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Getting a Control on the Costs of Pooning in Vancouver

A resolution is contemplated to get all Perberts to avoid high prices.

  • Yes, I am willing to support an initiative to put a lid on high prices

    Votes: 32 82.1%
  • No, I have unlimited funds for pooning and don't care what it costs

    Votes: 5 12.8%
  • I am a troll, the more my lady makes the more she gives to me and I post on Perb to drive up prices

    Votes: 2 5.1%

  • Total voters
    39
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HowieMeeker

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Gents, lots of talk over the past months from many on this subject. The poll question is simple, would you be willing to abide by a Perbert resolution that avoids paying more than some agreed upon rate (say $200) to ANY SP in Vancouver for a period of not less than three months?

After three months, or longer, we can then judge what happens to prices in Vancouver and prove or disprove a point (a point that economic theory already knows the answer).
 

HowieMeeker

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Mr. Mod. WTH over?

Uh, why is thread showing as closed?
 

kehoe

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The only thing for us is that paying a higher rate does not insure a great high mileage session. There are many 200/hr. sp's that provide low restriction, high energy experiences. As long as they don't run out (and I'm certain they won't) we'll be fine. Those that do meet that criteria will have a long list of respectful regulars for as long as they stay in the business. These are the "courtesans", the ones that truly love what they are doing and will continue for many years. The service you're referring to, girl 97( and you go girl) is more of companionship; lonely , travelling businessman, wealthy tourist, etc. Generally, the man is content to be in the company of a beautiful lady and likely does not feel slighted if he's not permitted to DATY or DFK. If he's happy with that, that's fine as his $500 is what our $200 is. For us, however, it is a well researched subject and hobby. Many of us here can quote rates and restrictions of different ladies from indies to agencies to SW's. As long as the $500/hr SP realizes that they are not going to grab any of the "hobbyist" market and make us bow to their prices and rules then there really is no argument. I see many $200/hr ladies that give mind blowing sessions. As upset as you (girl97) are about being asked for a discount, think how we feel when paying $300-$500/hr. and being told no DATY, no DFK, are you done yet? , etc. Somehow I think it hurts us a little more as the money is leaving our hands and passing to yours. Think about that....
 

Johnsam

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Pathetic!

3 hours later we have 16 votes and 8 different posters. There are lots of lengthy opinions on this topic. I think most have been seen and heard before.
 

HowieMeeker

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Biggest surprise from poll so far....

Surprised only three trolls so far. Guess rest are on vacation.
 

wilde

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This idea is kind of like the one that I heard earlier which goes something like this. Pick an oil company, then all consumers of gasoline join together and avoid that company's gas stations like the plague. Sooner or later, that oil company will feel the cash crunch and drop gas prices thereby starting a price war. When prices goes up across the board again, repeat the procedure with the same or another oil company. Its a good idea in theory, but extremely difficult to acheive in reality.

Supply and demand can only explain so much when anomalies exist in our market place. In our case, these anomalies include out-of-town pooners, local pooners who does not read this board or boards similar to this one, very rich pooners, and pooners who just don't give a toss.
 

dittman

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i think girl97 has it some what wrong, as an out of towner the reason i travel north is because of the average price in vancouver and particularly victoria is much less then it is in the sates. if by chance all the ladies were to raise their rates to 300 cad, there would be no need for us out of towners to travel north b/c the ladies in vancouver would be on a par with the ladies down here.

If you add in the cost of hotel room, food gas and the like it would be like paying 4 large for an hour, so i think imho that the ladies would have to lower their rates to fit into the local economy. Either that or move down south where us U.S. dicks dont care what we pay.
 

Poseidon

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Your place or mine?
Solution

All this controversy with rates makes me glad that I’m retiring from this hobby. Oh and to the pooners complaining about high rates I have a solution to your problem:

Get married or find yourself enough girlfriends so you don’t rely on sps and
RETIRE from the hobby. At least that’s my plan.


:D
 

Poseidon

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Your place or mine?
Almost retired

Hey VM

I have 1 or 2 more gems that I'm interested in and I'm calling it quits
 

Fatman15

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I think that what we should have is a resolution to ban the trolls. My definition of a troll is anyone who pays so far off the scale that they make the rest of us look cheap for service that is already expensive. So anyone who talks about a $350 hj at Swedish Touch should have their membership revoked for being an idiot.
As for the bs that girl97 (her opinions sound like Ophilia Black) is giving us, if you don't depend on the locals go to the Big Dog which is seen by more of our American brothers. When is price a detmination of quality? I have seen that the girls that give good consistent service know that it is in their best interest to run a bit long on the sessions and to please their customers in both the sexual and non-sexual ways. They charge the average for the market. They are the ones that have great rep, and I would imagine that they make good bank (win-win relationship), and get farther ahead since they are in the business long term.
 

Kev

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Girl97 is stressing her opinion. I hope you don't feel threatened by it, and Ophelia is no dummy. We may agree to disagree. I here you on the $350 hj though, sometimes i just shake my head.

