Yep condoms have nothing to do with GFE, I mean ok they have a very little to do, communication, sensitivity, openness, touching, carressing, jesus I'm getting horny...Weekender said:I agree with Groo39, the GFE is not about covered vs. uncovered, it is about making that emotional contact.
As for "must haves", I would say it should include conversation, touching, undressing eachother, and even spending some time holding eachother after finishing.
Groo39 said:How do you tell the difference between a seriously good role player/actress, and a genuine friendship?
That is very true. A successful SP is very likely a very successful
actress too. She can send out her vibrant seduction to make her clients fall. This is how they do their business.
When a man is in love or infatuated, his mind can't think straight.
In the history of all mankinds, how many heroes fell in the traps of women!! The examples are numerous.
Let put it this way.Can we trust women as a whole?Are they all good actresses?
No, I'd say more than half are pretty obvious when they're trying to manipulate you.Lurker 123 said:Are they all good actresses? [/B]
While I agree with you here I also should say I know a few ladies who are what I would call professional (not quite the word I'm looking for but close) they tend to know a few things about me that my friends outside this don't know. Just a fact that it works out that way, I tend not to discuss my sex life with my friends. It is a trust thing, I don't expect any of the ladies I see to help me out of a jam but a few I consider on the edge of friends, a bit of a odd friendship to be sure but everything about this is a bit odd ;-)Groo39 said:
I confide in friends I know I can count on -- people that I could ask for help if I needed, and who'd probably be helping before I got a chance to ask. I don't confide with casual or SP acquaintances the same way -- as likeable as they are, I've been played by too many relative amateurs in real life to let them that far into my personal life. I'd have to know an SP for quite a long time, and on a very non-business basis before I'd start divulging too many details.
While I have the highest amount of respect for Gina and the way she conducts herself as a courtesan... I have to jump in on this one.Grendleaxe said:Definition of GFE:
( 18 words left over, what d'ya know )
Noted, I actually avoid using the term "make love", for that very reason. Frankly it takes a concious effort to avoid using it but I do it because I know it might make some women uncomfortable. I assume if you have been in the business long enough and are good enough you have had a man get infatuated/in love with you and for most women in this business I don't think that is what they want. SO while I can tell a woman I want to make love to you right now and yes just mean sex, I don't say it that way.spaceghost said:Asking to 'make love' struck a chord with the Sp and she promptly advised that she was unavailable to make an extension as she had other engagements.
It must be stressed, this Sp garners HIGH marks for her sexual satisfaction work. She also promotes the fact that she is a GFE. But the fact that he asked to 'make love' to her and not 'fuck' or 'have sex' seems to have created uneasy tension for her.
I believe many males would consider the 'making love' a natural extension of the 'GIRL Friend Experience'.
And it is a line many Sp's are tedious about crossing.
It is contrast worth noting.
Yeah yeah, OK GFE has to mean something in reviews and yeah DFK and DATY are part of it, I certainly was getting a bit philosophical because DFK and DATY do not insure it feels like a GFE to me but hey I see your point..providerboy said:Pay no attention to Groo39 & Weekender's definition of GFE and their bullshit of "emotional connection".
GFE is a code word of DFK, DATY, and sometimes BBBJ. As if a provider is going to say "I 'll suck you off sans jimmy hat". No GFE is the code word. There is to much abuse of this word by con artist hookers. If you use Groo39's definition every damn provider will claim she is a gfe.
You can be guaranteed if I use GFE in a review I dfk'd, daty'd and most likely bbbj'd up a storm. I have spoken, and the definition is final. Appreciate the time.
Any particular reason you had to make it personal instead of just stating your opinion?providerboy said:Pay no attention to Groo39 & Weekender's definition of GFE and their bullshit of "emotional connection".
Of that I have no doubt -- a good "player" (male or female) can make their target feel like the one-and-only center of their world. However, if I'm getting a GFE vibe, I'd rather not spoil the roleplay by thinking about reality at the time. Reality will come crashing back down soon enough.kahuna_01 said:THere are a few sps out there that are GFE, that to the uninitiated, seem very intimate but theyre colder than liquid nitrogen down deep.