Just an opinion.

[erotic_exotica]

I always come to https://perb.cc at least once a week just to see what’s going on………and do you know that in almost every thread I read there is some guy bitching and complaining about rates and restrictions.

I just want to take a minute to point something out to you guys.

Are you aware the you are renting someone’s body with the purpose of using it for your sexual pleasure? What do you think that is worth? I think for example $300/hr donation is more then reasonable for the purchase of my body. In fact I think that should be the standard rate. This is a purchase of a human being boys not a pizza. I don’t hear anyone complaining about the “too expensive” hockey tickets they got or a really cool pitt bull they wanted. However lets think about this, not only are these wonderful ladies giving up there bodies for you to poke and prod at , theirs also a mental element to consider as well. Because of the job we do, I, myself am aware that at least 90% of our beautiful ladies suffer with some type of problem weather or not they choose to admit it. Such as drug problems, alcohol, self-esteem, eating disorders ect. And this is not to say that they should fine another job,it`s just a consequence that goes with it
and I feel that maybe the gentlemen of this site should have a bit more compassion and respect for what the ladies do for you. I find it degrading to the female race to score them out of 10 and I know, I know that’s what this site is all about but is it necessary to completely destroy a women’s self worth? Now I do understand your frustration when you genuinely get ripped off, that’s never a good feeling. But are you really being ripped off if a lady, out of personal choice, chooses not to offer you something on the menu or just doesn’t perform something you would like. Maybe she doesn’t feel your clean enough or maybe your being disrespectful and there for she feels uneasy or perhaps she’s just having an off day (we’re all allowed to have those) Either way she doesn’t deserve to have her reputation tarnished. I think you should keep in mind that we put up with a lot in this business. Again that shouldn’t mean we have to find another job, I mean some have families to take care of . Should that mean if you have a bad day at work or theirs something you don’t like about your job that you should find another job? No! cause it pays the rent, right? And let me tell you almost all the sp’s I have ever met are very educated and intelligent, I`m sure you’ve met one or two yourselves. And some plainly choose to do this because the money is better. So the moral of this post is simply an opinion that I wanted to share. Maybe you agree and maybe you don’t and that’s your right, as it is mine. Basically I’d just like to see men state how much he paid and what he received for his fee and leave it up to another to form their own opinion if it’s a good price for them or not.
I certainly don’t feel that you should demean anyone’s worth by stating that an sp’s price is too high.

 

[SexyBoy]

This forum has stopped a lot of SP's from overpricing. The rates have been set at most MP now.

Talking about the price is the other half of the sex trade.

I know a lot of SP's in Winnipeg that are more then happy with $.20-$.5/hr

Work for most is not fun no matter what you do. There are ups and downs to every job.

20/hr is a 40k job if you got paid 300/hr and worked as many hours as everyone else that would be 600k a year. I doubt you make that much.

A GF of mine only charged 120/hr and she did make over 200k a year. More then enough for anyone’s body. It was tax free! She did have a small company to declare income to get a cc etc.

If you really think your body is worth more then charge more. Let the market decide.

Once again price is a huge topic and one of the reasons this board even exists.

Of course we need to rate on looks we are paying for something physical.

If you don't like it then don't read it. If you want your price to be higher then go for it. If no one comes because they went else where too bad.

Some girls are worth it because of many reasons. That is another reason for the ESCORT REVIEW BOARD.

I should change my rates because I think my time, education, hardwork, is worth more! Who doesn't say that? I give a great deal of myself to what I do a lot of people do. Working your way to the top is not a easy task. I think you have it easy. Then again most people think the other person does.

Another question is why are you a SP? Become something else if it is so bad. Do what I had to do.

Do you know how many pizzas I could get for $300!

 

[littlejimbigher]

People complain about canuck ticket prices, the cost of a beer at a game and many other things. Most that find them too high don't partake. I go to Lions games but won't pay for beer there.

Same with SP's. Some are worth the $300 others are not. Think the Canucks verses the Giants. Major leagues verses the minors. Most gals I see listed on CL are minor league players who want major league prices. The want the top price without the service. The gal I called Tuesday wanted $250/hr with no kissing or DATY. I can get some of the better SPs for that price and those things included.

