John Kerry: Building 7 Was Deliberately Demolished

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SilkyJohnson

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hes talking about the remains of building 7 being brought down by demo.

obviously the whole building was brought down with explosives, no building would ever collapse that fast no matter what u did to it, unless u had well placed demo charges all going off at the same time.......

I wonder if Thigman has found the 757 at the Pentagon yet
 
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So... the building was badly damaged and they brought it down in a controlled way instead of letting a 47 story building fall in a random direction.

And this is a problem because...?

All this talk about it taking 'weeks to plan' to bring down a building is crap. IF you are a demolition company with access to commercial explosives and you have all the time you want, sure, why not take a week or two to plan and use less explosives and save some $$ etc etc...

But, if you're the US army engineering corps and you have all the C4 or thermite etc you need, and cost isn't a factor, of course you can bring down a building with only a couple of hours of planning.

Much ado about nothing...
 
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So... the building was badly damaged and they brought it down in a controlled way instead of letting a 47 story building fall in a random direction.

And this is a problem because...?...
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Sorry but you are mistaken. THe buildong was hardly what you could call "badly damaged" and had a few small, isolated fires. Sure, you can blow the crap outta anything with C4 but in order to make a building come down like it did (into its own footprint) you have to carefully plan where the explosives are placed, wire them all to the detonator/timer to make sure that they all go off in the order that they're supposed to and they also sever many of the load bearing members before places charges on the remaining ones. It's not the bridge over the river Kwai, it's a 47 story building!

You see, supports all have to be cut by the explosives at or near the same time in order for the building to drop. You'd also blow the center columns a half a second beofre the outside ones to get it to fall inwards. A similar process is done to make it fall vertically in a controlled fashion. Otherwise, part of it still stands (look at the Murrah building in Oklahoma city). This building had an external steel skeleton (unlike WTC 1&2) and several additional internal columns because it had to span over (sh*t, was it a subway station or a power generation facility?) something.

At minimum, it would take DAYS! Add to this the factor of the building being on fire and you have a serious problem. It doesn't take weeks to plan but weeks to execute. Granted, several of the weeks are consumed by clearing the building of everything extra like non-load bearing walls, windows, etc. but the actual rigging of something like this would take days at minimum; it's a lot of individual charges we're speaking of here.

I'm sure a little Googling will clear up your misunderstanding of how and why it takes awhile to bring down a building.

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hes talking about the remains of building 7 being brought down by demo.
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No, he's talking about what we all saw on the TV; an intact building falling into its footprint at near free-fall speed. Did you watch this on TV? There were no remains to be brought down!
 
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jjinvan said:
So... the building was badly damaged and they brought it down in a controlled way instead of letting a 47 story building fall in a random direction.

If you're the US army engineering corps and you have all the C4 or thermite etc you need, and cost isn't a factor, of course you can bring down a building with only a couple of hours of planning.
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The building was badly damaged? Then why was everybody so suprised when it collapsed as it was untouched by fire and falling debris? Besides, if the building was in fact badly damaged, why would they let a Team of Military Engineers inside and put their lives at risk. I highly doubt that charges would be able to be scouted, drilled, installed and detonated in a couple of hours. Even if they had all the architects who designed the building on hand it would still take days of preparation just for the installation.
 
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henryhill said:
The building was badly damaged? Then why was everybody so suprised when it collapsed as it was untouched by fire and falling debris? Besides, if the building was in fact badly damaged, why would they let a Team of Military Engineers inside and put their lives at risk. I highly doubt that charges would be able to be scouted, drilled, installed and detonated in a couple of hours. Even if they had all the architects who designed the building on hand it would still take days of preparation just for the installation.
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Exactly Henryhill!
 
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MI6 neadquarters is prewired with demo charges, so it can be brought down instantly. get rid off all those secrets pretty fast

WTC 7 housed FBI, CIA and all the other spook agencies, after conducting an op like 9/11 u'd have to destroy most of the evidence and WTC 7 was where they planned it.
 
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jjinvan said:
Suppose there wasn't a plane....
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or, just suppose there was a missile. A van-bomb would have caused a lot more damage at initial detonation than a missile would have. But not nearly as significant penetration.

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The thing is, aren't there a bunch of witnesses who actually SAW a plane? Did the government spike all their kool-aid or something?
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I have never heard that there were any witness' who saw a plane. Just a whole bunch of people who claim they heard and saw a low-flying missile.
 
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jjinvan said:
By the way, when it comes to the pentagon/plane thing, here's a little theory that makes a bit more sense than them blowing up part of the pentagon themselves:

Suppose there wasn't a plane, suppose instead that it was a guy with a van full of explosives who managed to get in close enough and set it off. IF they let that story out, CNN and all the other news agencies would go over it in soooo much detail that it would basically be a blueprint of "How to attack a US high security facility with a truck bomb". So, they shrug, say "It was another plane" and keep the details away from the media.

The thing is, aren't there a bunch of witnesses who actually SAW a plane? Did the government spike all their kool-aid or something?
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Well, there are many who saw a plane. Many of those saw a smaller plane. The problem with the van is the same as the problem with the plane - nothing outside of the building. Also, IIRC, the hole went through to to "C" ring (through 2 and into the third ring.)
 
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With all due respect you can't really be serious about this. Why don't you focus on something more plausible like the moon landing being filmed in a warehouse in Kansas or that Elvis is working as a greeter at a Walmart in Biloxi.
 
