Anybody can recommend me a aerobics class location ?

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All good comments but I must disagree on using as your benchmark for expertise the appearance of your instructor. Its easy to be slim and toned in your twenties simply as the result of good genes with little in the way of substance in terms of true knowledge about health and fitness. I will take an older instructor any day who, although may not fit our mold of what the ideal body type might be has demonstrated a commitment to health that goes well beyond our halcion years where frankly anything works. A lifelong commitment is what's needed not some flash in the pan twenty something who just happens to look hot. That way leads to injury. Aerobics is one part of the fitness spectrum and if you truly want success you need to find what works for you and stick with it...for life. Mike
 

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Hello Shelby. Thanks for the clarification. Perhaps I made an assumption when I responded that you were inferring that only those who look toned and fit are qualified as experts on
health and fitness. I found that statement as shallow as some of the individuals who post on this site. Your statements below do help to explain your self but I am still not convinced. I am so tired of the golds gym definition of fitness. We are a diverse population and come in all shapes and sizes, something you of course should know well. Suggesting that only
those who look "fit" perpetuates the myth and for the most part alienates those who are motivated to change their lifestyle to try and be in better health for it. Take little asian guy.He wants to make a change in his life. I know, lets send him down to the the local gym where all the fit, beautiful folk are and get him to work out. Do you really think that he will
last in that environment? I say less intimidation by the "fit" and beautiful and more real advice on finding that balance that can be sustained for life.

You also imply that on the basis of my posting history I might not be qualified to comment on such matters. So, to set your mind at rest I can speak to that: BSC, biology, Masters
Sports physiology, and oh...MD sports medicine. ( not I also posted on medical matters if you doubt me ) I have dedicated my life to fitness as well and have had the honour and
privilege of working with some of the most dedicated professional fitness trainers I know, many of whom would not fit the mold you have established. But apart from that minor divergence we both at least can agree that a life committed to exercise and good diet, regardless whether its gym work outs, aerobics ( people still use that term really? ) , boot camp, cycling, running, cross country skiing, whatever, it doesn't really matter. Whats important is just to be doing...something! For our part and leaders in this field lets not set up
stereotypes of who is and who is not qualified to lead in these matters. We can do better than than. Cheers. Big Mike
 

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I know a guy who teaches semi private kickboxing classes! Boot camps are hit and miss. Anyone with a set of cones can really run a boot camp.

But yeah what people suggested for a Personal Trainer might help. You can probably get a trainer twice a week for bout $400 a month + tax. I've been with a trainer for almost a year. Lost quite a bit of weight and flab.

I found a trainer who works out of a studio apartment full of free weight equipment. Style is somewhat unusual from your run of the mill gym. I've trained 4 times a week for a period of 6 months. Sounds pricy, but they do an unlimited deal. Which at 4 times a week was training at $25 a session. Which is a steal.

A problem you'll come across is that even if you train a lot, diet
plays a major role. If you're serious bout losing weight, you gotta eat healthy. No pop, no candy, sacrifice beer, cut sugar, coffee, deep fried foods, etc. When you make that change, the weight pretty much falls off of you

I've personally hit a wall though. Still need to cut the 2% milk, No carbs after 6pm. No rice, no pasta at night. Switch cooking oil and I need to eat more salad meals. If I can cut that stuff I'll lose those last 5 pounds and can get my abs to become visible
 
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Not sure i can physically handle 4 days a week of kick boxing or something that physical.

I found a trainer who works out of a studio apartment full of free weight equipment. Style is somewhat unusual from your run of the mill gym. I've trained 4 times a week for a period of 6 months. Sounds pricy, but they do an unlimited deal. Which at 4 times a week was training at $25 a session. Which is a steal.
 

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Hey Shelby. Looks like we are the same page but for two issues. You contradict yourself when you speak of all body types at the gym and then acknowledge that gyms only hire
trainers who fit a certain mold. Such hypocrisy, such superficiality. My earlier comments stand. Lets embrace the human form in all its shapes and not assume that outward
appearance define the person. Personally, I have had my ass handed to me by pot bellied cross country skiers who despite outward appearance enjoy amazing cardiovascular fitness Before you think to reply don't worry I am a very accomplished cross country skier and would be happy ski or cycle with you to demonstrate that ability! LOL.

As to you second comment re letters you are wrong. Physicians are either certified by their respective colleges so the can hold the title CCFP ( for family medicine ) or FRCP
( as specialists ) MD is the title we all get from graduating medical school and as of today sports medicine is a recognized area of interest with in family medicine but not a specific
title per se. ( I have other qualifications as well but don't want to bore you ) Cheers, Mike Thanks for your prompt reply.
 

