Marc Emery could be screwed

[Cali Scott]

Drugs are bad ummkay

Yeah well, there's drugs and then there is Pot. Just because the government says it's a drug doesn't mean that you should lump it in with everything else.

 

[rafterman]

it IS a word.

Main Entry: tou·ché
Pronunciation: tü-'shA
Function: interjection
Etymology: French, from past participle of toucher to touch, from Old French tuchier
-- used to acknowledge a hit in fencing or the success or appropriateness of an argument, an accusation, or a witty point

From Miriam Webster on-line dictionary

Your welcome!!!

Now lets return to the subject of this thread a monster pissing match about weed, Mark Emery, and the DEA attempting to extradite him to the U.S.

 

[Cali Scott]

Main Entry: tou·ché
Pronunciation: tü-'shA
Function: interjection
Etymology: French, from past participle of toucher to touch, from Old French tuchier
-- used to acknowledge a hit in fencing or the success or appropriateness of an argument, an accusation, or a witty point

From Miriam Webster on-line dictionary

Your welcome!!!

Now lets return to the subject of this thread a monster pissing match about weed, Mark Emery, and the DEA attempting to extradite him to the U.S.

Thank you Rafterman.

 

[rafterman]

The DEA is working with western union, and is trying to coerce american and canadian citizens to incriminate themselves, by signing a document where they admit they are purchasing seeds from www.emeryseeds.com

Emery speculates this is just the beginning of a major roundup of marijuana grow operations

creeps

They're channelling Joseph McCarthy

 

[rafterman]

Squirrel lights up a big fat BC home-grown doobie harvested from his own personal Stanley Park gro-op located on the little sunny meadow up stream from lost lake ... smiles and quietly passes it to the beautiful ~A~ beside him ... with a big hug and a kiss. There is love around the perberbian campfire ... because the shamans have peace pipes in the beaded satchels that adorn the circle.

Ahh!!! there is nothing quite like the buzz you get off smoking your own home grown herb.

Or so I've been told

 

[Kev]

That is complete BS. I do not tacitly condone his behaviour. I just have more important things to worry about. Why should we expect the Americans to respect our liberal views if we do not respect their conservative views on drugs? If he committed a crime in the US he should face their penalties even if we don't like them.

I haven't followed the case that closely but if he taunted the US and then ran and hid behind the Canadian government or courts he is an idiot not worth protecting. Maintaining good relations with the US is important and there are more important issues for the government to worry about than protecting this guy. Why should all Canadians give up diplomacy points that could have real economic impacts to protect this guy?

I'm sick of marijuana advocates acting as if they have a worthy noble cause and are being persecuted. To other countries around the world we must look like a bunch of spoiled lazy brats.

Well said S.G. Gibson. I agree wholeheartedly.

 

[Cali Scott]

That is complete BS. I do not tacitly condone his behaviour. I just have more important things to worry about. Why should we expect the Americans to respect our liberal views if we do not respect their conservative views on drugs? If he committed a crime in the US he should face their penalties even if we don't like them.

I haven't followed the case that closely but if he taunted the US and then ran and hid behind the Canadian government or courts he is an idiot not worth protecting. Maintaining good relations with the US is important and there are more important issues for the government to worry about than protecting this guy. Why should all Canadians give up diplomacy points that could have real economic impacts to protect this guy?

I'm sick of marijuana advocates acting as if they have a worthy noble cause and are being persecuted. To other countries around the world we must look like a bunch of spoiled lazy brats.

In a lot of the countries around the world Marijuana is not persecuted as it is here in America.

I believe that I have the right to do whatever I wish with my body regardless of how it affects some corporations bottom line and that no government can legislate otherwise. I believe that it is illegal because it's not THEIR drug that THEIR special interests are making a buck on - Fuck all of that!

If you have not been delivering a message to your M.P. (Pro or Con) then you are giving tacit approval to what is going on.

I am curious S.G. as to why you feel that their cause is unworthy; what is it that they are fighting for that you believe wrong? Alcohol is legal, why not pot (which harms nobody as opposed to alcohol). The black market has pumped millions of dollars into the B.C. economy annually, why not tap into it and generate revenue for the government?