 

[sinfulsydnee]

I have to say I agree with the gentlemen on this one...this review board is a way for them to determine who they want to see...same as checking out the consumer reviews for cars, golf clubs, computers, etc...

yes, we are human, yes, we are giving them part of our emotional make up but the bottom line is that we choose to offer them these parts of ourselves...that is our chosen profession...to say that you think $300/hr should be a standardized rate is idealistic on your part...first of all, services, geography, location ambience, and other non-physical components factor in....secondly, if your market will only bear $200/hr you are going to be sitting alone a lot...and finally, if you are only in this business for the money, then you will not last long...you have to love what you do...if you don't, it will be apparent and your clients will not want to see you after the first or second time...

now, this is not to say that you shouldn't be able to charge extra for certain services that require more of you either physically or from a supply perspective - but this would not be something every client would ask for...

just my 2 bits

 

[SexyBoy]

That's a great post and very well said.

Sorry if we poke and prod...

I don't want to be with a woman that doesn't enjoy it and the thread starter doesn't.

No man wants to hear this.

If it is true that every SP feels this way its time to stop paying for it altogether and find girls that do it for free.

I am normally to impatient but this surely gives me motivation.

 

[bothmog]

I Agree with Hatrick

I think it is quite simple. The service is worth exactly what we are willing to pay for it. If a lady can get $500 for every hour of her time, then that is what she is worth. Don't worry, if nobody goes to see her at $500, the price will drop accordingly. I agree also that we should stop bitching about it. Find the level of price/service that is right for you and enjoy. If you want the $500 girl, you pay or you don't play.

 

[SexyBoy]

I have to say I agree with the gentlemen on this one...this review board is a way for them to determine who they want to see...same as checking out the consumer reviews for cars, golf clubs, computers, etc...

yes, we are human, yes, we are giving them part of our emotional make up but the bottom line is that we choose to offer them these parts of ourselves...that is our chosen profession...to say that you think $300/hr should be a standardized rate is idealistic on your part...first of all, services, geography, location ambience, and other non-physical components factor in....secondly, if your market will only bear $200/hr you are going to be sitting alone a lot...and finally, if you are only in this business for the money, then you will not last long...you have to love what you do...if you don't, it will be apparent and your clients will not want to see you after the first or second time...

now, this is not to say that you shouldn't be able to charge extra for certain services that require more of you either physically or from a supply perspective - but this would not be something every client would ask for...

just my 2 bits

Now there is a reason too keep pooning!

I know of some SP's that like their clients so much that they feel bad for charging.

I do like to pay for sex it is a fetish I dislike being taken advantage of.

 

[SexyBoy]

I think it is quite simple. The service is worth exactly what we are willing to pay for it. If a lady can get $500 for every hour of her time, then that is what she is worth. Don't worry, if nobody goes to see her at $500, the price will drop accordingly. I agree also that we should stop bitching about it. Find the level of price/service that is right for you and enjoy. If you want the $500 girl, you pay or you don't play.

Talking about it openly does help figure out what is acceptable in your area.

Before this board was here the rates were all over the place. Even SP's couldn't figure out why they were not making any money.

Even at MP there are girls that charge differant prices. The women dislike like it when one girl gets more then the other. Some even lie to the other girls telling them that they get paid more then they actually do. Then they get more clients lol.

 

[steverino]

My thoughts Erotic Exotica

I don't much care how women determine the price, it is up to them. What ladies must realize is that pricing from the pooners perspective is viewed not as a one time shot but a hobby. If a pooner was to partake once a week then $300 equates to about $16,000 a year after tax money meaning you need to earn about $25,000 to cover the costs. You can do the math for varying levels of pooning.

 

[sinfulsydnee]

Now there is a reason too keep pooning!

I know of some SP's that like their clients so much that they feel bad for charging.

I do like to pay for sex it is a fetish I dislike being taken advantage of.

you raise a good point PartyBoyToy

I have a couple of clients that leave me so "orgasmed out" I feel I should be paying them...fortunately for me, they refuse so I don't put myself out of business...LOL

I have other clients who I have become good friends with and although they certainly still pay for sessions, we also spend time together doing things like shopping, going for lunch etc in which there is no charge - in fact, I have even picked up the tab at my insistance!!

I truly appreciate my clients and the ones who I classify as friends would never even consider asking me to lower my session rates for them...just as I would never take advantage of them bi simply bumping up my rates because I know they will pay them...