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Not sure i can physically handle 4 days a week of kick boxing or something that physical.
I do one day of heavy upper body, one day of heavy lower, one day of cardio intensive weight exercises and one day of kickboxing. I burn most of my fat during cardio and kickboxing.

Kickboxing takes some adjusting. When you start, after 3 minutes your arms are tired. After a while, you adjust and can survive 5 minutes of punching. It is a great sweat.

If you're looking for something lower intensive. I might know of a yoga instructor who works in the same building as my trainer that teaches free yoga out of her apartment.of a yoga instructor who works in the same building as my trainer that teaches free yoga out of her apartment.
 

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You may want to look up the definition of what the contradiction means. I certainly did NOT contradict myself when I acknowledge that there are all body types at the gym and that gyms only hire trainers who look the part. It is what it is. To insult me over your own poor argument is, well, humorous to say the least. If you think its hypocritical and superficial, instead of insulting me, maybe you should take the issue up with gyms and other facilities who carry out the duties of hiring personal trainers if you are so bent about it. I have also not said anywhere that outward appearance defines an individual. You are reading into my comments what you want to, because it is clear to me this hits a nerve in you due to your personal issues regarding this topic. Are you overweight, have you struggled to stay in shape, or have you been discriminated against? If so, you have my sympathy and resect. Your posting history speaks volumes as to why this is a topic of passion for you.

Secondly, my letters are not wrong. You are actually wrong which just proves you are lying about your alleged credentials. I understand CCFP and FRCP. FRCP is with regards to any specialty including plastic surgery. When one has become specialized in Sports Medicine and it's official, they need to write an exam through the Canadian Academy of Sports and Exercise Medicine. They are then issued a Diploma of Sports Medicine and to even be qualified you either have to have your own independent practice for two years OR have done a full-time fellowship with another doctor of Sports Medicine for a year. So when you say it is merely an "interest" and not a specific title, I beg to differ. Here is what the title of a doctor who has a Dip is Sports Med looks like (direct copy and paste)
http://www.casm-acms.org/
Shelby Karpman, MHA, MD, CCFP
Family Physician
Diploma in Sport Medicine (CASM)

Notice how it is a full title, that there is additional education required for it, and that the title is fully capitalized.

As I said before, you clearly have personal issues hitting home with regards to this topic. It seems you are hell bent on proving that overweight people can be fit. I have not argued that is not the case so I'm not sure why you keep trying to debate with me. I have again, refuted all of your non-researched and poorly written arguments. I no longer wish to debate with a person who lies about their education and has clouded judgement due to their own substantial personal issues regarding this subject.

Shelby
Boy do I love a woman with intellect. It's humorous when a guy puports himself as an "expert" in a post expecting his bs to be unchallenged and then she fires back with a well worded salvo. Shelby......beauty complemented by brains.....you are sooooooooooooooo hot!
 

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Thank you sexy! You are a good influence on my brain as you are a smart cookie yourself :eyebrows:

Join me for a donut?

Mmmmmmmmmmmmm.........Donuts............. Although my appetite would only be satiated by something
much more delicious if I joined you for a donut. Let's have a donut soon. ;)
 

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Hi Shelby, thanks again for your prompt reply. I seemed to have touched a nerve with you on several fronts to have elicited such a lengthy reply and frankly the discussion is not worth carrying forward. My response to your initial post was simply to point out that outwards appearance don't necessarily definite expertise and that I had issue with the statement that one should select their trainers based on whether they looked the part, walked the walk and talked the talk as you stated. I think that does a disservice to many in the industry who don't fit that mold and yet are well trained and can offer excellent service. At no point did I suggest that they might be overweight. What I did state that there are many individuals out there who have excellent cardiovascular fitness who would surprise you with their ability and for many average folks are far less intimidating as role models to follow. That is all.

I am not and never have been overweight, not that that should have any influence on this debate Shelby. Also while you are right with respect to CASM, the process required for licensure as a physician in Canada can only come from the two colleges I alluded to previously. Sports Meds Docs, like people, come in a number of varieties, from General Practitioners or Internal Medicine Specialists with an interest, to Physicians who have completed the requirements as set out by CASM. The CASM title allows them to be affiliated with that body but it is not by any means the sole authority on the subject matter. There are a number of international bodies that grant similar degrees but as I said the actual license to practice can only come from one of the two colleges. So just like there are Family Doctors who practice cosmetic surgery even though they are not plastic surgeons per se there is a variety of physicians who practice sports medicine. Enough said. I have no reason to prove myself to you.

