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Did any other SP get this?

sexysynners

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yes, it was from a female student at SFU in the Criminology Department. Something about how to show women to work safely in the industry, to have our voices heard and help make law reform more inclusive. She said in particular she is interested in learning about the high end part of the industry. I think she should post some pics and you all can TOFFT. Oh I am just joking, sounds like a good project but I will not be participating.
It was also sent to me, and deleted.
 

Dakota Wood

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I phoned the number of the Prof, it is his voicemail. Once I get it verified that the student exists, I will do the survey. Why not? It will help a student complete her thesis.
 

Hollybaby

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Yes, I can't understand why an SP wouldn't want to do this. It's completely anonymous, and you only have to answer as much as you want to.

I've emailed with her back and forth. She seems genuine and intelligent.

Why not? I'm a student myself, I know what it's like :)
 

Ashley Fame

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I too got the email and simply replied that I could not participate. Discretion is a must!!:cool:
 

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Interesting target group. Are women in the "off-street sex industry" subjected to more violence than other women? My money says NO. Maybe so in the "on-street sex industry". If the girl wanted to do a real thesis, she should have done a survey of women in married relationships. Or pregnant women. Or foreign domestic workers. That's where the real brutality lives.
 

Dakota Wood

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Hollybaby said:
Yes, I can't understand why an SP wouldn't want to do this. It's completely anonymous, and you only have to answer as much as you want to.
Exactly Holly. It's not like she is asking you to name the clients.
 

Jodie

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I received the e-mail as well and had a look at the survey. I have no qualms about participating - there is absolutely nothing in that survey that would compromise clients' discretion. The survey was completely anonymous, and the questions I did not feel comfortable answering (i.e. relating to my regular employment), I simply left blank. She is a student conducting legitimate research - why not help her out?

Chosenone, perhaps you should delete the link you have provided, as I don't think the survey is really open to the general public. Wouldn't want anyone who's not supposed to be filling out that survey to provide answers that might skew the student's research.
 

rebeccaryder

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I too got this survey in the mail and completed it with all the answers I felt comfortable giving. There is nothing that offended me and I hope all the answers this student gets might help her come to the positive conclusion she is looking for. :)
 

Hollybaby

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Fuzzyknuckles, you said:

"Interesting target group. Are women in the "off-street sex industry" subjected to more violence than other women?"

That's her whole point! She's out to prove that they're NOT. The stereotype is that all sex work is dangerous, and she believes that high end escorting is/can be safe, which is why she's trying to get information. She's a criminology grad student and wants to contribute something useful to society. I think the community should support her, since she's trying to do something to benefit us.

Given that this survey has zero risk for discretion and safety, etc, I think it's selfish not to help.
 

American Male

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Dakota Wood said:
I phoned the number of the Prof, it is his voicemail. Once I get it verified that the student exists, I will do the survey. Why not? It will help a student complete her thesis.

Hollybaby said:
Yes, I can't understand why an SP wouldn't want to do this. It's completely anonymous, and you only have to answer as much as you want to.

I've emailed with her back and forth. She seems genuine and intelligent.

Why not? I'm a student myself, I know what it's like


Thanks for your comments, Dakota and Holly. As a graduate student myself, I certainly appreciate your support of higher education in your willingness to help out with this simply survey.

To the rest of you, I would like to encourage you to participate in this survey. You can rest assurd that the student and her supervising prof are just as concerned about protecting your identity and your anonymity as much as you are. Part of this kind of research is that it be conducted anonymously. That is the only way the data is concidered valid. She could never get her graduate committee to accept her findings if that were not the case. If this is her doctoral thesis, she will be putting several years of work into its completion. She is NOT going to jeapardize that by being careless with her data gathering techniques.

Rest assurd, she will protect your identity with the same care as a MD, a lawyer or a priest.
 

Very Veronica

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To paraphrase Rafe Mair (where is that guy anyway?): polls are for dogs...they pee on them.
 

dreamer222

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I am not an SP but a client so perhaps it is not appropriate that I comment on this thread however, I would be curious as to the results of this research. Could one of the participants ask the researcher to post a summary of her findings?
 

American Male

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Very Veronica said:
To paraphrase Rafe Mair (where is that guy anyway?): polls are for dogs...they pee on them.