You certainly have every right to your own opinion on the matter and I would like to hear it: What's wrong with Marijuana?

 

[greenvalley]

That is complete BS. I do not tacitly condone his behaviour. I just have more important things to worry about. Why should we expect the Americans to respect our liberal views if we do not respect their conservative views on drugs? If he committed a crime in the US he should face their penalties even if we don't like them.

I haven't followed the case that closely but if he taunted the US and then ran and hid behind the Canadian government or courts he is an idiot not worth protecting. Maintaining good relations with the US is important and there are more important issues for the government to worry about than protecting this guy. Why should all Canadians give up diplomacy points that could have real economic impacts to protect this guy?

I'm sick of marijuana advocates acting as if they have a worthy noble cause and are being persecuted. To other countries around the world we must look like a bunch of spoiled lazy brats.

Diplomacy points? who awards those. Do we get a gold star as Uncle Sam asks us to jump and we jump high enough? This sounds like a replay of the stuff we heard when Canada refused to support Bush's war. Oh no what will the Americans think. People with this kind of attitude have always made Canada weak. The US doesn't respect weakness and never will. After all they are just so good to us; go ask someone in the lumber business. This quote sounds about like the right idea.

"Candidly, Canadians have to decide as a small trading economy, are we going to stand together, are we going to unite, are we going to be stronger than the sum of our parts, or are we going to be endlessly bickering amongst ourselves and allowing the bully to basically mop the floor with us," Mr. Emerson said before yesterday's cabinet meeting.

That quote is to do with softwood lumber, but these are the people you are trying to get your little points from. When we can compete they throw up all kinds of dirty measures to harass our trade. This would happen regardless of our drug laws. They have done it to steel, pork, potatoes, etc.

The question in this case is did he really commit a crime? No one has been charged with seed selling since 1968. Emery isn't hiding behind the Canadian government, he is an example of our screwed up policy on MJ. They have had plenty of chances to charge him; he doesn't hide what he is doing. The CRA just loves collecting their part of his profits. The government if anything is sitting on the fence afraid of making a decision. The other influence is because of weak kneed people that bow to the US. Every time we try and have our own policy, pay for senators to provide reports. Up comes the US ambassador or one of their drug czars to threaten us with trade problems.

The trade problems are a red herring, like so much of their propaganda. They really can't search any more of the trucks than they already do, so it really is a hollow threat. They are so concerned about terrorists that they would check every container and truck anyway, even if we had their same insane drug laws. Too many time we have people falling for this crap, we never do anything on our own because they have to check with the US first.

The US doesn't care about our liberal views that is the very point; they want us to conform to theirs. After all this is the same government which doesn't even respect their people’s democratic choices. Medical MJ is legal in California, but that doesn't stop the DEA goons from hoisting a finger to the people of California. So what really is the US view that we are supposed to be worried about upsetting?

 

[Cali Scott]

Diplomacy points? who awards those. Do we get a gold star as Uncle Sam asks us to jump and we jump high enough? This sounds like a replay of the stuff we heard when Canada refused to support Bush's war. Oh no what will the Americans think. People with this kind of attitude have always made Canada weak. The US doesn't respect weakness and never will. After all they are just so good to us; go ask someone in the lumber business. This quote sounds about like the right idea.

"Candidly, Canadians have to decide as a small trading economy, are we going to stand together, are we going to unite, are we going to be stronger than the sum of our parts, or are we going to be endlessly bickering amongst ourselves and allowing the bully to basically mop the floor with us," Mr. Emerson said before yesterday's cabinet meeting.

That quote is to do with softwood lumber, but these are the people you are trying to get your little points from. When we can compete they throw up all kinds of dirty measures to harass our trade. This would happen regardless of our drug laws. They have done it to steel, pork, potatoes, etc.

The question in this case is did he really commit a crime? No one has been charged with seed selling since 1968. Emery isn't hiding behind the Canadian government, he is an example of our screwed up policy on MJ. They have had plenty of chances to charge him; he doesn't hide what he is doing. The CRA just loves collecting their part of his profits. The government if anything is sitting on the fence afraid of making a decision. The other influence is because of weak kneed people that bow to the US. Every time we try and have our own policy, pay for senators to provide reports. Up comes the US ambassador or one of their drug czars to threaten us with trade problems.