So lets agree to disagree and allow this thread to move forward. I hope Little Asian Man finds the right fit for him and that at the very least he found this discussion entertaining. ( if not a little boring )
 

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Hey Shelby why so angry? I thought this was a blog for discussion and not a peer reviewed website where one can be criticized for their lousy typing skills, which in case you were not aware, are not a requirement for entrance into medical school. Do you scrutinize all your clients written queries with the same intensity with respect to grammatical correctness or spelling? If so, you are one incredibly intimidating woman. You also seem to have a general distrust for people in general as it was your initial reply questioning my authenticity that prompted me to point out my qualifications. Again I have nothing to prove to you and I have revealed more about myself than I care to. As a professional SP you of all people should respect that and your attempt to highlight appropriate use of medical terminology as proof one way or another of authenticity is laughable. I don't actually recall any "medical" terminology being thrown about. What started out as a simple difference of opinion has turned into some sort of personal muckraking and that doesn't make you very attractive in my books. I pity your clients. Mike
 

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Hey Shelby why so angry? I thought this was a blog for discussion and not a peer reviewed website where one can be criticized for their lousy typing skills, which in case you were not aware, are not a requirement for entrance into medical school. Do you scrutinize all your clients written queries with the same intensity with respect to grammatical correctness or spelling? If so, you are one incredibly intimidating woman...................................I pity your clients. Mike
So lousy typing skills are not a requirement for entrance into medical school; what about poor grammar and spelling?

Many formal papers must be written in obtaining prerequisites. Several years in an undergraduate program is prerequisite to admission to a formal medical school, and if an undergraduate degree is not yet obtained then the grades must be top notch. Even with an undergraduate degree the grades must be in the top few percentile. University level first-year English is a prerequisite to all qualifying undergraduate bridges to medical school, and a poor grade in English will likely preclude any overall chance of finishing well enough.

I hate to point it out (but you are the one claiming lousy typing skills) but here's an example from your post mikebowron...."My response to your initial post was simply to point out that outwards (SHOULD BE outward) appearance don't (SHOULD BE doesn't) necessarily definite (SHOULD BE define) expertise and that I had (YOU MUST ADD THE WORD 'an' or 'taken') issue with the statement.

I often wonder when posters, pooners......especially sp's....espouse that they are in or have taken university programs, yet they have terrible spelling and grammar, which is the case more often than not. It is a big red flag to me when the provider is comfortable bending the truth. Shelby...as far as I know...doesn't advertise much of her educational background, but it is obvious that she is a very articulate, thoughtful woman, and her writing is definitely at or above the University level. If you are looking for blonde jokes, Shelby is no target.

You think Shelby comes across as angry Mikey?.....I see the reverse in your posts. You pity her clients? That's a pretty harsh thing to say about Shelby, and thus you've incurred my rebuttal. It appears you're letting your emotions get to you here. Your pity is missplaced. The only thing you should pity her clients for are for the times that they cannot see her....because times with her are magical; they are the 'stuff' dreams are made of.

Your postings, at least to me, seem quite feminine. I believe that you are most likely a woman. I just can't envision a guy getting so upset about such minutiae.
 
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I wanna bang her now! Maybe make her wear thick nerdy glasses while do do it

Boy do I love a woman with intellect. It's humorous when a guy puports himself as an "expert" in a post expecting his bs to be unchallenged and then she fires back with a well worded salvo. Shelby......beauty complemented by brains.....you are sooooooooooooooo hot!
 

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Never heard of auto spell correct blackcad? Its the bane of modern typing and I have been schooled. I will certainly have to take greater care in my writing as this seems to be an important issue when one is looking for validation on this site. I didn't realize when posting here that such preciseness is required so thank you. My earlier comments stand. Not sure how to respond to the women comment. That might make for an interesting blog...women who pretend to be guys or guys who pretend to be women. The mind reels.
 

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Hi LittleAsianGuy,

Lol I have a nerdy glasses series and you can pick from about 8 pairs! They come in a variety of colours. I can wear them while I **** your **** and **** you @&%$ till you !%# :p
LAG doesn't need any more exercise, he gets all the exercise he needs from his favorite activity - dinning and dashing:eyebrows:.
 

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Never heard of auto spell correct blackcad? Its the bane of modern typing
Too bad your spellchecker can't tell you the difference between its and it's;).
 
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