PERB is an advertising site - Not a review site

[Claptix]

"Edited by BcMod - you can only provide a direct link to an SP if they are a paid advertiser "

I have seen this in a number of reviews recently. If this is the case, PERB is no longer truly a review site. It is simply an advertising site masquerading as a review site. I have visited and partipated in a number of adult entertainment communities before and have never seen a policy like this on any other site.

If you are not allowed to provide contact information, what good is a review?

I started posting on PERB about 4 years ago and when I reviewed I included contact information. It did not appear to be an issue then.

The "No Review" list was/is a joke and now we can not include direct contact information in reviews unless the person is actively paying PERB. The value of this site is the information exchanged not the handful of companions that participate on this board.

I think the owners of PERB need to review the effective economic models that other similar sites have employed. These do not require having the board revolve entirely around the wishes of a few paid advertisers.

JC

 

[tedsweettangv]

I agree. And even though it is enforced you can still link Craig's list ads. I probably shouldn't have said anything now that will be stopped and we will have a site that you can only review paid advertisers and if it is a bad to mediocre review it will be deleted. It certainly seems to be losing the reason to come here an if the pooners can't come for honest reviews, there will be no reason for the advertisers to advertise here.

 

[Miss*Bijou]

I may be wrong but I think a link to a non Perb advertiser's website is what is not permitted rather than contact info (email)....?


But again, not sure... I may be wrong about that.

 

[island-guy]

I'm surprised that you're just discovering this now.

Yes, it is an advertising site, not a review site.

You do know about the rules that say that advertisers are allowed to create fake user IDs and shill themselves and that an advertiser can have any negative review or comments deleted, right?

 

[DaBoneman]

I may be wrong but I think a link to a non Perb advertiser's website is what is not permitted rather than contact info (email)....?


But again, not sure... I may be wrong about that.

That's what I thought when I first saw the Mods editing a couple of reveiws. However the intent appears to be to remove any link to a SP or to her contact info. It appears that this applies to both links to other sites or even writing the contact info in the review itself.


Here's what the mod edit says:


Edited - only provide a direct link to SP's or their contact info if they are paid advertisers

 

[Very Veronica]

waaaaaaaah

All the girls reviewed here can be found on craigslist, thru google or simply pm the reviewer. In the enthusiastic words of Shell Busey, 'it's just that easy!' If non-paid girls were allowed to have contact/ad info posted, why should i bother paying? It's a small privilege & keeps the site more professional, imo.

As for the DNR list, there's maybe 10-20 girls (?) in the city who don't want to be reviewed for personal/safety reasons. Unlike other occupations, sp's take enormous personal/safety risks from inevitable harassment to the threat of being violently murdered by psycho men who are an unfortunate reality in this biz. No one's forcing you to see a girl who doesn't have reviews, no one's forcing you to have paid sex & you are not entitled to any info an sp is not comfortable having splashed all over the internet. Capiche?

If you've got some ideas about how the site can better generate a little revenue so you freeloaders can hang out, send Fred a pm. If you don't like the rules, go to another site or start your own. Fyi, the only other worthwhile review site for my biz, charges a monthly fee to fully read reviews..perb's free so stop your whining.

And hey, you can always just stay home & tug. To paraphrase another slogan, if you want it done right (and you're too cheap to pay) DIY.

 

[M1A]

All the girls reviewed here can be found on craigslist, thru google or simply pm the reviewer. In the enthusiastic words of Shell Busey, 'it's just that easy!' If non-paid girls were allowed to have contact/ad info posted, why should i bother paying? It's a small privilege & keeps the site more professional, imo.

As for the DNR list, there's maybe 10-20 girls (?) in the city who don't want to be reviewed for personal/safety reasons. Unlike other occupations, sp's take enormous personal/safety risks from inevitable harassment to the threat of being violently murdered by psycho men who are an unfortunate reality in this biz. No one's forcing you to see a girl who doesn't have reviews, no one's forcing you to have paid sex & you are not entitled to any info an sp is not comfortable having splashed all over the internet. Capiche?

