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thehedonist

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I feel like there's a blow horn next to my ear constantly shouting, "This is your last opportunity to sleep with young girls!"

When I approach girls on campus, they seem annoyed most of the time. Sometimes I'll get a friendly one (usually non-westernized), but as soon as I ask for the digits she'll give some b.s. excuse.

The only girls who've ever been receptive were fat, which just isn't attractive to me. Besides, I have a good body (slim-athletic with a 6 pack). Why should I settle for someone who doesn't take care of herself?

Should I just give up?
 

thehedonist

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Hm... you kind of sound like the love child of tobleroney and joe45?

Anyhoo, perhaps it's a personality issue rather than an issue with your physical attractiveness?
I'm not trolling, and I've never heard of those guys.

Nope, my personality's fine. I have NO problem making male friends - nerds, jocks, and everything in between. It's always come very easily to me. Getting laid with normal bmi girls, on the other hand, is impossible as far as I can tell.
 

bcneil

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I'm not trolling, and I've never heard of those guys.

Nope, my personality's fine. I have NO problem making male friends - nerds, jocks, and everything in between. It's always come very easily to me. Getting laid with normal bmi girls, on the other hand, is impossible as far as I can tell.
Well then what do you think your problem is?
As other men in your age group DO have sex for free with females in their peer group
 

Ray

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What else do you have to offer besides 'a six pack'. Sounds like you're expecting girls to throw themselves at you and you're getting frustrated because they're not. Most girls I grew up with weren't looking to get 'picked up' by a random stranger. They established relationships with guys they grew up with.
You think you're too good for the girls that are interested in you. Women pick up on that and aren't interested in a guy that's high on himself.
 

crunkory

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I think your problem here is over-focussing on your 6-pack rather than your personality to attract women. Maybe ask a girl on a date first before asking them for sex.
 
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thehedonist

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Well then what do you think your problem is?
As other men in your age group DO have sex for free with females in their peer group
Many aren't able to. I'd guess half my friends are virgins. They act like everything's okay, but at the end of the night they still go home empty handed 100% of the time.

A few are in relationships with really unattractive girls. Either fat or anorexic skinny with no curves. I could have that, but honestly I'd rather just get myself off to porn.

It seems the top 50% of girls (slender with some curves) are reserved for the top 20% of guys (in terms of facial attractiveness and social status).
 

Ray

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they still go home empty handed
Betcha their hands aren't empty...


It seems the top 50% of girls (slender with some curves) are reserved for the top 20% of guys (in terms of facial attractiveness and social status).
Welcome to the Vancouver dating scene. It doesn't get better.
 

violetblake

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You've pretty much answered your own question.

-You're only interested in the hottest girls. Most girls aren't into people who are only into them for their looks.

-Sure women like hot men as much as anyone, but what's most important is personality. Men who are funny, intelligent, respectful. Don't listen to what TV shows and the media portray. You have to have a good personality, some substance, something that sets you apart from a thousand other guys that look like you.

-Women don't like men who are only after sex, even if that may be all she wants out of you. Again, she wants to know that you actually enjoy her personality, and she wants to enjoy your personality. Women can tell immediately if a guy just wants sex, or is only interested in their looks.

My advice is work on yourself first; be good at something, be aware of what's happening in the world, in other words, have something intelligent to talk about. Worry less about looks, both for yourself and the women you want to date. Looks are fleeting, you could get into a car accident tomorrow and become disfigured. Then what do you have? And horrific car accidents aside, EVERYONE gets old. That means wrinkles, and for most people that means getting fat. That means YOU and that means the girl you might settle down with. It's going to happen, get used to it. So move past looks, because they honestly mean nothing. Work on your personality, and learn to enjoy other people's personalities.

The fact that you only hang out with other guys is a big sign. The men who are the best with women are the ones who actually hang out with them as friends. You know, treating them like real human beings, not just things to have sex with. Women kind of like being treated like humans lol.
 

crunkory

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But don't women like being treated like cum dumpsters every now and then? Or always like people?
Ah no, women are always people too even those few that you pay to service you
 

bananasplit

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growing up I never had much luck with good looking ladies till highschool was over, What did I do to get lookers in the sack, be myself, Hang out with lookers and don;t think your going to get laid for a second and eventually it will intrigue them to the point where they think, all these guys hit on me and try to get me in the sack except this guy. And eventually you will be able to sit back and watch them come to you for a good time. cheers
 

mcdude

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Looks attract, but personality keeps.

In short, your looks can get you talking to them, but your personality will get them "annoyed" as you put it. You are probably coming across too much as a guy who is a pig, or too into himself. You have to make it about them, and be genuinely interested. It's never free. You have invest time if you don't want to invest money.
 

thehedonist

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Looks attract, but personality keeps.

In short, your looks can get you talking to them, but your personality will get them "annoyed" as you put it. You are probably coming across too much as a guy who is a pig, or too into himself. You have to make it about them, and be genuinely interested. It's never free. You have invest time if you don't want to invest money.
I approach them just as I would another dude. I don't act pervy or into myself. No one does with people they just met.

Well, they blow me off right away (or after 10 minutes or w/e), so I couldn't invest time in one even if I wanted to.

Maybe paying for it upfront is the only way.
 

GATSBY

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I think you should go see Miss Violet and prove her wrong :) or right. It's win win either way, but you'll be short a couple textbooks. Just borrow your buddy's.

Btw, Miss Violet, your new pics are amazing.
 

beaverbuzz

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Let me provide some "insight" into to women. I wouldn't say I'm a player, a pick up artist or a man whore. However I have always had a girlfriends and do not have a hard time picking up women.

