This brings back memories. Wonder why the US never went after Sam...
Ever wonder how Seagrams got its start?
Ever wonder how Seagrams got its start?
Marc Emery could be screwed
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Marijuana advocates have been testing marijuana laws for years and getting away with it, but Marc screwed up royally when he thought he could pull that shit in the US.
He took an envelop put marijuana seeds in it and shipped it to the USA. What was he thinking?
He took an envelop put marijuana seeds in it and shipped it to the USA. What was he thinking?
bronfman and mordechai richler
There's that other story about Eva Peron, when she was being escorted through the streets of Paris by a retired French admiral in the '50s, and some people in the crowd shouted 'whore' at her. 'Why are they calling me that?', she asked. 'I've been married to the president of argentina for 15 years.'
'Because they have memories, Madam. I've been retired for 15 years but they still call me 'captain'.
heh
Heh heh...Yeah, these guys always want to be respectable in the end. Bronfman´s wife was a big socialite but ya know...a leopard can't change its spots. I love that story about her meeting Mordechai Richler at some do in Westmount (no less), and Mrs. Bronfman said to him, 'Well, you've certainly done alright for a kid from St Urbain'. 'Yeah, and you've done alright for the wife of a bootlegger,' he shot back.Maury Beniowski said:
There's that other story about Eva Peron, when she was being escorted through the streets of Paris by a retired French admiral in the '50s, and some people in the crowd shouted 'whore' at her. 'Why are they calling me that?', she asked. 'I've been married to the president of argentina for 15 years.'
'Because they have memories, Madam. I've been retired for 15 years but they still call me 'captain'.
heh
Massagegirl said:
It already happend to Mark Cosgrove,a Dutch citizen who arrested in London,England and was extradited back to the US. and was given a sentance of 360 months under "Old law"pre-1987.he did 14 years.
And therein lies the time.....only do the crime if you can do the time.FuZzYknUckLeS said:If anything, I don't think its the sale of the seeds that could get Emery extradited so much as the fact that he shipped the seeds into their country. Therein lies the crime.
You are completely missing the point. They can only extradite Marc if what he has done is illegal in Canada, doesn't matter if its illegal in the US. Marc's angle is, if it’s illegal in Canada why aren't I charged by the Canadian Police. Now, kev ask yourself this why aren't they? In order for the DEA to do this investigation they have to have the co-operation of the Canadian police. So they can hardly say they didn't know he was doing this. The DEA is only allowed to observe and share information in Canada. So one very good reason they haven't charged him is? haven't heard a good reason yet from any of you.Kev said:
They have charged him with trafficking for sharing a joint, but yet they won't charge him for running a store front, multi million dollar seed selling operation.
He is trying to change the law; the only way to change bad law sometimes is to challenge it. Alcohol prohibition wasn't changed after a lengthily scientific studies, lots of votes, and agreement of the police(many of them were profiting from it). It was changed because there was just too much of it out there to stop it. Prohibition was put in without any consensus anyway.
By the way Kev Computer Virus’s, Kiddie porn are illegal in Canada, so the person would be charged here first anyway. Find a better example. And yes if seeds were legal in Canada, it wouldn't matter where he was selling them to. This has more to do with him sending money down to the US to fund legalization, read Tandy’s letter. This is one of the points that is going to be brought up by his lawyer John Conroy. You can't extradite for political reasons.
The DEA is really worried, without drug law their agency is toast. Right now they are ruining people's lives California, for something that is legal in California. It all comes down to a technicality which has nothing to do with drugs at all. It has to do with the US federal government’s ability to control interstate commerce. This is hardly a valid reason to deny a democratic vote of the people of California. Here is a quote from a head justice of the US Supreme Court.
Justice Stevens said he also regretted having to rule in favor of the federal government's ability to enforce its narcotics laws and thus trump California's medical marijuana initiative. "I have no hesitation in telling you that I agree with the policy choice made by the millions of California voters," he said. But given the broader stakes for the power of Congress to regulate commerce, he added, "our duty to uphold the application of the federal statute was pellucidly clear." http://www.nytimes.com/2005/08/25/p...rss&adxnnlx=1125347879-j1gqiGVGORUxVU6ShL4Ihg
More than a few on here just bow to the US whenever they can. We should have control of the law in our country, not have another decide for us. This is the reason Canada is weak. Right now your buddies are scooping up our fish, which through international law are owned by the source river, but oh but let’s not worry about that.
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Mr. Skwerrel,
What Emery has been doing is on the books as a crime in Canada and thus part of the treaty in place with the U.S. I would suggest that since the gov't allowed the DEA to come and fetch him, it is their intention to support the extradition proceedings.
The fact that he has never been charged in Canada is irrelevant, the law is on the books.
Bottom line, he is still screwed.
Mr. Skwerrel,
What Emery has been doing is on the books as a crime in Canada and thus part of the treaty in place with the U.S. I would suggest that since the gov't allowed the DEA to come and fetch him, it is their intention to support the extradition proceedings.
The fact that he has never been charged in Canada is irrelevant, the law is on the books.
Bottom line, he is still screwed.
Its is not irrelevant, their is a reason he hasn't been charged. They don't want to deal with the challenge, and the poltical fall out. I know I have seen many on here say he is hiding behind the Canadian government, but this just demonstrates how actually its our spinless Canadian politicians hiding behind the DEA. They haven't even introduced new legislation for MJ yet, because they are worried. There are some that say that since there isn't new legislation that MJ isn't illegal in Canada at present. This is due to the krieger and terry parker decisions.Ilovethemall said:
who said squirrels are dumb. I just think you guys need to relax, you look like every thing freaks out and you will have a heart attack at any moment. You never see a squirrel just relaxing on a sunny day, lazing around getting some sun on their tummy, they are always going places. Maybe this is where the expression "someone is going nuts" came from.Squirrel said:
He has been charged and have done time many times, just not for the sale of seeds.Ilovethemall said:
The question before me is this, if the seeds and the websites that these US cutomers purchased from are physically located in Canada. Then could one argue that these seeds were purchased in Canada? (Similar to stepping into a US embassy in Vancouver = you are on US soil temporarily). If so, he should not be extradicted as the alleged crime happened on Canadian soil. Mind you the delivery of these seeds to the US can still be considered trafficking, unless he can argue that he is merely sending them on behalf of the US customers (if the US customer pays the shipping and handling, then this should be in his favour). Should the US still wants a piece of the action they can go after the US customers.