 

[payforplay]

I always come to https://perb.cc at least once a week just to see what’s going on………and do you know that in almost every thread I read there is some guy bitching and complaining about rates and restrictions.

I just want to take a minute to point something out to you guys.

Are you aware the you are renting someone’s body with the purpose of using it for your sexual pleasure? What do you think that is worth? I think for example $300/hr donation is more then reasonable for the purchase of my body. In fact I think that should be the standard rate. This is a purchase of a human being boys not a pizza. I don’t hear anyone complaining about the “too expensive” hockey tickets they got or a really cool pitt bull they wanted. However lets think about this, not only are these wonderful ladies giving up there bodies for you to poke and prod at , theirs also a mental element to consider as well. Because of the job we do, I, myself am aware that at least 90% of our beautiful ladies suffer with some type of problem weather or not they choose to admit it. Such as drug problems, alcohol, self-esteem, eating disorders ect. And this is not to say that they should fine another job,it`s just a consequence that goes with it
and I feel that maybe the gentlemen of this site should have a bit more compassion and respect for what the ladies do for you. I find it degrading to the female race to score them out of 10 and I know, I know that’s what this site is all about but is it necessary to completely destroy a women’s self worth? Now I do understand your frustration when you genuinely get ripped off, that’s never a good feeling. But are you really being ripped off if a lady, out of personal choice, chooses not to offer you something on the menu or just doesn’t perform something you would like. Maybe she doesn’t feel your clean enough or maybe your being disrespectful and there for she feels uneasy or perhaps she’s just having an off day (we’re all allowed to have those) Either way she doesn’t deserve to have her reputation tarnished. I think you should keep in mind that we put up with a lot in this business. Again that shouldn’t mean we have to find another job, I mean some have families to take care of . Should that mean if you have a bad day at work or theirs something you don’t like about your job that you should find another job? No! cause it pays the rent, right? And let me tell you almost all the sp’s I have ever met are very educated and intelligent, I`m sure you’ve met one or two yourselves. And some plainly choose to do this because the money is better. So the moral of this post is simply an opinion that I wanted to share. Maybe you agree and maybe you don’t and that’s your right, as it is mine. Basically I’d just like to see men state how much he paid and what he received for his fee and leave it up to another to form their own opinion if it’s a good price for them or not.
I certainly don’t feel that you should demean anyone’s worth by stating that an sp’s price is too high.

To begin...of course we are aware we are renting out sp`s for pleasure, how could we not, there is a price tag involved.

Secondly, sp`s with drug and alcohol problems, eating disorders etc,. need to take responsibility for their own lives and get healthy. It`s a cop out to blame the hobby for the existence of such problems.

Third, as for the issue of rating sp`s on looks, performance etc,. How else do you propose clients are to make a decision on who to see? Men judge women in the civvie world too based on looks etc,. We are attracted to physical beauty.

I think you need to present better reasons why men should accept a standardized price of $300 for the services of an sp. Untill then....let the market prevail

 

[JFF009]

Not really sure why this garnered so much attention.
If you think you are worth 300 then charge 300.
You are running a business. If the market will bear a higher rate then giddy-up but please don't get pissed at the consumers for trying to get a better deal. I agree with Tuula on this one, I would never hassle an SP about their rate. If they are asking more than I want to spend then I thank them for their time and tell them to have a nice day. Isn't that the way we shop for everything in our lives. If one provider charges more than we want to pay then we move on to the next.

 

[sinfulsydnee]

The other comment about the rates - no not all ladies may be worth to you what they are charging, but that's just your opinion. And I'll explain a little more in depth from MY perspective, if you call me and ask my rate and then tell me it's too expensive or too pricey, I don't want to hear that, because I wouldn't charge it if I couldn't get it. If it's not in your budget, then it's not in your budget, just simply say, thank you for your time, maybe I'll call you back at another time or something a long those lines (just be polite). Don't tell me, oh well you're too expensive for me, can you give me a better deal, is that the best price you got? etc. etc. because alot of guys do that.

now this is also a great point...if a woman's rate is not in your budget...don't call her...I too get calls like that where the gentleman asks if he can either have extra time for the same rate or would I lower my rate for him because he can promise me a "good time" - this is not acceptable behaviour and I will not tolerate those calls...while I certainly agree that we have to determine our rates based on the market and our own sense of value, don't dicker around with me once that rate is set...I'm not a car dealership looking to make a sale...

