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shockley

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It surprises me that people are shocked by poorboy's comment that he must be prepared for civil unrest in the case of an emergency. HeLLO? Where were you guys all for the Stanley Cup Final? That wasn't even an emergency and look how people acted. The fact of the matter is, when society loses it's structure, for a few hours or a few weeks, there are bound to be people acting like fools and fucking shit up. I'd rather have the means to protect myself!
Yeah right. And if that mob turned on you, your pink gun would save you:rolleyes:.
 

uncleg

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Yes.. a couple hundred disorganized hooligans are gonna band together and raid homes. Please......

..they banded together and raided stores...................
 

poorboyv6

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There is actually a survivalist society and they used to run courses. Basically, it comes down to making the house look vacant and already looted. I dropped out of that years ago, but I expect that there are still people involved.

I came to the realization that it was going to be a matter of luck. If you are in a heavily urban area when civilization goes into the shitter, you are shit out of luck. If you are in a remote rural area, you may be lucky if the nearest highway is miles away or unlucky if the nearest highway passes by your front door.

So, if you live your life expecting the imminent collapse of civilization and always living in a remote rural area, you give up all of the income and richness of life that living in an urban area provides.

I'd rather have the income and richness of life. However, that means that I, like everyone else lives with the potential of something like the Watts riots of the 60s happening.

In a heavily urban area, it will be impossible to hold off a large crowd that is determined that the survivors will get what you had.
A pistol is under $1,000. Not that expensive.
 

uncleg

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Yes they will also share and divide the food and supplies equally!? Actually a few morons here and their banded together and raided stores. 1000's more morons just stood around and watched.
.............once you've been stomped into the ground would it make a difference what they did with what was your food and water ? Actually it was more like a couple hundred people that they are still trying to identify that raided the stores. By the way it's, here and there.
 

poorboyv6

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Yes and someone with a gun during the riots, shooting the rioters, would have made it way way better.
I think Miss James is using the riots as an example of how Canadian society behaves when order breaks down. If there's a riot, the best thing to do is get out of there, not pull a gun. That's not the situation I would be carrying a gun anyway.

I'm talking about a natural disaster, which some people don't believe can happen, but they do and they happen all the time all over the world.
 
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westcoast555

You can kill someone with a sharpened piece of plexiglass.

Time and distance are very important. My purpose for having one is for self defense. I have no reason to go sneaking up on someone. Not sure why you're looking to sneak up on people in the dark.
Why you ask ?

Let me tell you why son.

Ultimately - everything in life boils down to one thing and one thing only...


Sneaking up on people in the dark.

I speak with the wisdom of the ages.
 

poorboyv6

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Guns....hmmm. Why a gun. Is that going to save you is it going to make things better in what ever disaster happens or mobs of people.

My opinion and this is from up close and personal experience. Guns hurt and kill, they kill innocent people. I do not like guns. I would like to try out hunting but I am terrified of guns.

For the people posting here, Have you ever seen someone shot by a gun, have you ever had a gun put to you up in your face or the back of your head. Have you ever seen bikers at war and muliple shootings.
Personal experience been there. Guns kill, guns kill innocent people. If you are panicked and adrenaline kicks in you may act before thinking and that innocent person gets killed.

I think they are silly. LE has guns for a reason and even they do not always use them wisely they have been known to panic and shoot when it wasn't necassary.

That is all. Untill you really see what I have seen....you should think before you purchase.
I got news for you. Guns don't kill people. People kill people. In the situations you are talking about, if the bikers didn't have guns, they'd use knives or bats, etc. They aren't going to say "we can't threaten so and so because we don't have a gun."
 

Cock Throppled

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Fact is any crises from an earthquake, to forst fires, to floods or an ice storm will be temporary and localized.

it's not a movie where all civilization is destroyed - it's a few days, weeks or months in a relatively small area of a large country in a very populated continent.

Central government, provincial government and probably municipal or city government would not disappear.

Law and order from police to military to international troops would restore order fairly quickly.

What fantasy are you expecting - a meterorite from space that will devastate the planet?
 

poorboyv6

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Fact is any crises from an earthquake, to forst fires, to floods or an ice storm will be temporary and localized.

it's not a movie where all civilization is destroyed - it's a few days, weeks or months in a relatively small area of a large country in a very populated continent.

Central government, provincial government and probably municipal or city government would not disappear.

Law and order from police to military to international troops would restore order fairly quickly.

What fantasy are you expecting - a meterorite from space that will devastate the planet?
Obviously you missed the part about my Aunt who lived through the Montreal ice storm and what she experienced. A few days is no problem. A few weeks problems start to arise where opportunists start to steal and loot. I can tell you her perspective about emergency preparedness changed greatly after living through that.

