I'm not making reference to anyone in particular (so please don't be offended). However, I was browsing through some of the advertisement websites such as Eros, CityVibe, Localescorts etc and found that there are quite a few SPs that must be insane. Talk about being totally overpriced... In contrast Ingrid charges $300 as well, but she's fucking hot... I'd gladly pay $400 to have a session with her... But if your a nasty ass chick, why the hell do you charge the same price... what gives???
Is it just me or are some SPs grossly over priced?
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Obviously everyone has different tastes however i'm sure there is a general concensus as to what is considered beautiful which apply to most people. For example, since we live in a western society we can easily define what is beautiful and desireable by examining the media portral of women in magazines such as Maxim or Playboy... Hence women that resemble them would be considered by most to be beautiful. Of course this doesn't apply to everyone but life is about statistics and the majority wins.lebagyptian said:
I admire how you immediately jump to the defense of your peers. However, this was more appropriately directed to other pooners. It would be bias for you to reply since we do not share your experience or know what you have to go through to perform your job. I'm sure I will never truly understand the risks involved which help justify the rates that are charged.
For the record I think you are gourgeous, well reviewed, and young to boot, so I'm sure whatever you charge is fair for what you have to offer...
Fair?
And, what exactly makes you think you have the right to decide what any SP's time is worth? I would think that since she is the owner of the 'goodies', it's her right to decide what they are worth. If you don't want to pay, mind your own f*cking business and don't play with her.
Yeesh, I am sooo tired of the 'it costs to much to poon threads'. Any hobby can be expensive, gardening, electric trains, aquariums, stamp collecting, beanie babies...whatever. If you can't afford the hobby, any hobby, don't get into it!
There, that feels better
What the fuck are you talking about you flaming homo... firstly, I never said I was too expensive to poon... and secondly, this is a discussion board which is exactly what I'm doing, discussing a topic I find relevant... take your own advice you retarded tool... if you don't want to get "pissed" off with threads like this then don't click on it...dakota30 said:And, what exactly makes you think you have the right to decide what any SP's time is worth? I would think that since she is the owner of the 'goodies', it's her right to decide what they are worth. If you don't want to pay, mind your own f*cking business and don't play with her.
Yeesh, I am sooo tired of the 'it costs to much to poon threads'. Any hobby can be expensive, gardening, electric trains, aquariums, stamp collecting, beanie babies...whatever. If you can't afford the hobby, any hobby, don't get into it!
There, that feels better
There, that feels better
so now I'm a homo...reeeaaallly? Do your homework before you shoot off at the lip sunshine!
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now aint that special..if you're going to post on this subject you're going to get all sorts of opinions , from sp's and pooners..if you don't want that then don't post the "discussion" ..just my .02 cents..now I guess you're going to call me a flaming homo for that one..lol well although you'd be wrong at least you would get the GENDER correct the second time No your not a flaming homo.. your just a Danny Devito fanchuck1561 said:WTF
oooh, clever come back dino, but did you get it yet that I am not a flaming homo? Let me draw you a picture...of me...with boobies...and no naughty bits that dangle. Give it up Dude, the best thing you can do right now is apologize for the name calling and drive on.
I think it also depends on whether the girl is with an agency or not..
When I was with BC Escorts, they were making me charge 300/hr. Of course, I only kept half of this.
When I was with BC Escorts, they were making me charge 300/hr. Of course, I only kept half of this.
It's all relative imo. An sp's time is worth whatever you think it's worth. If the sp disagrees with you, then sorry buddy, find someone else who does agree with you. There are some smoking hot women out there that chip at pro-ing and charge very little, as it is not their main source of income, merely a quick fix to a short term financial hardship. Other sp's do this for a living, and therefore just like in any business strive for "the going rate". Of course it is more than most of us "want" to pay, but that's the reality of the world we live in. For instance, most of us have had our car serviced by a friend of a friend of a friend for a cheaper rate than garages charge, but they do not have the overhead that the garages do. Whine to a mechanic at a garage that he charges too much, and what do you think his response will be? Also, the "going rate" sp's may make the same as sp's that charge less, but only have to do half of the work. Wouldn't you love it if you had that option in your career? If you don't want the convenience of how to get in touch with the indies, escorts and mp girls, then go through the tedious tasks of trying to find an sp that will charge less. I for one would never pay the rates that Babybelle is seeking. Does that mean she doesn't deserve it or doesn't earn her pay? I am sure this board would be devided in their answers. I personally can't justify paying that much for any sexual act(s), so I do not partake in Babybelle's, or any other sp with similar rates, services. Others would say I am crazy for passing on the opportunity. It's all relative. Sorry for singling out your name BB, you were just the one who came to mind as your post is above mine. I don't think anyone is right or wrong here, so maybe we can all just agree to disagree. These kinds of conversations can be really interesting if we can keep the insults and the provocations at bay.