The trade problems are a red herring, like so much of their propaganda. They really can't search any more of the trucks than they already do, so it really is a hollow threat. They are so concerned about terrorists that they would check every container and truck anyway, even if we had their same insane drug laws. Too many time we have people falling for this crap, we never do anything on our own because they have to check with the US first.

The US doesn't care about our liberal views that is the very point; they want us to conform to theirs. After all this is the same government which doesn't even respect their people’s democratic choices. Medical MJ is legal in California, but that doesn't stop the DEA goons from hoisting a finger to the people of California. So what really is the US view that we are supposed to be worried about upsetting?

Right on and well put Greenvalley.

Don't underestimate the value of your trade to us though. You are our biggest trading partner, dollar-wise.

 

[smackyo]

Diplomacy points? who awards those. Do we get a gold star as Uncle Sam asks us to jump and we jump high enough? This sounds like a replay of the stuff we heard when Canada refused to support Bush's war. Oh no what will the Americans think. People with this kind of attitude have always made Canada weak. The US doesn't respect weakness and never will. After all they are just so good to us; go ask someone in the lumber business. This quote sounds about like the right idea.

"Candidly, Canadians have to decide as a small trading economy, are we going to stand together, are we going to unite, are we going to be stronger than the sum of our parts, or are we going to be endlessly bickering amongst ourselves and allowing the bully to basically mop the floor with us," Mr. Emerson said before yesterday's cabinet meeting.

That quote is to do with softwood lumber, but these are the people you are trying to get your little points from. When we can compete they throw up all kinds of dirty measures to harass our trade. This would happen regardless of our drug laws. They have done it to steel, pork, potatoes, etc.

The question in this case is did he really commit a crime? No one has been charged with seed selling since 1968. Emery isn't hiding behind the Canadian government, he is an example of our screwed up policy on MJ. They have had plenty of chances to charge him; he doesn't hide what he is doing. The CRA just loves collecting their part of his profits. The government if anything is sitting on the fence afraid of making a decision. The other influence is because of weak kneed people that bow to the US. Every time we try and have our own policy, pay for senators to provide reports. Up comes the US ambassador or one of their drug czars to threaten us with trade problems.

The trade problems are a red herring, like so much of their propaganda. They really can't search any more of the trucks than they already do, so it really is a hollow threat. They are so concerned about terrorists that they would check every container and truck anyway, even if we had their same insane drug laws. Too many time we have people falling for this crap, we never do anything on our own because they have to check with the US first.

The US doesn't care about our liberal views that is the very point; they want us to conform to theirs. After all this is the same government which doesn't even respect their people’s democratic choices. Medical MJ is legal in California, but that doesn't stop the DEA goons from hoisting a finger to the people of California. So what really is the US view that we are supposed to be worried about upsetting?

possibly one of the smartest things i've ever heard on this board. its people with opinions like s.g. gibson, kev or even sometimes lenny that have kept this country from being great, just like the avro arrow program. bow to u.s. pressure and send our best and brightest there to work. emerson was right on the money with his statement. time to stand the fuck up already and if so "die on our feet rather then live on our knees".

also how the hell was he flaunting his actions to the u.s. government. he is a canadian citizen doing his thing in canada. what fucking bussiness do they have even caring what the fuck he does here????

also FUCK DAVID WILKINS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! emotional tirade my ass. he was way fucking out of line with that shit. he's a fucking diplomat aren't they supposed to be trained in "dipolmacy"? that comment doesn't sound too diplomatic to me. also fuck celuci too. fucking asshole. who the fuck does he think he is anyway? he was a guest in our country and all he ever did was tell us we were wrong in our own policies and governence.

any canadian on this board that sides with the extradition of marc emery should grow a set of fucking balls and realize what side they are on, how would you like to be next? oh don't think it could happen? think again, this goes through and it will become easier then you think for these assholes to do it. i don't even like the guy for personal reasons and how he fucked one of my friends around but thats besides the point. extraditing him for this would set a bad president.

