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How come they choose from just two people for President and fifty for Miss America?

luckydog71

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Massagegirl had a series of perplexing questions. But this one made me think.

How come they choose from just two people for President and fifty for Miss America?

Why is that? Why is it that two parties have a monopoly on who gets elected?

The Presidential race has turn into a beauty pageant of sorts anyway. It is not the guy with the best ideas. It is the guy with the most powerful old boy network and the guy with the best TV personality.

I can already hear you - W with the best personality????????? Compared who he was up against - huffing Al Gore and G.I. Kerry.

Massage girl - you are really on to something here. Each State would determine who their presidential candidate would be. Then we would enter a series of events that would eliminate candidates until their was one left standing.

Maybe we could expand the profile beyond - the white male protestant that the previous 43 presidents fit into.

Do you think a State may put up a gay guy? A Jew? A black guy? A woman? An immigrant?

Do you think a rogue State (Hawaii) might actually put up a person who fell into all of the above? Let’s see a black gay Jewish woman born in Canada.

After 200 plus years the time has come. Massagegirl - you are a genius.
 

LonelyGhost

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um ... LD ... don't you guys already elect two representatives from each state for the Senate and then more from each state for Congress???

whaddya need 50 barbie-dolls for president for?

why not toss the whole electoral college crap and crown Miss America President for a year ... couldn't do any worse than Dubya ...
 

Massagegirl

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Lmao, that is the one I found the most perplexing too!

It doesn't seem that 2 choices are enough, IMO. I was disappointed the year that Jesse Jackson removed himself, and also when Ross Perot did! I would love to see either one elected! Ross Perot is a financial genius surely he wouldn't fuck around starting wars but would improve the economy like none other. I would also have loved seeing a black president, like Jesse Jackson, (although I know nothing about him) get into office. I wonder why they backed out?? Threats from the old boys?
 

hellokitten

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Two parties good.

Two parties means that they won't waste time with a third party that could call a non-confidence vote. Similar to Canada heading for another election.
 

luckydog71

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Massagegirl said:
I would also have loved seeing a black president, like Jesse Jackson, (although I know nothing about him) get into office. I wonder why they backed out?? Threats from the old boys?
I would not vote for Jackson, because of his politics. I would like to see other candidates step forward and make a serious run. Condy may try. You will see candidates start to come forward early next year.

The reason they back out is money and media support. If you don't have mega bucks you can't run a campaign. If the media chews you up you can survive.

Last time around Dean lost because the media played that tape of him yelling over and over and over...I actually felt sorry for the guy when they finished with him. The media wanted Kerry and they enabled his come back.
 

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luckydog71 said:
Massagegirl had a series of perplexing questions. But this one made me think.

How come they choose from just two people for President and fifty for Miss America?

When was the last time some one really good looking ran for president? In the last presidential race there was George the Court Jester and John the Giraffe! :)

luckydog71 said:
Why is that? Why is it that two parties have a monopoly on who gets elected?
The biggest problem in the US political system. Third parties have come and gone, but by far the US has had a two party system. Part of is the Republicans and Democrats are extremely quick to condemn anything that hints of a third party by deeming it to be a wasted vote. Add a compliant media with that and it is very difficult for a third party to get off the ground. If one does then it is harder for it sustain itself. For example, where is Ross Perot's Reform party these days?


luckydog71 said:
The Presidential race has turn into a beauty pageant of sorts anyway. It is not the guy with the best ideas. It is the guy with the most powerful old boy network and the guy with the best TV personality.

The party that runs the best negative campaign, especially when it comes to funding.


luckydog71 said:
I can already hear you - W with the best personality????????? Compared who he was up against - huffing Al Gore and G.I. Kerry.

Massage girl - you are really on to something here. Each State would determine who their presidential candidate would be. Then we would enter a series of events that would eliminate candidates until their was one left standing.

Maybe we could expand the profile beyond - the white male protestant that the previous 43 presidents fit into.

Do you think a State may put up a gay guy? A Jew? A black guy? A woman? An immigrant?

Do you think a rogue State (Hawaii) might actually put up a person who fell into all of the above? Let’s see a black gay Jewish woman born in Canada.


After 200 plus years the time has come. Massagegirl - you are a genius.

Can't have an immigrant run for president. The person has to be born an US citizen. There is a movement within the Republicans to have that changed, (afterall that party doesn't care much for rules, especially when they can't have their way) so Arnold Schwarzenegger (sp?) can run for president.

Offhand the only Jew that comes to mind was Joe Leiberman for VP on Al Gore's ticket in 2000 and the only woman was Geraldine Ferraro on Walter Mondale's ticket in 1984. Jesse Jackson once had a decent primary campaign for the Democratic nomination, but I think it was Michael Dukakis that won that race. Maybe one of the third parties have run minorities.