Ok, Im a newbie, but heres my take.
When I lived in B.C I would see the same one sp over and over again. her rates were on the lower side of average. The reason I never strayed or saw others was that she had a fairly consistant client base of 7/8 people. Price was nver the issue . To me I felt safe, I had never worried about STd's or passing the next client at the door on my way out.
Now that i have moved and can no longer see her. I have seen 3 sp's and for the most part I was ok with with each session some were better than others but the service was on average the same. But I felt more at ease with myself when I paid more $ for the service. Not because Im rich but because in my minds eye I believed that this sp was not offering a revolving door service.
Im not saying that the lower priced sp's are any less safe then the more expensive ones. But for Me I geuss I like to believe that if a particular sp charges $400 per visit she would need to see far less clients to make a living than an sp who charges $100 per visit.
please people dont disillussion me on this... I like my hooby
best regards, and thanks for the great community
When I lived in B.C I would see the same one sp over and over again. her rates were on the lower side of average. The reason I never strayed or saw others was that she had a fairly consistant client base of 7/8 people. Price was nver the issue . To me I felt safe, I had never worried about STd's or passing the next client at the door on my way out.
Now that i have moved and can no longer see her. I have seen 3 sp's and for the most part I was ok with with each session some were better than others but the service was on average the same. But I felt more at ease with myself when I paid more $ for the service. Not because Im rich but because in my minds eye I believed that this sp was not offering a revolving door service.
Im not saying that the lower priced sp's are any less safe then the more expensive ones. But for Me I geuss I like to believe that if a particular sp charges $400 per visit she would need to see far less clients to make a living than an sp who charges $100 per visit.
please people dont disillussion me on this... I like my hooby
best regards, and thanks for the great community
Good points budar, a coffee at a greasy spoon is much cheaper than Starbucks , but that doesn't mean Starbucks should lower their prices, it just means you should choose what you prefer based on your own standards.
I don't know if I believe that girls who charge 3 bills can be negotiated down though. Just because someone on the phone wanting a better price than her regulars already pay is annoying and IMHO bad luck.
I find that people calling for a deal are high mileage/MSOG/frugal types and likely to be more work than someone paying full price. I never bargain and in fact won't see people who try to push my price down, I'll just wait 20 min for another call. Now I just say politely "you get what you pay for, I certainly don't mind if you call around looking for a better price."
I did have one bad call from a guy insisting I charge too much who, when asked out of curiosity, suggested my half hour rate was more "appropriate" for my hour massage. I thought it was pretty funny and offered to pro rate it (ie 40 min, 50 min rates) but he was adamant and kept asking for my lowest price which my lowest price was full price. He asked me 5 more times and I almost had to hang up (I was too polite to) but by the end of the convo I wasn't willing to see him at all. It wouldn't be fair to my other customers and I wasn't desperate. Desperation may increase the odds, but do you really want to see an SP who is desperate?
'you get what you pay for'
unfortunately, too often, you don't.
pay for an hour and get tossed 20 minutes early ... was that what i paid for?
get treated like a diseased corpse ... was that what i paid for?
have her lay there like a cpr dummy until its over ... was that what i paid for?
one of the best experiences i ever had was with a woman i picked up outside a night club who was looking for money to keep partying and quoted me $60 for the cbj of my life ... young, great body, even better attitude, and phenomenal service with the bonus that she decided that she wanted more and offerred full service for no extra charge!
never saw her again anywhere ... but what a bonus!
the problem with the cost is not the cost: it is the attitude and services (or lack thereof) of many sp's who charge just as much, if not more, than the ones who really do go all the way in providing a service!
