Carman Fox

Choice or Circumstances???

sanityclause51

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QUOTE: (From another post) "the main reason why Poseidon never picks up street workers because most of them are forced into their lifestyles.

The majority of SW seem to be involved in the trade due to their habits or circumstances as Poseiden correctly points out.

Cutting to the chase... It's my view that ALL of us (hobbyists, SP's, MP workers, SW's, Courtesans, Escorts... whatever) are drawn or "forced" into this through circumstances that govern our choices.

I have yet to meet anyone who purely is in this hobby as a preference.

Open to your enlightenment or entertainment!

SC
 

Poseidon

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Good discussion SC!

I myself was not really forced into this hobby. It was mere curiosity and self-exploration that drove me into it. Now right now I am single and I am morally justifying my actions since I am not married. But I know that there are other things that people find immoral and wrong about me being in this hobby. That is why, I would never tell my family. Although I do tell a friend about it and he understands, because I found out recently that he too was deeply caught in the hobby and almost found himself lost and financially broke as a result.

This hobby is great if you can control yourself in it. Some pooners might get disillusioned, obsessed, become misogynist, and I only hope that these pooners can turn their situations around and not mistreat women in their normal lives.
It is the finer thing in this hobby I really enjoy:
1) Meeting beautiful and personable women
2) Discussing and sharing ideas on Perb
3) And of course the sex shared between 2 consenting adults who are in it for pure enjoyment and elation.

This is why I would never pick up a street worker or go to an MP since most of these women are in it for money due to their desperate situations, and not for the enjoyment of the hobby. I also find that the quality in the experiences between an escort and SW/MP is a lot more different. I may have lucked out during my pooning career but my experiences with an escort is much more personal, intimate and real rather than if services were used in an MP or with a SW.
 

Licker

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I engage in the hobby by choice because it brings me pleasure and excitement. Sometimes I am very active, sometimes I withdraw for long periods. I have met several wonderful SPs, one being Paige, who say they are in the business by choice, again because it brings them pleasure and self esteem in addition to financial reward (Paige, thanks for confirming my impression).
 

hitrack

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Many of the street chicks I've seen come from pretty fucked up families and it's kinda monkey see monkey do. Their parents live in shit so the kids just end up the same way. Their parents don't give a shit what time they went to bed, who they hung out with and it's just leads to the kids being another drain on society.

That and they ( the girls) all agree it's not really work and it's gravey money.

Put it like this when is the last time anyone of us guys got a brown for like 20 min of putting piss all effort into something. Not me, but if I could do it 2-4 times a day why would I want to quit.
 

wolverine

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Many of the MP girls I talk to know that it can be a very lucrative job, but most don't want to stay in the trade for very long. Quite a few of them are going to school and earning the money for tuition.

But sometimes, you do luck out on finding SPs who are truly nymphomaniacs and really love their jobs. One MP girl I used to see regularly gave me the occasional freebie, and we even talked about hooking up after-hours for no-business-all-pleasure booty calls (sigh...I miss her).
 

georgebushmoron

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It's definitely CHOICE.

Now the typical streetgirl out there may be only *just* getting by, working out of desperation for their drug habit, or because they are poverty stricken, or any other number of reasons that deserve our sympathy.

But the fact of the matter is... that choices lead to a series of other choices. Life is about choices. Each moment of living is about making yet another choice. One choice opens up another group of choices. So an early choice to experiment with drugs, would cause one to find oneself making other choices down the road. You get the idea...

Now some people are just dealt some bad circumstances in the beginning, like incest as a young kid, or mother who drank too much, etc. As there are many examples of prostitutes who come out of those circumstances, there are also examples of those who live normal lives with normal jobs who have also come out of those circumstances. The difference lies in the innate strength of character and strength of their convictions. Those with stronger character and values have an easier time making the right choices and seeing them through even in the worst of circumstances. Those who don't, make bad choices. And early bad choices lead to more bad choices later. As life progresses, the right choices become harder and harder to make when your previous 20 were also all bad choices.
 

oberon1999

Cariñoso; Affectueux !!!
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Deep Shit SC .... I guess you could say we are all forced into what we do by our sub-consious, but that's pretty deep, most of us (guys) don't feel forced. As for the ladies well certainly many on the streets are forced there by life and addictions some are there for financial reasons only. Escorts well I've meta few who were there for financial and life reasons and a few who say it was just a career choice... basically as many reasons as there are people.