If you've got some ideas about how the site can better generate a little revenue so you freeloaders can hang out, send Fred a pm. If you don't like the rules, go to another site or start your own. Fyi, the only other worthwhile review site for my biz, charges a monthly fee to fully read reviews..perb's free so stop your whining.

And hey, you can always just stay home & tug. To paraphrase another slogan, if you want it done right (and your too cheap to pay) DIY.

Word!

 

[SeekSteadyRegSP]

"Edited by BcMod - you can only provide a direct link to an SP if they are a paid advertiser "

I have seen this in a number of reviews recently. If this is the case, PERB is no longer truly a review site. It is simply an advertising site masquerading as a review site.
JC

Do you even know what a "link" is?


That rule doesn't even relate to your accusation as stated.

Furthermore, no matter the intent of the people who wrote that rule, you can still skirt it by not putting info in "link" format, which would at least force them to add clarity which even you can figure out.

For the rest of us, we can still copy Craigslist ads (why wouldn't we, when they expire long before our reviews/questions about them do?) and trade information/reviews about ANYBODY as we've always done, while making far-more-than-vague reference to them. This allows that anybody with half a brain could get to the contact info for the person and make connections with them without their needing to be "linked" at PERB.

I mean for example:

IF you were to say "yadda yadda yadda... I saw Michelle, the 'perky young asian' in Coquitlam, advertised in the Georgia Straight..." you wouldn't have to "link" to her website, or to a satellite image of her home taken in 1999 in order to get the point across about where the rest of us could make connections.

This really isn't that difficult.

The preference given to female advertisers at PERB is perfectly sensible given all things involved.

Next time you find a girl you really like, why don't you TELL HER about PERB, and then she can join and at least be "present" here, if not 'linked', and others could have yet one more way to contact her?

 

[Claptix]

I will post more tomorrow. However, I do not know how I am classified as a freeloader. I have posted over 20 reviews on this site. Those that have reviewed here bring more value to the site that those that advertise. Otherwise, this would simply be another Eros. It is the reviews that make the site worthwhile. Afterall, if I am not mistaken, the "R" in PERB stands for review.

In the meantime, Veronica if you would like to see a site that basically is a great model for revenue without being controlled by a very few paid advertisers, feel free to check out sfredbook.com.

Obviously, your view comes from someone who is a part of a unique minority that has taken control of the rules that drive this particular site. It is logical that you would wish for it to be difficult for those here to follow up on information from a good review.

The "no-review" rule is a joke. I firmly believe that if someone does not publicily advertise that they should be able to free themselves from reviews. I also beleive that one should be able to have positive reviews removed. However, if one publicly advertises, they should have no control whatsoever on whether a negative review is removed or not. One can not claim discretion when one advertises in public forums.

JC

 

[GoodKat]

Fyi, the only other worthwhile review site for my biz, charges a monthly fee to fully read reviews...

Link please.

 

[LittleAsianGuy]

Christ sake that means everytime someone does a review they'd be getting tons of private messages for contact info.

Here's what the mod edit says:


Edited - only provide a direct link to SP's or their contact info if they are paid advertisers

 

[Miss*Bijou]

In the meantime, Veronica if you would like to see a site that basically is a great model for revenue without being controlled by a very few paid advertisers, feel free to check out sfredbook.com.

http://www.myredbook.com/join.aspx
Ha! Free for me, not free & monthly fee for you, Mister C.


But... Yay! Perb still free for you.


Not much fun, I agree... but someone's got to pay. Just the way it is.
Either you... or me.

 

[SexyBoy]

Christ sake that means everytime someone does a review they'd be getting tons of private messages for contact info.

Oh god I hope not.

Just give contact info and no direct link. It is all good and easy to figure out.

 

[Rob1]

ok so why all the cl links thay cant all be in red

 

[GoodKat]

http://www.myredbook.com/join.aspx
Ha! Free for me, not free & monthly fee for you, Mister C.

Uh oh, somebody's gonna get in trouble.

