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9/11 Mysteries - A Look At The Controlled Demolition Of The World Trade Center

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Chet

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The fundamental (semi-punny use) problem is that political islam isn't a government. A great source of info is "The Secular Islam Summit" which is easily found on youtube and google video.

Google it, you expected the same of us. ;)
I'll be watching that tonight to see if 'islam government' can be a mis-used term.
Lets save time by me changing that to 'political islam' and continue the debate.
 

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It was those damned mexican kids with their firecrackers again :mad:
 

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And I'm not getting into a debate about it in a public forum, thank you very much.:rolleyes:
ok... well...
I wonder why but.. You're welcome... :rolleyes:

----From here on is a monologue then-----

Just a few documented facts:

US government had been funding Al Qaeda.
Osama Bin Laden was a highly trained CIA agent since the Cold War era who had been active on missions against Russia.
In late 90's he all of sudden turns into a "terrorist" and his name appears on wanted list. (???)
9/11 blame on Osama and they attack Al Qaeda for, apparently, hiding him. (???)
Wait a sec... CIA agents having a meeting with Osama in a hospital were caught by French agents(widely reported in Europe but not in America) and they just let him go... (???)
Even a former FBI agent filed a lawsuit against american government for constantly letting Osama go.
(By the way, the FBI agent who filed this lawsuit died on Sept. 11 during the collapse. It was his first day of job.)

US government had been funding Sadam Husein, including weapons, for long long time.
That's actually what made Iran and Iraq kept going on battle for so long.
All of sudden US declare a war against Sadam. What happened to Sadam after Gulf War? Nothing.
After 9/11 they also turn to Iraq who had never, in history, made a single attempt to attack American.
Their reason is that Iraq is in possesion of WMD.(???) You mean the weapons YOU funded???
And it's Sadam again... whom they absolutely did nothing to after Gulf.
Since they were the one funding all the weapons to Iraq, they obviously know inside out about the military situation in Iraq.
Probability that they really belived Iraq had WMD = 0%
They went for oil.... Whole world knows it. Nobody can't do anything about it. Global Enslavement/Fascism on the entire world by US has been already happening for more than half century in this way.
 
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ok... well...
You're welcome... :)

----From here on is a monologue----- :rolleyes:

Just a few documented facts:

US government had been funding Al Qaeda.
Osama Bin Laden was a highly trained CIA agent since the Cold War era who had been active on missions against Russia.
In late 90's he all of sudden turns into a "terrorist" and he's name appears on wanted list. (???)
9/11 blame on Osama and they attack Al Qaeda. (???)

US government had been funding Sadam Husein and Iran, not to mention the weapons, at the same time for long long time.
Gulf War against Sadam. What happened to Sadam? Nothing.
After 9/11 they also turn to Iraq who had never, in history, made a single attempt to attack American.
But US government claims Iraq in possesion of WMD and attacks again.
Sadam again... whom they absolutely did nothing to after Gulf.
US was the one funding all the weapons to Iraq. They know inside out about the military situation in Iraq.
Probability that they really belived Iraq had WMD = 0%
They went for oil.... Whole world knows it. Nobody can't do anything about it. Police State/Fascism on the entire world by US is already happening.
I never said the actions of political islam and various governments were mutually exclusive.

I certainly never said people of various nations don't have reason to be royally pissed off about certain aspects of other nations' foreign policies, especially the US.

All that I was saying is that I seriously doubt that the bush gov't was capable of pulling off the purported 9/11 conspiracy involving drone planes, etc, and to not discount the possibility that al-qaeda had some involvement in the plane hijacking. Trust me, I'm no fan of the CIA, the vast majority of US foreign policy and I've loathed the bush government since he was a governor (had a very politically active friend who lived in Texas at the time and heard all about it).

What I am saying is that it's foolish to spend vast amounts of energy concocting elaborate conspiracy theories and obsessing about them, while being oblivious to some very apparent issues.

And again, I'm not saying islam as a whole or muslims, but within many religious groups there are crackpots who want to impose their will upon others: the Christian Right in the US that wants to dismantle the constitution, public education, limit health care, kill gays, kill abortion Drs.