Everybody knows by now I spent a lot of time picking up on the street but finally tired of it since it was getting more depressing rather than sexually exciting. The girls I met who had a clue and were interesting to talk to also tended to have stories that were shall we say dark at the least.

So why I am I doing this ??? Damn good question, i've got some answers but not all, certainly there is the sex, then intimate contact with another humna just for pleasure, I'm also sure there are deep psyc reasons like self esteem or control or my mother hated me, who the hell knows and in the long run I don't think I care.

oberon
 

oberon1999

Cariñoso; Affectueux !!!
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Well said Gina...

We all have our reasons men and women for doing this ... some good some bad, sort of that way with everything in life really....

oberon
 

SPinVic

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We all have choices in life. Our circumstances that bring us here are all different, but the reality is that we chose to be here. There were other choices to make, even though sometimes we do not see them. Of course with each person there is the degree in which we enjoy being here. Some ladies see no other choice and hate it and others love being here and love what they are doing. Personally I thought long and hard about entering this profession and made a very conscientious decision.

Life is ALL about choices, and if by chance we make the wrong one, we are the only ones that can change that.
 

Poseidon

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Gina Lee wrote:
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My real life personal view on the subject. don't flame me!
No flames from me.

Nice attitude and outlook in the hobby Gina. After all, it's nice to see what escorts and sps feel about their work because this ultimately reflects on their service. You pointed out some good pros and cons about your lifestyle and found that there are more positives aspects to allow yourself to continue. And as for your future plans in life, you are a genuine and generous soul that I admire.
 

chris222

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I'm not sure I understand the point of the original question. The question of whether we do what we do in life as a choice or because of the circumstances of our life or things in our past or whatever is a question you can ask about anything we do, not just this particular "hobby".

It's always a mixture of choice combined with significant pressure on us, based on our personality and circumstances, to make certain choices and not others.

If I'm a truck driver (I'm not), it is extremely unlikely that I'd still be doing the job if I won the $10 million lottery. I am doing it for the money, which I need to pay my bills. And I chose this job rather than others mostly based on who I am as a person. I could have done lots of other things, but who I am led me to this.

Same thing is true for escorts, or for streetwalkers. Most streetwalkers couldn't handle being an escort for a variety of reasons, based on who they are, or don't know that the option is available to them, and some might choose not to be an escort for their own personal reasons, again based on who they are.

I think most escorts would not be willing to be streetwalkers, some would. If the escort business were somehow wiped out, and it was a choice between being a streetwalker or finding another business entirely, most would go find a regular job. Another choice, based on who they are as a person.

There are an infinite number of potential choices, most of them are not possible for us due to practical reasons. I can't live on some other planet, I can't be Superman, I can't be Bill Gates son, I can't be an escort and have women pay me for sex since the world doesn't work that way. Even if it did, given the way the male body works I don't think many men could do the job. (Perhaps Viagra would make it possible, I'm not sure)

Of the choices that are available to me, my own personality exerts considerable pressure on me to make some and to not make others. I don't want to take a job at mcdonalds, despite whatever positives might come out of it, because then I'd be dirt poor. I don't want to steal for a living, even though I could no doubt think of plenty of ways to be successful at it, mostly for moral reasons. Who I am puts massive pressure on me to behave in what I perceive as a moral way.

Etc etc. I could go on and on, but I think the point is clear. We can all choose to do whatever we want, but the choices we make are strongly influenced by who we are. As this is true in every area of life, it is true for this particular "hobby".
 
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