I know I'm dreaming but...

[Maury Beniowski]

Here's a novel concept that should avert many of the review problems we have had in the past...

Let's call it the two basic Rules of Engagement!

Rule No. 1 - Only the reviewer can make negative comments or references or follow-up remarks about the subject SP, as long as they follow a modicum of respect. Of course, this would only apply to genuine reviews. All phony reviews, please Exit Stage Left, once they are determined to be so.

Rule No. 2 - Any or all comments regarding the reviewer's post by other posters, should be restricted to positive or objective remarks. All negative remarks should be deleted forthwith. After all, what do they really add to the review but fuel controversy?

This should eliminate most flame wars...

I don't think this is asking for much, and should pay tribute to both the SP and the reviewer in question.

 

[Penhold]

Maury.

Wake up! Wake up!!! WAKE UP!!!!!

You're dreaming and talking in your sleep again!

 

[Maury Beniowski]

Absolutely not, Mike!

Are you saying that if you review Provider X and give her high grades, but I had a bad experience with her, I can`t share that bad experience with those who may rely on your review?

Mike, on the contrary! If you had a negative experience with her, then start your own thread, and leave the others` intact. The end result would be the same anyway - you both would have your own unique perspectives, leaving others to weigh one against the other. However, it would curtail disputes and debates within the context of the positive experience from the satisfied poster.

All too often, positive reviews are flamed by others that have had different or negative experiences - whether or not they posted a review. This surely discourages newbies from posting their reviews - and as newbies, they are hesitant to begin with anyway, especially if they see a lot of flaming going on. I believe many newbies who have tried posting, and got slammed in the process, have been stymied from doing it again, and this may be a contributing factor for the lower count of reviews out there. Time and again, some posters complain about the diminishing numbers of reviews; well, is it any wonder?

When the board was in its genesis, there were lots of reviews available, and flame wars were rare. This is sadly no longer the case. If we agreed to the above rules of engagement, then this board would become more productive, with a resurgence of posts, both negative and positive, leaving the readers with a more substantial database to make objective decisions.

But like I said, this is the stuff of dreams...

p.s.: I think one of your recent reviews (Candy Review) validates my point, somewhat. Two positive reviews of the same SP; with a reference made to a previous review by another poster. However, if a negative one was also out there, on its own, there would be less likelyhood of confrontations or disputes marring your own experience.

 

[guntno]

I've said a long time ago that the review section shoudl be limited to reviews. And that the only comments in a thread should be from the reviewer and the SP reviewed.

The post where I mentioned it should still be on here somewhere, can't be bothered to look for them. It was a good idea then, it's a good idea now, but it won't happen.

This is a GREAT idea. Why won't it happen? Don't moderators read this stuff and take it into consideration?

I think this idea has considerable merit and makes way more sense than trying to determine whether a certain post is positive, sorta positive, sorta negative, really negative, ...... you get the idea.

 

[chuck1561]

This is a GREAT idea. Why won't it happen? Don't moderators read this stuff and take it into consideration?

I think this idea has considerable merit and makes way more sense than trying to determine whether a certain post is positive, sorta positive, sorta negative, really negative, ...... you get the idea.

the mods have nothing to do with that kind of policy. that would come down from admin. they have been asked before and they, at that time did not want it that way. since it's fz's board he can do what he likes.

 

[chuck1561]

I hate it when the SP chimes in.

Then she attacks the reviewer of a bad review or, worse (!!) hugs and kisses a good reviewer.....uggghhh!

so what you're saying Mike ..is they're not welcome here and not welcome to stand up for themselves should the reviewer be lying..which, I know you think all pooners tell the truth..but the liars do exist

 

[chuck1561]

chuck:

If the reviewer's lying, other pooners will be happy to tell us so!!

LMAO..you've got to be kidding unfortunately as much as they say they'd know..a lot of the times they don't .. there was a lot of times when members would jump down a reviewer's throat accusing him of being a shill and a fake only to find out that he's authentic..the only thing that pooners did in that case is scare off another reviewer from the board. and that happens a lot of the time. and when the review is negative they praise the reviewer and never question a thing !

 

[Massagegirl]

Mike Hawk has a point Chuck, the girl saying thanks is just silly IMHO. The Seattle board has a policy of the SP NOT posting in reviews, although their reasons of it making the reviewers vie for her praise is somewhat silly, the policy is a good one. If the girl thinks it is fake, any defending she does is just suspicious. It would carry 10X more weight if the contradiction came from another pooner. Sometimes that could take a while, but nobody believes everything they read anyway, so the SP`s life would hardly be over.