Crackpots abound, some are just more organized and violent than others. No tinfoil hats necessary, in fact quite the opposite.
 

Chet

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I never said the actions of political islam and various governments were mutually exclusive.

I certainly never said people of various nations don't have reason to be royally pissed off about certain aspects of other nations' foreign policies, especially the US.

All that I was saying is that I seriously doubt that the bush gov't was capable of pulling off the purported 9/11 conspiracy involving drone planes, etc, and to not discount the possibility that al-qaeda had some involvement in the plane hijacking. Trust me, I'm no fan of the CIA, the vast majority of US foreign policy and I've loathed the bush government since he was a governor (had a very politically active friend who lived in Texas at the time and heard all about it).

What I am saying is that it's foolish to spend vast amounts of energy concocting elaborate conspiracy theories and obsessing about them, while being oblivious to some very apparent issues.

And again, I'm not saying islam as a whole or muslims, but within many religious groups there are crackpots who want to impose their will upon others: the Christian Right in the US that wants to dismantle the constitution, public education, limit health care, kill gays, kill abortion Drs.

Crackpots abound, some are just more organized and violent than others. No tinfoil hats necessary, in fact quite the opposite.

I don't think it's foolish at all. Just because Bush is stupid it doesn't mean the whole government is incapable of intelligent terrorism. Here's just a few more facts about 9/11 and tell me if you still think it's elaborated and don't think it's weird enough to think it's inside job.

1) GW Bush's brother, Marvin Bush was in charge of SECURITY of TWIN TOWERS, and guess when his 2-year contract precisely ended. In the morning of Sept. 11, 2001.

2) Larry Silverstein, owner of tower 7 admitted by accident, in interview, that he decided to 'pull it' --demolist's term of bombing a building down. Interview footages are everywhere on google video and youtube.

3) A day before Sept. 11. ALOT of government officials were informed by phone calls not to fly next day. Documented and interviewed.

4) Their already had been bombing attempt on Twin Tower by the government few years before the 9/11/2001. It failed because the guy who was instructed to park the van filled with explosive decided not to do it and reported. It's been documented and reported.

5) On 9/11/2001, there was a nation wide drill on US airforce happening exactly at the same time at the same place. Guess what the specific assumption in the drill was. 4 HIJACKED PLANES CRASHING INTO WORLD TRADE CENTRE, PENTAGON, AND WHITE HOUSE. This is basically why 9/11 happened without interference; because the airforce thought it was just part of a drill!

6) Let's look at the London Bombing for a second. Guess what happened in the anti-terrorism force in London on the same day at the same time at the same place. A DRILL OF BOMBINGS IN SUBWAY AND BUSES. Do we see a pattern here?

7) Owner of the twin tower(forgot name) singed an insurance contract of multi-billion dollars just a couple weeks before 9/11. Guess what's specifically mentioned and included in the contract. TERRORIST ATTACK.

These are just out of top of my head. The list goes on and on and on...
By the way... Does this look like a Boeing 747 crash mark?
This picture was taken 30 minutes after the crash at the Pentagon.


The damn plane must had no wings... Was boeing 747 only a size of a cruise missle?

To me.. 9/11 is just another one of countless examples of US doing self-attack. But this one being so magnificent people don't dare to think it's an inside job. But looking at the history of what US has been doing it's no surprise. Just like Hitler burned down his own Reichstag building, blamed it on communists, passed a bill of 'emergency decree(Patriot Act in US?),' and started the WWII. History repeats.
And I believe there's more and bigger coming if people don't wake up. This is by no means being foolish.
 
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I don't think it's foolish at all. Just because Bush is stupid it doesn't mean the whole government is incapable of intelligent terrorism. Here's just a few more facts about 9/11 and tell me if you still think it's elaborated and don't think it's weird enough to think it's inside job.

1) GW Bush's brother, Marvin Bush was in charge of SECURITY of TWIN TOWERS, and guess when his 2-year contract precisely ended. Sept. 11, 2002.

