Finally something that will be done to stop providers who provide BBFS and pooners looking for it. My buddy is very heavy into law enforcement and works with WHRA. Due to the major increase in STI's over the past 18 months there is in works a law where providers if proven to be providing BBFS and knowingly passes on a STI for money will be charged and depending on the severity could do jail time for passing HIV, hep C , along with fines , Also pooners who seek BBFS and pass on disease will also face the same charge . Finally something being done to stop these idiots who look for BBFS and those who provide it and who pass on disease . You people are the sick ones . If you want to do that, go home grab a rope , a chair and just save us all and end it. This is for those stupid Sp and pooners who look for this ? Why? Just end it, save us all and the medical society please
New law fall of 2017
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Yes, I'm not sure what the "new" part is to this law. I'm guessing there is information missing. Knowingly passing on several different STI's can already result in criminal charges and civil.
Yes , sorry stronger laws with min jail time of 5 years for passing HIV and Hep C , also developing a public registry if the pooner or SP continue to try and have unprotected sex, plus more crack down stings on SPs and pooners looking for BBFS , I heard min fine of $5000.00 WHRA and the law society are working together to crack down on STIs I'm hearing Manitoba has had an increase of 27% in STI's in the sex industry and 32% in general public with a correlation to someone having BBFS or unprotected Oral passing on diseases to partners . I'm hearing things will change in the fall
Again it sounds like our government wants to close the barn door after the horse is gone. Having a son in his late twentys, it astounds me how many of his friends knock up or get knocked up. These young people are obviously having unprotected sex just based on the "unplannedl" pregnancies, never mind the STI's which they don't talk about. To slap someone who has contracted a life threatening disease like HIV with a $5000 fine is just ludicrous. It's like getting hit by a car and then getting charged with jay walking. They need to educate. They need to do something to prevent this from happening. In the numbers game, it is a bigger problem outside of the sex trade industry than in it. But if they want to focus on the sex trade side of it, I have a suggestion. Build an app to harvest phone numbers from the advertising sites and text gross pictures to these providers like they have on cigarette packs. But honestly, if sp's stop providing this service, then the pooners craving it will just spend more time at the Marion seeking it out on the private side. In the streetwalker days, the LE would force the girls out of one area, only to find they surfaced in another area. This is no different. You can put whatever fine or jail term you want on the problem, it's not going to prevent the problem. The only upside I see is this may slow down the problem and improve WHRA's numbers which they will see ass a success, but in fact is not a success. Again, I reiterate. Education is the key. Drive it into these high school kids and corner the sp's out there of the dangers. Of course this means cutting into the revenues of the Manitoba justice system.
First the law society has to work with the WHRA as WHRA has several stats indicating HIV , HEP C , Syphilis are on the increase, these new laws are under review right now with the Law Society and once passed thru the government will be enforced by Manitoba Justice. Fines of $5000.00 is for HIV but that includes a Min time in prison of 5 years , min time, can go up to 15 years depending on how many infected. Hep C I hear will carry 2-5 years years , other diseases , major fines and more than one occurrence , 1 year in Jail. Think about it, a Record, can't cross the border, loss of Job, maybe loss of marriage, GF , Family , is it really worth it. This is to crack down on SP's who offer BBFS and those Pooners who ask for BBFS. My buddy is saying they will do stings against pooners and SP's major fines etc, also mandatory testing on both if arrested. WHRA has stats on the occurrence of STI's thru escort, pooner relationships. Some don't want to believe it because they can't except reality. Grizzly is right about education, however most SP's and Pooners already know about the risks. young society also knows and there is education, but something you don't know STI's in Manitoba , the highest rate is 30 to 40 years of age in both men and women, most SP's do lie about thier age guys, I think we all know that not young kids, also SP's have had a 37% increase in STD's over the last 5 years and yes most are habitual drug users , cocaine, meth etc. All I'm saying is play safe and be careful and if we know tell the board about SP's, Name them, but also name the Pooners who ask for BBFS, they should also be known. Basically anyone providing or asking for BBFS just go home and end it, The rope , a chair, save our medical society, fellow pooners and SP's of your risks because your losers and fellow human beings from your stupid ways! Wear a condom, stay away from unprotected Oral sex, increase in certain cancers, 48% from unprotected oral sex. |Guys I'm in the medical industry and know this, Yes I play safe , People can enjoy this lifestyle, but be smart , don't be stupid
I get what you're trying to do but how exactly do they propose to prove this? HIV is not so common but what what about some of the others? Who's to say who gave it to who and where it came from?
Isn't it a he said she said?
And why the big crack down on prostitution?
What about all the "civilian's" having unprotected sex? What kind of a sting are you going to put on them? Is big brother going to set up camera's in everyone's bedroom? Chaperone's?
How do you patrol common sense..
Isn't it a he said she said?
And why the big crack down on prostitution?
What about all the "civilian's" having unprotected sex? What kind of a sting are you going to put on them? Is big brother going to set up camera's in everyone's bedroom? Chaperone's?
How do you patrol common sense..
There has not been anything mentioned, not even a whisper about any level of government or any politician doing anything like this.
Wouldn't it be in the news for a couple of weeks, with conversations from the WRHA, WPS, and even some SP's (with blurred out faces & a voice changeover) saying that something needs to be done.