Another reason I don`t think it`s a good idea for SP`s to post in their review thread is something I learned the hard way and that is I posted a "thank you and I hope noone minds if I quote exerpts on my website" post in my first review thread. The result was it stopped the thread cold for over a year (it was just resurrectd by a newbie). The deduction I made from that is the boys like to share info about girls but they don`t want to be reminded that the girl is listening. It ruins the illusion.

Also I will personally bitchslap the next person who cries shill without waiting for more collaboration from people who have ACTUALLY SEEN THE GIRL! It does nothing but chase away new posters, as it almost did with a new poster Englebert Humperdink, a few months ago, who turned out to be authentic despite know-it-all professional shill spotters who were convinced it was fake but ended up looking stupid.
Example

 

[chuck1561]

Mike Hawk has a point Chuck, the girl saying thanks is just silly IMHO. The Seattle board has a policy of the SP NOT posting in reviews, although their reasons of it making the reviewers vie for her praise is somewhat silly, the policy is a good one. If the girl thinks it is fake, any defending she does is just suspicious. It would carry 10X more weight if the contradiction came from another pooner. Sometimes that could take a while, but nobody believes everything they read anyway, so the SP`s life would hardly be over.

Another reason I don`t think it`s a good idea for SP`s to post in their review thread is something I learned the hard way and that is I posted a "thank you and I hope noone minds if I quote exerpts on my website" post in my first review thread. The result was it stopped the thread cold for over a year (it was just resurrectd by a newbie). The deduction I made from that is the boys like to share info about girls but they don`t want to be reminded that the girl is listening. It ruins the illusion.

Also I will personally bitchslap the next person who cries shill without waiting for more collaboration from people who have ACTUALLY SEEN THE GIRL! It does nothing but chase away new posters, as it almost did with a new poster Englebert Humperdink, a few months ago, who turned out to be authentic despite know-it-all professional shill spotters who were convinced it was fake but ended up looking stupid.
Example

well, mg , although I agree with some of what you say..the contradiction or whatever you wish to call it coming from another pooner, in my experience, still does not carry too much weight at times. they just get called wimps who are pussy whipped standing up for the ******** whatever colourful name you wish to input by members of the "bro`s before ho`s" club, who`s wish it is for sp`s not to have a say in anything at anytime. actually I do, personally think that Maury`s idea is a very good one and would like to see it implemented myself. what gets me is some don`t seem to want the sp`s to "chime in" as such but have no problem with anyone else on this board making their rediculous comments and or making their intentional shilling comments that are profitable for them and seem to get overlooked by other pooners and even in some cases praised. kind of hypocritical if you ask me

 

[Slatz]

Another reason I don't think it's a good idea for SP's to post in their review thread is something I learned the hard way and that is I posted a "thank you and I hope noone minds if I quote exerpts on my website" post in my first review thread. The result was it stopped the thread cold for over a year (it was just resurrectd by a newbie). The deduction I made from that is the boys like to share info about girls but they don't want to be reminded that the girl is listening. It ruins the illusion.

Hi Massagegirl.
I thought that it was cool that you had good relationship with your clients. It was that thread that actually made my decision to see you. You thread is long lived and punctuated by periods of inactivity both before and after you thanked your clients. IMHO quoting them only flattered their male egos. How else does one explain all those Penthouse Forum letters of the good old days. After seeing you I decided to post a review because I liked the service and appreciated the efforts of the previous reviewers. I guess my illusion is that you are listening.

If the service is good and everyone is happy, the reviews are good. There is no problem with a little playful banter back and forth. I guess the big problem arises when service is bad, the SP is flamed, and the client is called a needle dick. In that case, as a client, the red flags come out real quick. 5 good reviews would outweigh 1 bad one. Arguing does nothing good for the SP.

I guess I'm too much a newbie to follow the "shill" argument. Anything that is oversold or looks "too good" to be true, just stands out too much for me to believe. On the other side, someone who jumps up and down challenging everyone else's opinions is just an attention seeker. I love the term "Bitch Slap", when used correctly it really can convey a sense of anger. Those people that seek to rise to the top by making the rest of us look bad or stupid deserve a double bitch slap in my books.

p.s. .... just don't call me a needle dick ... please