I don't expect every sp to charge me what that sp did that one time ... but there are many who aren't even worth what that one did charge me ...
and there are others who could ask a lot more!
but there is no fucking way that anyone can tell me that i ever get what i pay for in this business ... because the number of times i haven't out weighs by far the number of times i have!
unfortunately, too often, you don't.
pay for an hour and get tossed 20 minutes early ... was that what i paid for?
get treated like a diseased corpse ... was that what i paid for?
have her lay there like a cpr dummy until its over ... was that what i paid for?
one of the best experiences i ever had was with a woman i picked up outside a night club who was looking for money to keep partying and quoted me $60 for the cbj of my life ... young, great body, even better attitude, and phenomenal service with the bonus that she decided that she wanted more and offerred full service for no extra charge!
never saw her again anywhere ... but what a bonus!
the problem with the cost is not the cost: it is the attitude and services (or lack thereof) of many sp's who charge just as much, if not more, than the ones who really do go all the way in providing a service!
I don't expect every sp to charge me what that sp did that one time ... but there are many who aren't even worth what that one did charge me ...
and there are others who could ask a lot more!
but there is no fucking way that anyone can tell me that i ever get what i pay for in this business ... because the number of times i haven't out weighs by far the number of times i have!
When it comes to hookers, its totally buyer beware.
To pickup a paper, look at the classifieds, and call up a girl based on her ad is ridiculous. Theres many girls that are complete scammers. Theyre nothing like the ad promised and theyre all about getting the most money from you for the least amount of time and work for them.
Boards like PERB are sort of like a better business bureau for escorting. A little homework can you save you money and keep your from having bad experiences.
Unfortunately, many men dont do their homework and let these scammers continue to operate and make money at it.
As for overpriced girls in general, its up to you as the client to decide where to spend your money.
Theres a lot of women out there that charge $300 an hour that I wouldnt touch for $80 an hour. Theres also girls that charge $300 that Id pay $500 to fuck.
Bottom line is do your homework. You can still find some hidden gems that charge less than what they could. Thats one of the problems with these boards. Most guys wont share info on any hidden gems they find. Rightly so because youd quickly see an increase in the her rates.
To pickup a paper, look at the classifieds, and call up a girl based on her ad is ridiculous. Theres many girls that are complete scammers. Theyre nothing like the ad promised and theyre all about getting the most money from you for the least amount of time and work for them.
Boards like PERB are sort of like a better business bureau for escorting. A little homework can you save you money and keep your from having bad experiences.
Unfortunately, many men dont do their homework and let these scammers continue to operate and make money at it.
As for overpriced girls in general, its up to you as the client to decide where to spend your money.
Theres a lot of women out there that charge $300 an hour that I wouldnt touch for $80 an hour. Theres also girls that charge $300 that Id pay $500 to fuck.
Bottom line is do your homework. You can still find some hidden gems that charge less than what they could. Thats one of the problems with these boards. Most guys wont share info on any hidden gems they find. Rightly so because youd quickly see an increase in the her rates.
Get what you pay for is such a subjective term though. Massagesegirl stated that she likes to give you what you pay for, but what you feel I "should" get versus what I believe I should get may be a little ways apart in the mileage category. That's what makes that term a bit of a red herring. Now if I were to visit massagegirl I would know beforehand exactly what she provides and what the cost of that service is. I can either say forget it, I'm not getting enough for my money, or I can say, okay, but at the end still feel like I was overcharged. In massagegirl's mind she provided me with her service for an agreed on price, therefore I got my money's worth. If I told massagegirl that I won't see her because at her rate I wouldn't get my money's worth, she would obviously disagree with my rationale and therefore, not see me. Who's right and who's wrong here? I don't believe either of us would be wrong, as we are both looking out for our own best interests. If either one of us took this personally, then we are no longer engaged in a business transaction, we (for some reason) have made it personal (which is not good). When a person on this board does a post stating that there's no way such and such sp is worth the $$, or when an sp downs a guy for getting it cheap (statements like. "Well if she's that cheap she must be a crack-head), they seem to get flamed by one side or the other, rather than people just respecting that it is just their oppinion. You don't have to keep a rebuttal to yourself, but maybe just be respectful in you objective remarks
This post has turned into a great debate handled in a respectful way. Wish more could be like this.
This post has turned into a great debate handled in a respectful way. Wish more could be like this.
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Those girls charge those rates to weed out shallow people like you. If you did a search of the girls you are refering to (and I agree there are a few with well... lets say less than average looks) you would find rave reviews for the service they provide, as I'm also sure if you searched some of the hotties you will find that all they have to offer is good looks. It all depends on what the individual is looking for.
If she is a homosexual I'd like to be a part of that sandwich:Þdinobot said:
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