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penis envy and other thoughts on chicks and dicks...

lynne

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OK, chillin with Alex, enjoying a new friend Stella, the beer not the chick, and we get to talking about dicks, foreskin, boners, and toss around the idea of penis envy..."What would you do with one..." The mechanics, aesthetics, physics.

So now I am thinking, which sometimes gets dangerous so prepare to duck, about fetishism, crossdressing, and other gender bending and homosexual fantasies by otherwise heterosexual men and women. We are all just slightly bent, secretly twisted up about taboos, and labels and such, when we are all much more similar than we are different and labels serve only to create an illusion of difference.

I am interested in debunking the myth of the "if I like it I must be gay" anal repulsion by men? I wanna know, purely in the interest of science, how many guys have experienced The "A" spot, aka prostate massage. It is a highly sensitive area and from what I hear most men who dare to try it regret only that it took so long to do so.

Sorry, I warned you...
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lynne said:
OK, chillin with Alex, enjoying a new friend Stella, the beer not the chick, and we get to talking about dicks, foreskin, boners, and toss around the idea of penis envy..."What would you do with one..." The mechanics, aesthetics, physics...
Well Lynne, what was your answer to Alex? Was it "I would have it converted it to a vagina so I could make money"? :p

lynne said:
...I wanna know, purely in the interest of science, how many guys have experienced The "A" spot, aka prostate massage. It is a highly sensitive area and from what I hear most men who dare to try it regret only that it took so long to do so.
I hear you Lynne. I was almost 19 before I found out! :eek: All those wasted years! :eek:
 

oberon1999

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lynne said:

I am interested in debunking the myth of the "if I like it I must be gay" anal repulsion by men? I wanna know, purely in the interest of science, how many guys have experienced The "A" spot, aka prostate massage. It is a highly sensitive area and from what I hear most men who dare to try it regret only that it took so long to do so.

Sorry, I warned you...
L.
Hmmm, well what can I say .. try it you'll like it, I was lucky and found out early, probably before all the taboos were fully explained to me :)) Not something that I get to enjoy all that often, most women for the reason you mentioned are reluctant to try it on a guy (at least it seems that way to me) and as I already said in some other thread once I get "involved" with a women I tend to get too caught up in the moment to remember to say "oh yeah can you please..."

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oberon1999

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Re: Penis envy?

Little Alex said:


If you were to establish a poll where guys could answer anonymously you'd probably get a lot more responses as there are going to be those who read this post and say eeewww but don't want to comment. On the other hand there are certainly ads out there for nurse service and prostate massage so there must be guys who are exclusively into that.
Sex and sexuality is a pretty weird thing really, it never ceases to amaze me then amount of problems that are caused by our sexuality and not accepting or trying to deny aspects of it..

When I was young (and an admitted stupid prick) a good way to provoke a fight would be to say to a guy something like "ah your mother sucks your fathers c$ck" Amazing how many people can't accept that.

Anal play is similar many people just will not allow themselves to enjoy it. I had a lady use a vibrator on me recently and as she came towards me with it she very carefully said, "don't worry I'm not going to put it anywhere bad" of course all the blood had left my brain by that time or I would have said "I can't think of a single bad place you could put that".... an opportunity lost.. But it shows you the attitude of most men at least the attitude they project when not alone..

I've had a theory for a long time, gay men have a stereo-type of being more open and adventurous with sex and I personnally think it is because if you are openly gay you have to have come to grips with your sexuality in a way that most straight men (and women for that matter) never do and that frees you up. Just my theory (I am not a psycologist nor do I play one on TV)...

BTW Lynne, I'm not sure where the penis envy part comes in here??

oberon
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HowieMeeker

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Vancouverman - you heard it wrong...

...it was not "try anything at least three times, before you say "I don't like it"'. The old saying goes "Try anything at least three times except,:

1. Seeing ssssssssssssssssssssssssssha..
2. Getting Rub A535 near your genitals as part of a hockey hazing
3. Having ANYTHING stuck up your ass.

OK?
 

oberon1999

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Re: Vancouverman - you heard it wrong...

HowieMeeker said:
...it was not "try anything at least three times, before you say "I don't like it"'. The old saying goes "Try anything at least three times except,:

1. Seeing ssssssssssssssssssssssssssha..
2. Getting Rub A535 near your genitals as part of a hockey hazing
3. Having ANYTHING stuck up your ass.