.... what you are describing VM is called socialism. Anytime an individual or community can regulate pricing Kev says no thanx. --- Kev
 

HowieMeeker

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Howie shakes his head in wonder and disgust

Kev:

This is NOT about regulating pricing, it is about sharing an opinion that we CONTROL the way the pricing is moving for this hobby. Why is it that so many "MEN" here feel so threatened by such and bring up strange analogies and call others "cheap" and talk about socialism etc.

All red herrings big fella. What I see is lots of trolling going on IMHO (which, last time I looked, I was entitled to). I admit that I am lucky financially - and I KNOW I am lucky (what differentiates me, I hope, from my "bretheren" street racing on Daddy's coin). However, I also got this way from making valued decisions. The trends I see in this market seem out of control with reality. There is a fiction that there is some mass shortage of SPs and prices must rise. You and I both know that is crap. We also know that for every Cinderalla story there are two with trolls who not only post here but shill away and draw poor saps into horrible ssssituations.

For those smokescreening this issue, really think the silent MAJORITY is buying it? Honest?
 

HowieMeeker

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VM - Agreed....like tennis!

VM.

Good point! I am getting dizzy going back and forth. How about an arm wrestle for beer instead? I have been working out lately (hockey season coming) and you will be too weak from spending all the dough on too high-priced hookers (wink!).

Take care bud. Signing off for night. Hot date!
 

Kev

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Howie good buddy.

CONTROL the way the pricing is moving for this hobby. To control pricing you would have to implement rules of some sort. It wouldn' t work if it was only UNDERSTOOD not to support higher rates.

REGULATE the way the pricing is moving for this hobby. To regulate pricing it would mean the same thing.

Control or regulate i don't see any difference in what word you choose. Anyway who should have the right to do either? Can you not see any negative down fall for this proposal Howie? Or is it all good from were you sit?

Can i come for beer? I'll buy. --- Kev
 

sirlickheralot

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We can't completely control prices, but when consumers combine their purchasing power they can exert some controls over prices, service etc. That is the reason so many consumer groups exist to take some of the power and put it into the hands of the consumer. Not every consumer needs to join or support a consumer group for it to be effective. However if a significant number of consumers band together they can exert alot more power than if they try to act alone.
 

sirlickheralot

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Kev said:
Plain and simple.

I don't like people telling me how much or how little i should be paying for things. Screw that. I'll weigh things out for myself, and make my descision accordingly.


This subject matter has made me very "discombobulated." --- Kev
Nobody is forcing you to take part in a boycott. In a free market you have the right to pay whatever rates you chose. However if a large group of consumers decide to band together and boycott a business (SPs) they feel are charging too much that is within their rights as consumers. There is nothing wrong with suggesting a boycott, people can support it or ignore it as they see fit.
 

Kev

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Plain and simple.

I don't like people telling me how much or how little i should be paying for things. I'll weigh things out for myself, and make my decision accordingly. Consumer groups included. Who in the hell is involved with these groups anyway? It'll be the same group who cuts out coupons. If you don't have the money then you do what you have to, to make ends meet. I am not of that group.

This subject matter has made me very "discombobulated." --- Kev
 

Kev

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I had a computer glitch thats why things are out of order.

Anyway....


sirlickheralot i agree 100%. For those that think a banding of PERBs will reduce pricing.....good luck. --- Kev
 

PiL

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The bias of the "cause"

blowhard said:
Basically NO one else is telling me when and where and how much of my money Im going to spend on SPs. Besides many of the ones charging over the $200 limit that I know have earned the right to do it with excellent and consistent service over a long period of time. Just like professionals do in other fields. I dont begrudge them that.
BINGO! People have forgotten that setting a price cap is in effect a form of limitation on the freedom of others. If consumers are not smart enough to educate themselves and then make appropriate decisions about their needs in relation to available finances, they deserve whatever is coming to them. Buyer beware is always a credo to live by, especially with this.

As for the poll, it exhibits an *extreme* bias towards its desired outcome. If you were serious about usable results, there should be an option to vote "I support the rights of people to set and pay prices they feel comfortable with". As it i now, either you are a penny-pinching a$$hole who think women are a commodity, someone with all the cash in the world, or a troll. I dare say many people don't fit into any of those categories and I can't vote because none of them apply.

Finally, I have to make an amusing statement for the benefit of our host and benefactor, Fred Zed: hey Fred, did you ever dream that PERB would become the John Co-op and be populated by dozens of TBills? I just know it makes you want to delete the whole thing outright.....I just see your twitching at the thought. ;)

PiL
 

Massagegirl

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If.... there were any hot straight male escorts in Victoria I would pick the more expensive one, with the belief that "the stud" would be cleaner, better looking, in less of a rush to get to the next chick, and more inclined to be a bfe.

I would be really leary of anyone who undercharged, because if it sounds too good to be true, it probably is!! I wouldn't want to risk a bad experience to save money.
 
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