 

[Very Veronica]

I'm a little busy now too, the mods & i had Fred & Sheik over last nite for a group training session & the place is a mess. They're all doing maid duty now but require constant supervision. Especially that bcmod who i keep on a short leash. Now if you'll excuse me, it's breaktime for my boys, 'come bitches, time to lick Mistress V's ass!

I will post more tomorrow.

Obviously, your view comes from someone who is a part of a unique minority that has taken control of the rules that drive this particular site.

 

[Dasha]

PERBs objectives are crystal clear

Well, here's my always controversial 2 cents. I never came here to advertise or give links to any of my sites. I only came here because there were lies and bullshit reviews being posted here and it was trashing my business. So, I came here to put out fires and set lies to truths. However. I'm not allowed to do that here either unless I pay the very company who allows posters to talk about me, my business and my services without any shred of evidence to back their claims. In essence, "hey Dasha, you can set the record straight and prove that guy was lying but, you have to be a paying advertiser...

Basically, as I've learned, a PERBer can post an un flattering picture of an SP and give a totally false description of her looks (as was the case with me) but the SP is NOT ALLOWED to post even a small picture to stop the lies and set the record straight. I had a guy claiming I had less than attractive boobs so I defended myself to the over 6000 people who read those damaging words by posting a real, new and accurate picture of me. My efforts worked, the mean people backed off me. The lies stopped and all was good...until I suppose a "paying sucker"...uhm, I mean SP deamed my picture was helping my business (if you can imagine me wanting to help my business after like I said, nearly 7000 PERBers were making their minds up not to see me based on these lies.) PERB's desicion was to remove my defending picture and ban me for 7 days for unpaid advetising so anyone could say and post anything about me for 7 days without me being able to dispute.

When I posted my picture and reclaimed the truth about my appearance, it made one of the more senior PERB reviewers a public liar with zero credibility to his reviews because i actually stood up and called him on it. I guess that embarrassed the fine folks at perb cause it makes their review board look biased and untrustable...which it is.

Again, just my 2 cents.

xox
Dasha

 

[SexyBoy]

It isn't that expensive to become red is it? Fred seems like a very reasonable guy if you ask me.

Out of all of the websites to advertise on I would think this is one of the best.

I just dislike having to look for contact info, and a SP's pictures.

Maybe I should become a paid advertiser so I can post links!

The last thing I want though is some guy PMing me asking me for a BJ.

 

[Babylon]

Dasha: I personally didn't find what you posted to be advertising mainly because I could feel your anger and your motivation. I don't think your motivation was to advertise - even if it worked to your benefit in the long run

There are some uptight, catty people here - don't let them get you down. You and me - we have youth and fire in our eyes where they only have ashes in theirs. Just smile, lick your wounds and run into the night!

What can I say? I love my raven-haired naughty nymphettes!

While you are here though - you mine as well go red - it's really not that much in the long run. At least then you can post without feeling like you're walking on egg shells.

 

[D.W.B]

All the girls reviewed here can be found on craigslist, thru google or simply pm the reviewer. In the enthusiastic words of Shell Busey, 'it's just that easy!' If non-paid girls were allowed to have contact/ad info posted, why should i bother paying? It's a small privilege & keeps the site more professional, imo.

As for the DNR list, there's maybe 10-20 girls (?) in the city who don't want to be reviewed for personal/safety reasons. Unlike other occupations, sp's take enormous personal/safety risks from inevitable harassment to the threat of being violently murdered by psycho men who are an unfortunate reality in this biz. No one's forcing you to see a girl who doesn't have reviews, no one's forcing you to have paid sex & you are not entitled to any info an sp is not comfortable having splashed all over the internet. Capiche?

If you've got some ideas about how the site can better generate a little revenue so you freeloaders can hang out, send Fred a pm. If you don't like the rules, go to another site or start your own. Fyi, the only other worthwhile review site for my biz, charges a monthly fee to fully read reviews..perb's free so stop your whining.

And hey, you can always just stay home & tug. To paraphrase another slogan, if you want it done right (and you're too cheap to pay) DIY.

Freeloaders at $300.00 an hour ,what the fuck are you on besides stupid?