 

[Ilovethemall]

It is not a political cause

He should go directly to jail - do not pass go.

He has no political standing, he is a fucking criminal and a stupid one at that.

Fuck him hard for being arrogant - enjoy jail mark, bring lots of lube!

 

[sirlickheralot]

What Hypocracy

He should go directly to jail - do not pass go.

He has no political standing, he is a fucking criminal and a stupid one at that.

Fuck him hard for being arrogant - enjoy jail mark, bring lots of lube!

For all the reasons mustang says - it must be incall.....and what is it with GF's.....they can always sense if a ho' has been present!

Hey Mr. Law & Order, so does the law only apply when you happen to agree with them. From this quote by you from another thread I can assume you've visited SPs at their incall location, guess what dude, you're guilty of being present in a common bawdy house. Perhaps you need a stint in prison?

As a fellow criminal who chooses to ignore unjust laws perhaps you should cut Mark Emery some slack. I agree Mark was stupid for not being more discrete but he doesn't deserve to go to prison for 20 years to life for what shouldn't even be a crime.

Here's a scenario for you: An American SP comes on PERB and announces an upcoming tour of Vancouver and asks people to contact her to book appointments. She's hot, has good reviews, and her prices happen to be good so lots of Vancouver guys contact her. But in the meantime LE in the US has busted her and is intercepting all incoming bookings. Should all the Canadian pooners who set up appointments be extridited to face charges for violating US prostitution laws, should Fred Zed be arrested as a pimp for owning the board that facilitates the breaking of US laws. (It wouldn't be the first time US LE has arrested the owner of a review board.)

 

[Ilovethemall]

bingo bango bongo

Let's say (hypothetically of course) that I was guilty of those infractions - you know what, if I got caught - it would be tough shit for me.

Every action has a potential consequence, if you break the law and get caught, too fucking bad. How many times have you been nailed for speeding and while the cop is writing you up, people are driving by at Mach 3? Pisses you off, but them be the breaks.

All I did was agree with Mustang, never said I actually did it.

Emery is arrogant and foolish and that is why I have no sympathy for him. I am not Mr. law and order, I just hate it when people whine about getting caught. If you can't do the time, don't do the crime.

 

[Ilovethemall]

I almost got ya too!

skwerrel - ya little rodent, if you weren't cute, people would trap and poison you too!

I just can't get all riled up in the defense of this guy........boohoo, I got caught, well toofuckingbad.

Now go curl up in your nest and be glad and wait for winter to be over ya fuzzy li'l bugger.

 

[Ilovethemall]

mall

skwerrel, ya fuzzy long tailed rat, it's "I love them all"

people don't kills nuts, nuts kill people

 

[Ilovethemall]

may your nuts

....then brother skwerrel, may your nuts be plentiful and tasty

 

[Paris]

He should go directly to jail - do not pass go.

He has no political standing, he is a fucking criminal and a stupid one at that.

Fuck him hard for being arrogant - enjoy jail mark, bring lots of lube!

That's a very mean statement in my opinion. Now I would be singing the very same thing.....had he been selling crack or molesting little kids. Shit I'd be the first in line to provide the lube during his incarceration period. But it's marijuana for christ sake!!!!!! And the mere thought of the strict penalties he could and will face should he be extradited is appalling...considering the offence at hand.

Paris/Caryn

 

[Ilovethemall]

my point exactly

Paris - that is my point - he was selling weed into the U.S. - where they do have tough laws.....so, he makes money in the U.S. but is not willing to face the punishment for the crime he commits in the U.S.

Sounds like that is either stupid, naive, greedy or all of the above.

He is happy to take their (U.S. citizens money) but whines when punished by their laws.

Break out the lube dude.

 

[lenny]

Founder of the Marijuana party busted. Read about it here

I get a message at this link saying:

"We're sorry... this story is not currently available"

But there is a good read on the subject here:

http://stopthedrugwar.org/chronicle/398/marcemery.shtml

 

[lenny]

Suggestions on how to help Marc Emery:

http://www.norml.org/index.cfm?Group_ID=6624