality.
There are lots of media lobbyists right now in Ottawa who want to take your Internet away or charge many times what you pay now.

Do it!

 

[thodisipagal]

America needs their own Terri-Jean Bedford, Amy Lebovitch and Valerie Scott who will file a constitutional challenge, like those brave ladies did in Canada in Harper years against Canada's prostitution laws. SCC struck down the law on the grounds it violated Charter rights that guarantees security of the person because the law created unsafe environment for women who choose this profession.

What did Harper's genius justice minister Peter McKay do? He hastily put together a law to meet SCC deadline to replace the Constitutionally invalid law with a new one within 365 days, that basically said: she can sell apples if she wants but he can't buy them. That was the so called Nordic model. So what the heck happens to the apples?

Guess what, that law, which I'll call Harper-McKay Stupidity Law, has been dealt a fresh new Constitutional challenge in a London, Ontario court.
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/london/london-ontario-bill-c-36-prostitution-laws-1.4520736

Pivot Legal Society was taking steps to put up their own fresh new successful Bedford-type challenge because the progressive government of Trudeau dragged its feet in taking down Harper-McKay Stupidity Law.
http://nationalpost.com/opinion/joh...rostitution-law-may-lead-to-charter-challenge

Remember not all women who are in this oldest profession are trafficked. There are those who enter this profession because they want to make money, just like a businessman starts a business because he wants to make money.

 

[80watts]

The Us already have their own laws against trafficking. Why did they need another one. Put amendments into the existing laws. Backpage was going down under the existing laws, but the new ones have really scared off websites from any advertisement of anything that might be related to sex or prostitution in the US
But it seems that like the Harper-McKay Stupidity Law; politicians will put their own agenda into things because their beliefs confirms that they are right to do this. Its good that this law is being challenged in court, but I would like to see jail time for Harper and his Parliment, because they did not do what the Supreme Court asked them to do, which was come up with a law that made SW safer. What they did was make one half of a deal/business/transaction illegal. How does that make sense?

For the Mathematicians out there: 1 = 1 not 1 = -1

For the English Majors: legal = legal not legal = illegal

Part of this illegal for the johns is made SW less safer. On Backpage there was a increase in falsified ads. Some might of been bait and switch, but it seems a good number were rip-off situations where the john shows up and people are waiting to jump him, the johns can't go to police.

Also screening for new clients, many SW depend on other SW to vouch for new clients. Johns don't want a record of their personal info being on the web, when its currently illegal to partake. This makes it harder for SW to screen new clients.

Pls note that anything you put on the web will probably still be there forever. If you think you have a program that protects your image and content, you are fooling yourself. If your content can show up on someones eles's computer screen, the information is printable. Print screen. Paste and cut from Paint. Cut from Paint, paste in Word. Very simple computer skills.