The number one thing you need to know how to do is create ATTRACTION with women. If you do not create ATTRACTION you will be put into the friend zone rather quickly. There are many different ways men create ATTRACTION with women; however I'm going to list a few:

-Girls love to laugh and if you can make a girl laugh this can usually help build some ATTRACTION.
-Mystery - Don't tell your whole life story to a girl; leave some mystery, act busy, make it seem like you have a life.
- Confidence - Know who you are and be confident; don't ask a girl what you should do, tell her what you are doing and if she wants to she can come along.
- be different - Don't try and follow the status quo, stick out, be different, be unique.
-jealousy- This works so amazing and not to many guys really utilize this tactic; most women REALIZE they are attracted to you when they see you with another women flirting or dancing or whatever the case may be.

In a nut shell if you are funny, confident and have some mystery to you, you will be successful with women.

HERE are a few things that kills attraction with women

-neediness - don;t txt or call every two minutes, give them some space, have a life and act busy.
-poor hygiene - if you have yellow teeth, horrific nails, stink, unkept hair, etc TAKE CARE OF YOURSELF
-clothes - you do not need to be GQ- but don't wear dirty clothes with stains on them, buy clothes that fit
- routine - if you lay yourself out there are boring, the women is going to get bored with you real fast.
- nice guy - Don't be the nice guy, have you ever heard nice guys finish last, well its fucking true. It's a sure way to end up in the friend zone.

If you think having a six pack or driving a benz gets you ladies you are RUDELY mistaken. It may get a small percent of ladies but I don't think they would be the quality of ladies you would want to attract anyways. It is the wrong mentality to have and it will get you no where. The bottom line is before anything will happen with a girl there needs to be some ATTRACTION...unless you are paying for it lol.

There is a lot of material out there on these subjects and how you can be a guy who attracts women. I hate that its under the "pick up" genre because it makes it sound cheap but in reality it is much more then that. Learning how to communicate with women on a whole other level is truly an enlightening experience. There is a lot of self discovery along the way and I think learning how to communicate in a particular way, being aware of your body language can be applied to much more then just attracting women.

THE APPROACH

I would say keep short, simple, direct and be confident.... I'm going to tell you this and its the complete truth it honestly do not matter WHAT you say but HOW you say it. If you are shy, poor body language and come across as nervous it will probably fail. If you come across as confident, cocky and or funny it will work
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You " Hey, You look interesting and I had to come say hi"
You" What's your name"
HER" Brittany
YOU" No Way! thats my middle name..
HER" SOME RESPONSE MAY FIND IT FUNNY MAY BE WEIRDED OUT, DEPENDS ON DELIEVERY
YOU" Good chat Brittany but I have to go" take take a step, turn around, stop, look back and say..
YOU" Hey Brittany are you a stalker?"
HER " NO"
YOU" Okay let me get your email address", whip out you phone let her enter it into the contacts
YOU" While you are putting in your email put in your phone number too
YOU' Okay BRittany if I call you, you have to promise that you are not going to call me 5 times a day ok
HER" AHHA OK

walk away

YOU may not get an email/number every time but statistically play a numbers game!

If you want a 10/10 girl you have to pre-qualify her, keep in mind pretty girls get hit on 3-5 times a day easily, what this means is they are masters at weeding out the needy, boring, low self esteem, etc men. You need to act like YOU are the catch and SHE has to prove herself to you. What this means is you need to get her to qualify herself to you, you need to say things that most guys wont,

* Disclaimer - this only works on absolutely 10 out of 10s who get hit on all the time if you try these tactics on 6,7's or 8s they will take offense

YOU " Hey" Stop look at here with a giant stare
Her hopefully she stops and is like what?
YOU" Didn't you wear that outfit yesterday?
her" No
YOU" Whats your name?
HER" Tiffany"
YOU' It's okay Tiffany it will be our little secret..
YOU" HEY TIFFANY I don't have time for your lies, I got to go"... do the email/ phone thing

Its really that easy, txt her, have fun, tell jokes, if she asks what you are doing make up something completely insane.. my favorite is " I'm working on a plan for complete world domination..it's only a matter of time before I take over the word" .. how many guys do you think have said that.. the standard" not much" is boring.. be exciting..

That's basics of what I can offer you

Some really good resources is The Game by Neil Strausse/ NY Best seller, there is David Deangilo, Mystery, tyler durden, etc... The game is just a good overall book.. he tells the story of when he first learnt how to pick up women and he picked up this girl in a coffee shop using something similar as to what I described earlier, he went home and googled this girl and found out it was Playboy's playmate of the year...
 

bcneil

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Actually, maybe a dumb dumb thread but I know someone who knew someone who went away on vacation and resolved that he would get laid everyday on the beach.
His strategy was simple - just walk up to every girl on the beach and ask if she wanted to have sex.

Apparently he got laid a number of times.
And creeped out many times that amount, of women trying to enjoy the beach.
 

Tugela

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Nope, my personality's fine. I have NO problem making male friends - nerds, jocks, and everything in between. It's always come very easily to me. Getting laid with normal bmi girls, on the other hand, is impossible as far as I can tell.
There is your problem. Try being a person who girls feel they could be friends with, your success rate would be better. Based on what you said in your OP your attitude towards girls is that you just want to fuck them. Girls will pick up on that pretty sharply in most cases, and that is not what the vast majority consider an attractive trait in men. I mean, you can try and eventuall you may hit on a woman who thinks like you, but the odds are not in your favor.
 

Tugela

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It seems the top 50% of girls (slender with some curves) are reserved for the top 20% of guys (in terms of facial attractiveness and social status).
Drumrolll.....girls have exactly the same problem, maybe even more so.
 
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