Well, there it is, my friends. The definative answer. Now, I ask you, who can argue with logic this sound and well reasoned?

Marvelous contribution, Veronica. Thought provoking and insightful.

:rolleyes:
 

American Male

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dreamer222 said:
I am not an SP but a client so perhaps it is not appropriate that I comment on this thread however, I would be curious as to the results of this research. Could one of the participants ask the researcher to post a summary of her findings?

This does not seem at all likely. If this student is genuinely serious with her research, she will be interested in having it published in a professional journal in the future. Having any part of an unpublished manuscript (or even a summary of it) appear on Perb or any other sort of internet, public access opinion forum, would ruin both any chance for future publication in a serious journal and would also ruin the chance of it being accepted as her dissertation.

This is simply not going to happen.
 

Very Veronica

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American Male said:
Well, there it is, my friends. The definative answer. Now, I ask you, who can argue with logic this sound and well reasoned?

Marvelous contribution, Veronica. Thought provoking and insightful.

:rolleyes:
Perhaps you're unaware of the over 50 women who died brutally over the course of a decade in the dtes & the 100's of millions of $'s that have been spent on reports, resources, police investigations...not to mention the tragic lives that drug addicted prostitutes live every minute of the day in the dtes. Clearly SW's who operate on the streets & girls with few resources are easy prey for abuse from clients/pimps/bf's. Imho, it's pretty damn obvious that the more healthy and empowered prostitutes get, the less likely they are to become a victim of men or themselves. That we need to study this situation anymore is offensive to the memory of the women on the dtes who had to die and every woman who continues to suffer abuse while someone writes yet another report.
 

steverino

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No problem naming clients.......

Don't worry about our privacy ladies, just tell them "last week I saw" :

Butthole Lover
BS Detector
Heywood Jamblomey
Fuzzy Knucklehead
SWBloke
Pussylover
YMan

and a host of others.
 

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Very Veronica said:
Perhaps you're unaware of the over 50 women who died brutally over the course of a decade in the dtes & the 100's of millions of $'s that have been spent on reports, resources, police investigations...not to mention the tragic lives that drug addicted prostitutes live every minute of the day in the dtes. Clearly SW's who operate on the streets & girls with few resources are easy prey for abuse from clients/pimps/bf's. Imho, it's pretty damn obvious that the more healthy and empowered prostitutes get, the less likely they are to become a victim of men or themselves. That we need to study this situation anymore is offensive to the memory of the women on the dtes who had to die and every woman who continues to suffer abuse while someone writes yet another report.
Ya might wanna read the thread before ya comment next time VV.
This has nothing to do with SW's.

But regarding the point you are trying to make with these remarks. Sure. Studying the situation with SW's being victimized is offensive to their memory. We should totally ignore the situation from here on out, saving "100s of millions of dollars" in the process and sparing the dignity of their memory.
 

American Male

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Very Veronica said:
Perhaps you're unaware of the over 50 women who died brutally over the course of a decade in the dtes & the 100's of millions of $'s that have been spent on reports, resources, police investigations...not to mention the tragic lives that drug addicted prostitutes live every minute of the day in the dtes. Clearly SW's who operate on the streets & girls with few resources are easy prey for abuse from clients/pimps/bf's. Imho, it's pretty damn obvious that the more healthy and empowered prostitutes get, the less likely they are to become a victim of men or themselves. That we need to study this situation anymore is offensive to the memory of the women on the dtes who had to die and every woman who continues to suffer abuse while someone writes yet another report.

You make a good point, Veronica. I think there is something you overlooked, however. The survey the grad student sent around is not part of a gov't program and will not get shoved into a drawer in a filing cabinet in Ottawa. Its the work of academic, like this grad student, and their pushing and prodding of gov't which often changes things.

I am like you in that I would have no faith in the efficacy of this study if it were being undertaken by the gov't, either this one or the one across the border. But academics are often quite passionate and help to enact social change. Gov't don't like being embarrassed and often this sort of paper being published in a journal is enough to shame gov't into action.

I say it can't hurt to try and participating costs you, the SPs, nothing but a little time. Cynicism is easy, trying to change the world is hard.
 
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