 

[SexyBoy]

I personally like to have a regular or two. When I get one I do start to want a better price. I also start wanting to do other things besides just sex.

I don't want her as a gf.

What should I do if I don't ask?

Avarice I hate to break it too ya but there are girls that don't charge much and give great service in a nice place.

A lot of men just don't know where to look or how to ask.

Some of us don't like to give that info out. Some men insist on the SP raising her price so why tell them about that deal. The SP is happy I am happy it’s all good.


One of the best places for finding a good SP is EB/TO in Winnipeg. They normally only get 60-80 for a cbj. You get a attractive guy that pays more you do fs at her place or yours. Everyone is happy.

 

[erotic_exotica]

Thank you Tuula2 you got what I was putting down. I think some of you have raised some great points but most of you have completely missed the point. Just because you may not find a sp's pricing reasonable should we come on here and tell everyone that she a rip off or not worth what she's charging? All I meant was that maybe it not fare to say that she not worth it after all she is a person. We all have different skills and offer different menu's. Who the hell am I to sit here and judge weather anyone is worth it. I'd just like to see men be a little more respectful in their reviews is all. If you don't like her prices then move on. Cause there will always be someone else who will pay.

 

[uncleg]

Thank you Tuula2 you got what I was putting down. I think some of you have raised some great points but most of you have completely missed the point. Just because you may not find a sp's pricing reasonable should we come on here and tell everyone that she a rip off or not worth what she's charging? All I meant was that maybe it not fare to say that she not worth it after all she is a person. We all have different skills and offer different menu's. Who the hell am I to sit here and judge weather anyone is worth it. I'd just like to see men be a little more respectful in their reviews is all. If you don't like her prices then move on. Cause there will always be someone else who will pay.

Maybe, you are missing the point being made in some of the reviews you're on about. If I find an SP's pricing unreasonable for what is being sought/offered, I'll move on, but, and I think this is where the reviews you're complaining about come from, if the SP does not live up to the service sought/promised, then the client has every right to slag the SP in question. If the SP is not worth it, then what does being a person have to do with it? You said it yourself, you are a person selling a service, the use of your time, mind and body for somebody else's gratification. To use the car dealer analogy, if I am promised a Cadillac, I don't want to be handed a Malibu at the same rate and be told it's just as good. The respect goes both ways, if you disrespect the client, why should he respect you ? Because you are a person, a woman, no I don't think so, because you are also a business, and you either have respect for how well a business is run, or you don't. It's not like I can go to the Better Business Bureau if I have a complaint about an SP, this Board is pretty well it.

 

[Guardian Angel]

I personally like to have a regular or two. When I get one I do start to want a better price. I also start wanting to do other things besides just sex.

QUOTE]
When I meet a lady who becomes my regular, I am the opposite, I tend to tip more, because I appreciate our YMMV. I know I could be paying for the same thing another guy is getting for less, but that is just my way of saying thank you.

I also like to do other things besides the sex, but I am restricted to how much of that I can actually manage.

G.A.

 

[sinfulsydnee]

I'm sorry if I'm getting carried away here (someone spank me lol), AND I DO LOVE MY JOB, SPANK ME FUCK ME ,,,, WHATEVER LOL

I'll do it!! I'll do it!!!!

 

[sinfulsydnee]

LOL, you bring it on girl anytime, I'm game, I'm always down for a fine lady spanking my full round ass! Amongst other things ..... ahem, ahem pardon the cough. lol Oh and hey if I squirt on you cuz I get too excited, take it as a compliment lmao

Getting squirted on I always take as a compliment...in fact, I'd expect no less...

 

[erotic_exotica]

Ok so you all have some really great OPINIONS out there. Let me just clear something up. I DO think that $300/hr should be the standered, but is that our reality? NO! so what am I going to charge? The standered rates we realisticly have. (my statment was just an OPINION)But am I worth it? For the right gentlemen, hell ya! I think all of you are worth it! I would never put none of you down because you don't look like David Hasslehoff/Brittney Spears or because you care about your health and there for choose to use protection. I would never tell someone they are not worth it. Like I said earlier we all offer different menu's and have different skills. Another thing is, I don't feel that my post reflects that I hate my job, the message I was tring to send is we don't need to destroy a women worth. I don't think we need to insult and put people down. Or maybe I'm wrong. Maybe thats exactly what this board is for.