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stormy said:
With all due respect you can't really be serious about this. Why don't you focus on something more plausible like the moon landing being filmed in a warehouse in Kansas or that Elvis is working as a greeter at a Walmart in Biloxi.
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and UFOs unloading crate after crate of bigfoots.
 
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So the 2 largest buildiings in the world collapse into dust at freefall speed and u still think jet fuel did it? If u believe that i got a fire breathing, 3 legged unicorn i have for sale
 
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SilkyJohnson said:
just some facts brought up by Physics professors and other "experts"
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I have just read what these so-called "physics professors" have written in their articles and haven't see so much bull in my life. Interesting how they can twist the facts to suit their hypothisis by disregarding basic engineering principles.

As I have always maintained. Physisists know dick about engineering. LOL
 
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I have just read what these so-called "physics professors" have written in their articles and haven't see so much bull in my life. Interesting how they can twist the facts to suit their hypothisis by disregarding basic engineering principles.

As I have always maintained. Physisists know dick about engineering. LOL
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now that is some ignorance, what would phsyics profs know?!?!?!?
 
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Here is a rant I ripped from www.ehowa.com




April 24, 2005

Let's Put This To Rest, Shall We?
Okay, another rant about something that's been irking me for a few years: 9/11 conspiracy theories. Those assholes that believe no, the acts of September 11th were not the result of terrorists, but were the result of some super secret government plot to erode our civil liberties and justify the bombing of a select group of oil rich countries. There have been many scientific approaches to both prove and disprove these theories, even the fucking French have joined the fray. Now this site isn't alone, there's a shit load of them out there. The former of the two sides has been put into a nice flash file which you can view here (http://www.pentagonstrike.co.uk/). Go ahead, I'll wait...



And on the flip side, we have just as many people offering scientific proof that a Boeing 757 did in fact crash into the Pentagon...

But no matter how convincing one side can be there is still one irrefutable truth to both side -- they're both theorized by armchair quarterbacks who still eat cereal in their mother's basement. Sure, maybe one of them took a few classes at an aeronautical school. Maybe one of their cousin's former roommate's nephews, son's, priest's babysitter did in fact see (not see) a jetliner scream down Washington DC streets. Whatever.

And so it is here today, that I, Ernie, Lord of the Internet, shall put all 9/11 conspiracies to bed. I will give you irrefutable proof that 9/11 was in fact NOT a government conspiracy; and certainly not one orchestrated by GWB. Even the most skeptical of conspiracy theorists will shake their heads as they know they can not challenge my rock solid argument. I will do all of this with two simple words. Are you ready? Are you ready for my foundation shaking proof? Here it is.

Monica. Lewinsky.

Yep, you heard me correctly, I said Monica fucking Lewinsky.

So, you might ask, just how does this golden cocksucker have anything to do with this nation's largest tragedy of modern times? I'll explain, you poor simpleton. First let us compare the two presidents who were in office for each of these events: William J. Clinton and George W. Bush. The former is one smooooooth fucking operator. Love him or hate him, you have to admit Clinton was smooth. That motherfucker could sell ice to eskimos. He stood before the entire country and convinced us that without a doubt, he did not have sexual relations with that woman. And fucking-a, I sure believed him. Shit, we all did! Clinton was extremely intelligent, he was powerful, the economy was booming, and above all else he was smooooooth. And even the leftest of the left and the rightest of the right will agree, that Clinton outclasses GWB in pretty much all of these departments. Think about it, they call GWB "Dubya" and Clinton "Slick Willie" - you do the math.

And if that poor motherfucker couldn't get away with getting a simple blowjob from a fat chick, without the entire country finding out about it, then there's no fucking way in hell that GWB could pull off the biggest mass murder in American history. Period.

So please, lose the grassy knoll shit. Stop taking x-rays of jet engines. And someone tell Charlie Sheen to stop pretending to be someone else and get back to doing what he does best - not fucking Denise Richards. Because despite all the fluff than anyone can heap on, it all breaks down to if Clinton couldn't stay off CNN after five months for a simple blowjob, there's absolutely no fucking way any plot by GWB could stay hidden after five years. By now someone involved would have talked. A missile operator. A remote control pilot. An explosives expert. Somebody. SO face it - 9/11 was what it was; a terrorist attack. End of story.
 
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not to mention GWB didnt do it, SMALL ELEMENTS WITHIN the US GOVT commited the act covering it with drills and NORAD standing down, same with 7/7 in London. drills then oh shit the real thing happens, AL-CIAda is 2 steps ahead i guess.....

i bet u Deny Presscott Bush (GWB's grandfather) didnt finance Hitler, with Avril Harriman, Rockefellers, Fords...

http://www.guardian.co.uk/usa/story/0,12271,1312540,00.html

http://ecosyn.us/Bush-Hitler/

and heres what David Rockefeller has to say "We're grateful to The Washington Post, The New York Times, Time Magazine and other great publications whose directors have attended our meetings and respected their promises of discretion for almost forty years. It would have been impossible for us to develop our plan for the world if we had been subject to the bright lights of publicity during those years. But the world is now more sophisticated and prepared to march towards a world government."

"For more than a century, ideological extremists at either end of the political spectrum have seized upon well-publicized incidents to attack the Rockefeller family for the inordinate influence they claim we wield over American political and economic institutions. Some even believe we are part of a secret cabal working against the best interest of the United States, characterizing my family and me as 'internationalists ' and of conspiring with others around the world to build a more integrated global political and economic structure - one world, if you will. If that's the charge, I stand guilty, and I am proud of it."

http://www.stopthenorthamericanunion.com/TreasonAbounds.html
 
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