Looper never even happened ?

[the old maxx50]

I know it is a strange statement to make about a movie i just saw .. But that is what the ending did ..

Once I saw the ending i for got the whole movie ..

I loved it up to that point .. it was well made great charters and good story .. then it all ment nothing because the writer did not understand time travel .. and causality and changing the past . I know I have seen a number of time travel movies that screw up ,but they usually try and keep so sort of time line intact to allow the story to happen and only change the future .. this one really lost it has has a few others like Star Trek..

Time cop come to mind also .. but I think they cleared things up a little better .. Loopers did not give any explanation .. Like I said it just could never of happened ... So what did I just spend 2 hrs watching ...:doh:

 

[sevenofnine]

most sci fi or fantasy movies \

don't make any sense when you look at them in a scientific or logical sort of bent.

time travel intersellar travel all of that aliens coming here not any of that stands up in any real way when you look at the science behind it all.

its just fun, and if the charecters and the special effects are done well you never even think about it

 

[the old maxx50]

I all ways like well made SF movies , and i was really enjoying Loopers until the ending ,, . When it come to time travel movies ,, there is no authority on the science .. it is all speculation .. But there are rules that you still have to follow to give it some believability But if a character dies 30 years before he come back from the future .. and effects events before he dies .. Then none of the events that happened before he dies would of happened and none of the effects would remain after his death . and the events of the future would not of happened that cause him to come back in the first place .. IT really is a mind bender.. and if done right .. they can still pull it off .. THe writer / director in Looper . missed the mark on the ending .. which negates the whole story ,, no matter how well it was made ..

I like to be entertained , and my mind stimulated Here the story teller just did not know how to finish with any plausibility or was lazy .

 

[Frank Dux]

Thanks for the completely unavoidable spoiler right in the thread title, ass clown.

 

[87112]

Yeah, fuck this, I was looking foward to it.

 

[the old maxx50]

I ok sorry i gave way the ending .. But you had a chose of reading it or not .. THese day if you want to see a movie you run out see it as soon as you can .. because next week it is gone and you won't even remember it was here .

I don't real care who is in a movie or how flashy the special effects are . it all help sell a good story .. but it still has to be satisfying at the end. That why I go to see them .. Fewer and fewer SF are delivering .

Actually that is not a bad idea BJ ,, it a time traveler movie and they can release it with a number of different endings .. People go to see the movie and each time it is different .. It would drive movie goers nuts ,, when there friend say they saw a different ending ..


I can't help that i have a way with words and know how to coin a phrase .. buy I have to say i never heard the phrase , ass clown before but I think that belongs in a different thread .. maybe some thing to do with Greek. I am not sure what they are doing with their asses but it must b funny

 

[the old maxx50]

I have been reading what reviewer have wrote .. and so many just praise the shit out of this movie .. I say payola Or they just are ignoring the whole time thing .. because they are confused or can't even bother to think these days ..

But each to there own , you all may just love this movie because you are looking for something different then me .. It seem to be the same when i am looking for escorts to satisfy me also

 

[Kali.Kaos]

Wtf!?! Thanks for the spoiler.. Please change the subject title so more people won't be as disappointed as I am. At least now I may as well wait Til it comes to DVD/blueray.. Thanks for saving me 20 bucks I guess... :thumb:

 

[Devils_Advocate]

My mind was blown. Easily the best movie I've seen in the last few years.

Plus you can't go wrong with the lovely Emily Blunt.

 

[the old maxx50]

No i don't think i did .. the thread title just stats my opinion the story does not actually say that But if you know the story line there was only two ways this could go ... I would of picked the other ..

.It seem there are people here that think it is awesome and you just might think the same thing . , you may think it is the right ending . All I have said is the preemies ending is shit , the story and actors were great .. the 2 hrs went by fast.. and i liked a lot of it but when it came down to the final it was no longer a good time.

But don't go by what i wrote read some other reviews .

 

[Frank Dux]

Yes, you spoiled it in the title. Yes, it was spoiled for anyone reading the lounge. Good one.

 

[HankQuinlan]

Yes, you spoiled it somewhat. I went to see it and waiting to see what was meant by "it never happened." Bad Max. Do not but spoilers in thread titles, it is just wrong. You would be hounded from IMDB if you did that (which, by the way, has an 82% audience approval rating, so it isn't just the critics "being bought").

On the other hand, I disagree with you completely. It was a pretty decent sci-fi action movie with a lot to recommend it. Mmm...Emily Blunt. So, yeah, it is just you.

Time travel stories always have logical inconsistencies. The trick is to make the story go by without noticing it until after it is over. It is called "willing suspension of disbelief."

 

[future canadian]

SPOILER based on my belief of the ending. I believe he was looping continously. He knew he would kill his future self so future self tries to change the outcome when he goes back in time. I think he (present he) figured out he was in a no win situtation, so, at the end, he stops looping by killing himself. I think he thought he was noble by saving the kid but, I think, the kid still grows up to be who he will be in the future.

I should have opted for The Perks of Being a Wallflower.

 

[storm rider]

To the OP...yeah you fucked up and spoiled the movie...awfull jackass.

SR

 

[JClay]

As Jeff Daniels says in the movie, "This time travel crap just fries your brain like an egg."

Pretty telling synopsis, in the words of one of the damn characters. I half expected that he somehow banged his own mom and got her pregnant with himself and carried on into some mad infinite recursion, which would have made about as much sense as this mess. That said... It was a slick package, so as long as you can turn off your higher thought functions and ignore the giant glaring paradox that is the crux of the plot... you should enjoy it. Alas, I was unable to suspend my disbelief for the last half hour of the movie.

 

[the old maxx50]

As it tures out the trick to avoiding these paradoxes in to make a movie that only time travels in to the future where you no longer exist ,, and don't inter act with your self ever because that changes your memories ..

That is where Loopers loses all credibility the minute he did not kill him self, then every thing that was going to happen, the old guy would all ready know and they did not do that in the movie .. saying it is all fuzzy was not a good enough explanation ..

If you say this a loop that keeps repeating time after time .. why would the old guy had escaped every other time also and know that what he is going to do and plan a little better for what he knows is coming that same situation existed every time a looper escaped from them selves and it happened. ..
The moment i saw how bad there understanding of this fact was .. that when just forgot the whole film ( WELL I CAN'T ACTUALLY FOR GET IT BE CAUSE i DID SEE IT ) That clarify exactly what i am saying ..

For those that don;t want to get a head ache .. go see it and embrace its contrived morality tail. you will love the ending

Oh and i would like to agree with FC I think you are right by killing himself the future he changes is his own from that moment on .. He does not change the fact that some one was sending back Loopers to get killed .. Now if he did change the future ..ten he would never had been a Looper . and then never could of come back to cause all the events that lead to the change .. it that whole causality thing again that was totally forgotten in the story I am know it not any easy thing to run through and catching every interaction that would not had happened .. That moment that he died .. every thing would of rest back and nothing that had happened would of there would be no body no gold and silver lying around and no memory of him ever being there because he never live in the future to come back to make any thing happen .. Of course that is based on the liner time theory Then there is the one that all time exist at the same time and that there are alternate dimensions of time