After that, the MB Health Minister would be interviewed or say a blurb to the media about it.
But...nothing? Nothing at all?
Seems fishy.
If it does come to fruition, fine. I am all for it. BBFS with someone who is not a spouse/significant other is not good for anyone, and if something can be done, it should be done.
And, why is this only in Winnipeg? Why wouldn't it be be a federal law? If someone from Manitoba went & did BBFS, should they not receive the same punishment.
Again, seems odd that nothing at all has been mentioned.
Wouldn't it be in the news for a couple of weeks, with conversations from the WRHA, WPS, and even some SP's (with blurred out faces & a voice changeover) saying that something needs to be done.
After that, the MB Health Minister would be interviewed or say a blurb to the media about it.
But...nothing? Nothing at all?
Seems fishy.
If it does come to fruition, fine. I am all for it. BBFS with someone who is not a spouse/significant other is not good for anyone, and if something can be done, it should be done.
And, why is this only in Winnipeg? Why wouldn't it be be a federal law? If someone from Manitoba went & did BBFS, should they not receive the same punishment.
Again, seems odd that nothing at all has been mentioned.
Basically this is something has been talked about for years behind closed doors, however the increase in STD's, more so HIV and HIV is more common than you think, also Hep C and Syphilis along with other STI's. When someone contracts anyone of these diseases , they are asked a questionnaire, some are questioned by doctors etc. stats are and have been taken and you would be surprised on how many have contracted STI's thru SP's and the other way from BBFS. The crack down has been talked through out the provinces for years and in regional meetings. They have always had stings and set ups, Pooners along with SP's will be targeted. Remember you are paying for sex and the SP's are charging. Yes civilians have unprotected sex, you are a civilian right? This has to do with a crack down yes on prostitution and pooners who knowingly try and have BBFS and put society at whole at risk. Some of the comments you make seem to question are you scared? I mean if you practice safe sex why worry about it. This basically is a crack down on SP's and pooners exchanging money and passing on deadly STD's knowingly that's all. Civilians yes have sex and their are definitely risks but we are talking about prostitution and those who knowingly offer BBFS or ask for it while being infected. I think that's fair to Society Don't you?
these things have been talked about for years, open your ears, come on , and you follow the WHRA ? WPS have talked about this and they have always done stings from time to time, ask SP's and Johns who have been arrested. First listen we are talking about BBFS and those with a disease who knowingly infect others with little regards to society , this is for Sp's and pooners who ask for BBFS, also provinces have been talking about this for years and unless you involved directly you wouldn't know. Provinces, the CMA have been watching and seeing alarming increases in STI's from SP's and pooners and are trying to stop one portion, yes government will make money thru charges and lose money by sending some to jail, however decreasing risks will hopefully help . not everyone can be stopped, education is out there, however Sp's are in for the Quick $$$, pooners are in for the different excitement , the thrill. however think about it, did you know most SP's in a day will have 3-5 Pooners, some more . Imagine that SP having BBFS with all say 5 and your number 5? Pretty ugly and you just Paid $$ to $$$. who's the fool? Now most likely this thread will end by the moderator but at least I hope you realized both SP's and pooners who seek BBFS should be identified.
I am sceptical as well.
Criminal law is a federal jurisdiction. Any "law" like this would first be proposed as a bill and it would work its way through the system.
Just because the WPS or WRHA want it passed does not matter.
There would be a lot of discussion about such a hot topic.
I am also sceptical of your statistics and will look up StatsCan later.
Again, just because diseases are up, which they may or may not be, does not mean a law wil appear out of nowhere.
I have neighbour who are both doctors and police, none have mentioned this.
None.
Criminal law is a federal jurisdiction. Any "law" like this would first be proposed as a bill and it would work its way through the system.
Just because the WPS or WRHA want it passed does not matter.
There would be a lot of discussion about such a hot topic.
I am also sceptical of your statistics and will look up StatsCan later.
Again, just because diseases are up, which they may or may not be, does not mean a law wil appear out of nowhere.
I have neighbour who are both doctors and police, none have mentioned this.
None.
It seems that some who are skeptical are either afraid or basically have no idea or just don't want to come grips that this will happen, as I said before this has been talked regionally through out the provinces , the WHRA has stat, the law society along with government and provincial bodies have been discussing this for years collecting data to make it cross Canada , they are not going to go blab it out to everyone ? Really ? You think that? Also you have a neighbour who is a doctor , so every doctor is going to know this? Really give your head a shake? And every cop is going to know ? Please, please go look at stats , please , also look at the stTs in Ontario and Quebec , Ontario is at a 23% increase , while ares of Quebec are at an alarming 39% increase among the sex trade. Basically I can only say believe what you want, don't matter to me , just play safe , don't do the BBFS or unprotected oral and bring it home to your wife or GF , if you do, your then the one to blame. Those who seek BBFS and those who offer well just get a rope and chair or whatever you want , just end it and save society and health care your time and don't waste our money. I've talked enough about this , can't get those minutes back , take care
Purchasing sex is not illegal.
There are illegal ways to purchase and sell sex. As well, there are legal ways to purchase and sell sex.
this is a dumb law, it will encourage providers and pooners to not get tested so they can avoid the "with knowledge" condition