OK?

LOL ok Howie 2 outta 3 ain't bad ... I bet you're scared to bend over and pick up the soap in the dressing room shower too :))

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HowieMeeker

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What's with the secret dolphin society?

Oberon:

What's with the whole Dolphin thing. I feel out of the loop like someone who missed the only key lecture of the semester and it is now final exam time!

Howie

P.S. Soap on a rope is the way to go and shower with back against the wall. Always safe that way.
 

oberon1999

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Re: What's with the secret dolphin society?

HowieMeeker said:

P.S. Soap on a rope is the way to go and shower with back against the wall. Always safe that way.
And you hang the rope on????

oberon
 

HowieMeeker

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The visuals in light of the dressing room setting are scary

Oberson:

Well, I don't like to brag but....

Actually, if I was ever in a shower after a hockey game and some guy came in sporting a woody capable of hanging soap on it, I would be out of that room, off that team and straight to therapy - there is only some much "take one for the team" one can be willing to consider.
 

tiger

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First time I had real good anal stimulation was with an MP who just surprised me by slowly rimming me with her well oiled finger and then sliding it in at the same time she was massaging my balls. It was intense and quite a good session. It is not for me everyday, but she was good at it and made me feel at ease while providing a "different" experience.

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oberon1999

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Re: The visuals in light of the dressing room setting are scary

HowieMeeker said:
Oberson:

Well, I don't like to brag but....

Actually, if I was ever in a shower after a hockey game and some guy came in sporting a woody capable of hanging soap on it, I would be out of that room, off that team and straight to therapy - there is only some much "take one for the team" one can be willing to consider.
Thanks for helping me make my point Howie :)) LOL

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Saffire

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I was the first one to show my ex-boyfriend the joys a finger can bring to a man. His comment still baffles me, but expresses so much. "That was the best orgasm I've ever had. But, let's not do that again, okay." Read it again and please tell me how having the best orgasm of your life could possibly be a bad thing!?! Ah well, he was a bit of a strange one anyway.
 

oberon1999

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Saffire said:
I was the first one to show my ex-boyfriend the joys a finger can bring to a man. His comment still baffles me, but expresses so much. "That was the best orgasm I've ever had. But, let's not do that again, okay." Read it again and please tell me how having the best orgasm of your life could possibly be a bad thing!?! Ah well, he was a bit of a strange one anyway.
It is that taboo thing, even if it is great it's taboo... Nothing will f**k you up more than sexual taboos... I think of all the good things I missed because of taboos, slowly stamping out mine (at least some of them ;-)

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Saffire

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That's what I mean. You are secure enough to know that just because a gay man hits on you, doesn't mean you are gay or make you any less of a heterosexual man. You've thought it through, maybe experimented, or at least let the question run through your mind, and made your decision. Most men won't even let the thought enter at all. This is sooo a whole different debate, but a finger in your ass, when given by the girl who turns you on, has nothing to do with being gay. If I like a finger in my ass, does that mean I'm gay? Sorry, but it frustrates to no end when people don't at least try something before deciding they don't like it. And worse, classifying it as something that's 'wrong' for other people to like as well.

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oberon1999

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Many great comments here, Saffire as always and Alex ditto but also nicely put L2L...

Little Alex you said "Masturbators please note you can check this out for yourself"

And you are right, if you are looking for a "safe" way to try this do it yourself! of course everything is better with a beautiful lady you trust and respect but hey I know those are sometimes hard to find. Try in yourself and nobody ever needs to know.

I'll admit to having an odd start to my sex life and having some odd experinces along the way that made me who I am today and also made me realize most sexual Taboo's are crap. (I'll leave out the life details so as not to offend ~Alexandria~ :)

Have fun experiment, enjoy, learn, love

oberon
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oberon1999

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~Alexandria~ said:
Thank-you Oberon Darling, for sparing me the gory details - I'll just sit back in my little white bread box, with my hands clasped firmly over my ears and my eyes tightly closed - I promise not to be offended - after all...I didn't hear or see a thing ~:)

Lynnieeeeeeeeeeeeee!!
Jesus it's not THAT bad, no animals were injured and all parties involved were either A) consenting adults or B) minors of the same age at the time... :))

And yeah hey the whole damn thing is Lynne's fault ;-))

oberon
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