New Orleans didn't work out too well for the Americans, and FEMA was on scene in less than a week.
 

Cock Throppled

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So, you're saying you feel as threatened and helpless as your mother's sister?

If you're that ineffectual maybe you should take a self defense course or eat more nutritious food or maybe move away from other people that scare you. A frightened person owning a handgun is scarier than any perceived threat from a mob.

Oh, and ice storms like the one that hit Quebec strike how often?
 

bcneil

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What fantasy are you expecting - a meterorite from space that will devastate the planet?
I picture more like zombieland. With Silky Johnson travelling across country. Just him, his dog and his GUN.
In search of the remaining twinkies
 

joho

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Are we becoming like gun fanatics like Americans? It's much easier to buy guns in America so murder rate from guns are much higher in America.
 

poorboyv6

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It's not a single guy who shows up to steal your generator of food. Even if he is, if he has a bat or a knife, how well do you think you can defend yourself? There's lots of examples of some black belt in martial arts law enforcement guy showing up at a domestic dispute and getting sliced up by a little housewife.

As I've said before, natural disasters happen all the time all over the world. They happen enough you need to be concerned about them. Only has to happen once to you to make you think about it. Doesn't mean you need to build yourself a bomb shelter, but you should have enough to get you through a minimum of 48 hrs, like I had to do during the Eastern Seaboard blackout when I lived in Toronto. A week is better.
 

poorboyv6

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Got news for you. Canada is filled with guns. Just go out to the country or up north. They're everywhere.
 

MissJames

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lol way to be a juvenile. I wasn't saying that's what should happen, but if I can protect my family and myself from getting hurt by having a one up on anyone who attempts to hurt me/us I'll take it.
 

MissJames

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except that that is more than my rent, and I was just asking how much you bought yours for. I go gun window shopping once a week or so, so I know what I'm looking to pay TYVM lol
 

MissJames

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I doubt it will EVER be easy to buy guns legally in Canada like it is in the US. And btw I was half joking about needing a gun for the apocalypse. That's not why I'm buying a gun, I'm buying a gun because it ends up being a lot cheaper for me when I go to the range to bring my own ammo and weapon, and if I'm a member. All the financial benefits for someone who shoots as a hobby.

Then again, when the zombies do come, don't come crying to me about how you can't defend yourself :p
 

MissJames

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Guns....hmmm. Why a gun. Is that going to save you is it going to make things better in what ever disaster happens or mobs of people.

My opinion and this is from up close and personal experience. Guns hurt and kill, they kill innocent people. I do not like guns. I would like to try out hunting but I am terrified of guns.

For the people posting here, Have you ever seen someone shot by a gun, have you ever had a gun put to you up in your face or the back of your head. Have you ever seen bikers at war and muliple shootings.
Personal experience been there. Guns kill, guns kill innocent people. If you are panicked and adrenaline kicks in you may act before thinking and that innocent person gets killed.

I think they are silly. LE has guns for a reason and even they do not always use them wisely they have been known to panic and shoot when it wasn't necassary.

That is all. Untill you really see what I have seen....you should think before you purchase.
Poorboy isn't talking about walking around with a gun for personal protection, and as he said to legally possess a firearm in Canada you need a license. Which requires a course, which requires sitting through two supremely boring days talking about simple gun safety and also learning that you can't have a loaded handgun sitting under your pillow. There is a proper way to store a gun and ammunition so that people don't make rash decisions. Also I'm sorry you had a bad experience with guns, I had a terrible experience when I was quite a bit younger as well, but I'd like to point out, that it sounds like the people you've had the misfortune of running into with guns were not responsible legal gun owners. I live with military personnel and they own guns. I learned to shoot because they said "if I'm going to have a gun in the house, you damn well better know how to handle one properly" and so I obliged. I love shooting. It helps me relax and gives me something to focus on for an hour or two.
And yes poorboy, I was just using it as an example of how people react in mob situations and when hysteria is involved. I wasn't saying a gun in that situation would have changed it any. Some of you people really need to relax... breathe... go fire off a few rounds or something...
PS congrats on your purchase poorboy, have fun and play nice!
 

gpchillin

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Unfortunately in Canada the average citizen gets hammered if they do anything to protect themselves or their things from career criminals who just get put through the revolving door of justice. A store owner or home owner using a weapon to defend themselves and their property will get far more jail time then the person or people trying to destroy or rob them its pretty sad if you ask me.

During a real situation shooting a person stealing your generator will get you pretty much a life sentence while the person who tried to steal your generator will probably wait for years for a court date then have it dismissed.
 
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