Demos Against the Shrub?

dittman

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for those that hate us poor americans a fact of life if it wasnt for the u.s. canada would be nothing but a third rate power in a 4th world country. Live wit it deal with it but get over it life becomes so much more better.
 

timec

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dittman said:
for those that hate us poor americans a fact of life if it wasnt for the u.s. canada would be nothing but a third rate power in a 4th world country. Live wit it deal with it but get over it life becomes so much more better.
dittman, you need to recognize the distinction between challenges to US foreign policy and "hate for poor Americans"... I can't recall anything overtly expressing a hatred for Americans, as a people.

Your comment about Canada being a 3rd rate power, in a 4th world country... whatever the hell that means... :confused:
 

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dittman said:
for those that hate us poor americans a fact of life if it wasnt for the u.s. canada would be nothing but a third rate power in a 4th world country. Live wit it deal with it but get over it life becomes so much more better.
What the fuck? Can I assume that some others out there could make heads or tales of this ridiculous post? All I see is some unsubstantiated boast without any basis in reality, and devoid of any resemblance to the English language as spoken or written by literate individuals.
 

dittman

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thats because all the islamic fascist are either dead or in spanish jails they wiped out most of the spanish cell
 

dittman

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challenges yes i can understand them and to some extent agree with them because bysh scares me but any other alt. on the democratic side of the isle naw that just frieghtened the piss out of me, but in some of the things said it is pure hate and bigotry.
 

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if it wasnt for the very fact that canada was right next doo to the most dynamic economy that the world has ever seen they would be at best a 2nd world country at best but we are the engine that pulls the world economy.
 

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So, Americans staged 9/11?
Of course.
I don't think I stated that, but you are certainly free to draw your own conclusion.

Hey, maybe Jews staged the holocaust so they could end up with Israel.....
Hey, you never know. Maybe it was or maybe it was not. Who knows what really happened? Is history written by people 100% trustworthy? If so, why are there many conflicting versions of history on the same events?

I don't think so, but thanks for the evidence that you presented to support your claims.
I didn't supply any evidence, but... you're welcome? :)
 

Osiris

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dittman said:
if it wasnt for the very fact that canada was right next doo to the most dynamic economy that the world has ever seen they would be at best a 2nd world country at best but we are the engine that pulls the world economy.
Don't hold your breath.

By year's end, the second largest oil importer worldwide will be China - and still gaining fast on the US, which is presently the largest oil importer.

Chinese interests have bought one of Canada's largest mining companies - Noranda.

Steel prices are at historic highs because of the building boom in China.

In the foreign exchange markets, measuring fluctuations against the US dollar has become almost meaningless. The price of gold has not changed much when measured in any major currency other than the US dollar.

While the Dow has gone up, from the point of view of a foreign investor (you know, the ones that pretty much drive the US economy these days), they have lost ground because the US dollar has fallen a lot more than the market has increased.

The Euro is soon going to be the benchmark currency worldwide, if it isn't already.

It took the world by surprise when the Soviet Union fell apart so fast in the early 1990's. It'll be no different when the US economy collapses. Get used to it, dittman.
 

dittman

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oh yeah you forgot to add india into the mix. But it brings back memories of the 70s when they said Japan was going to supplant(sp) the U.S as the no 1 economy, but in the last 15 years japan has gone through recession, depression, stagflation, and they are supposedly coming out of their deflation.

The europeans have no need or incentive to be really productive so the euro will come and go india.

India has more problems then carters got pills.(right now the big worry in india is the outsourcing of jobs to lower paying areas of the world that were outsourced to them. Kind of poetic justice.

and as far as china is concerned to have a truly dynamic economy you have to have expectations of getting ahead for all of your hard work which means. Your economy can not be centrally located and the worker has to have the feeling that it is also paying off for him or her. Right now the leadership will go only so far.

Besides can they really afford the things that would truly make them a consumer oriented society. well not on 50 dollars a month.

So your obit of the u.s is somewhat premature.
 

zlmmm

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I hate lima beans AND garbonzo beans equally. If the other beans were smart they would kick them out of the bean family entirely.

...er, sorry for the rant. I'm better now.
 

guntno

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We are better off with the USA as our ally and neighbour than most any other option. Are they always right? Far from it. Who is?

I would like to see some of these idealists come up with REAL solutions to some of the world's problems other than attacking the US and their leader. At the same time, the fact you CAN protest is because of the democracy that was earned through wars that are ALL awful but are a reality when oppression, terror and evil raises its head.

If those complaining think the world is better with Saddam, Osama, former USSR, Columbia cartels etc. etc.....then protest away. If not, remember who to thank for addressing these global instabilities.
 

guntno

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Grendleaxe said:
It can raise it's head within as well as without.

It starts small and often wears the disguise of caring and righteousness.

It would be foolish to be so focused on distant danger that one becomes blind to what is wrong in ones own house.

All true words mon ami.
 

dittman

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actually what happened in spain was that it was a totally knee jerk reaction to blame the basque sepertist(sp) for the atricity. and then the spainsh equivilant of the fbi or rcmp started to with hold information from the gov. and leak it to the opposition, so thesocialist were always one step ahead of the gov. The moral of the story dont matter what nationality, polictical leanings or whatever, politicians have no shame.
 

dittman

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so who is going to be that engine, china russia, the e.u. canada i know south america, LMAO, not in my life time.
 

timec

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dittman said:
so who is going to be that engine, china russia, the e.u. canada i know south america, LMAO, not in my life time.
dittman, make the best of the time left to you :D

you can always rev that engine up with a good war - oh, wait... you're already doing that. WTF, it seemed to work in the past :confused:
 

Osiris

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dittman said:
well timec dont smile to much cause when our economy crashes guess whos will tumble just as fast. hehehe
Wrong again, dittman.

We have lots of options, and we're starting to exercise them with increasing trade to China and Europe.

I can hardly wait until we can say 80% of our trade is NOT with the US. That'll be sooner than you think!
 

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I think the fact that the Canadian dollar has more or less held its position with the major currencies of the world while the U.S. dollar tumbles 30% shows that investors can tell the difference between the two economies.
 

luckydog71

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3P do you think from your perspective this is a good thing?

If you do then you did not own any US stocks during this period and you do not work for a company that competes against US made products.

So if Canadians think a sinking US dollar is good and Americans think a sinking US dollar is good, everyone wins.

I look forward to the day when a US dollar and a Canadian dollar are on par.
 

dittman

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god i hope that the cd becomes on a par with the usd well see if your economy will stide forward or sink, it will sink because as much as the bigots hate us you still need us hehehe and you can do all the trash talking all you want but china and the eu is not going to pick up the slack for one very good reason they are not consumer oriented societys like ours.
 
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