2) Larry Silverstein, owner of tower 7 admitted by accident, in interview, that he decided to 'pull it' --demolist's term of bombing a building down. Interview footages are everywhere on google video and youtube.

3) A day before Sept. 11. ALOT of government officials were informed by phone calls not to fly next day. Documented and interviewed.

4) Their already had been bombing attempt on Twin Tower by the government few years before the 9/11/2002. It failed because the guy who was instructed to park the van filled with explosive decided not to do it and reported. It's been documented and reported.

5) On 9/11/2002, there was a nation wide drill on US airforce happening exactly at the same time at the same place. Guess what the specific assumption in the drill was. 4 HIJACKED PLANES CRASHING INTO WORLD TRADE CENTRE, PENTAGON, AND WHITE HOUSE. This is basically why 9/11 happened without interference; because the airforce thought it was just part of a drill!

6) Let's look at the London Bombing for a second. Guess what happened in the anti-terrorism force in London on the same day at the same time at the same place. A DRILL OF BOMBINGS IN SUBWAY AND BUSES. Do we see a pattern here?

7) Owner of the twin tower(forgot name) singed an insurance contract of multi-billion dollars just a couple weeks before 9/11. Guess what's specifically mentioned and included in the contract. TERRORIST ATTACK.

These are just out of top of my head. The list goes on and on and on...
By the way... Does this look like a Boeing 747 crash mark?
This picture was taken 30 minutes after the crash at the Pentagon.


The damn plane must had no wings... Was boeing 747 only a size of a cruise missle?

To me.. 9/11 is just another one of countless examples of US doing self-attack. But this one being so magnificent people don't dare to think it's an inside job. But looking at the history of what US has been doing it's no surprise. Just like Hitler burned down his own Reichstag building, blamed it on communists, passed a bill of 'emergency decree(Patriot Act in US?),' and started the WWII. History repeats.
And I believe there's more and bigger coming if people don't wake up. This is by no means being foolish.
You do know the attack took place in 2001, right?
 

Chet

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You do know the attack took place in 2001, right?
OOOps...
Let me revise that... :D

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Not saying that there isn't a possibly of inside job. But when someone came up with a conspiracy theory for 911 just for the sake of coming up with a conspiracy theory, not only it's ridiculous but also very disrespectful for the thousands of innocent lives lost that day.
 

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Not saying that there isn't a possibly of inside job. But when someone came up with a conspiracy theory for 911 just for the sake of coming up with a conspiracy theory, not only it's ridiculous but also very disrespectful for the thousands of innocent lives lost that day.
People don't question 9/11 for 'kicks'. People question it because it doesn't make any sense. Bush would never even have allowed an investigation. The Jersey widows were the ones who basically forced it. And the 911 Commission was controlled by the Bush admin and Bush and Cheney never taped or questioned under oath and no transcripts and they appeared together!

That alone should be suspicious. And if there was this grand failure of NORAD why didn't anyone get in trouble? They stood down for 2 hours! Plus Norman Mineta is on record saying Cheney took control of NORAD and had them stand down.

Watch the films and stop with the smart ass tinfoil hat comments and actually look at the evidence piece by piece and you will see the truth.
 

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Oh... Alex Jones...
His voice and tone is like a WWF wrestler, but that guy really knows alot and dedicated his life to shout against NWO. Also a radio host in Texas.

He has a very wide and specific ideas/knowledge about the way the world is going towards and sometimes tries to put the long story short talking very fast. So he often sounds like he still needs to prove more.
But if you watch his longer footages or many of his documentaries. He has all the evidences and documentations to support his ideas that can't be denied.

I strongly suggest his version of 9/11 ones as well as Bohemian Grove, Nutricide, Police State, and New World Order related ones.
It's scary... but also must-know's
 

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I would just like to thank the person who started this thread..

I remember on 9/11 watching the news..(which was a rare occurance for me at the time) and seeing some sort of commotion going on in the states. I remember what I had for breakfast, what happened at school that day, and even what I did when I got home..

What I neglected to remember or take the time to educate myself on, was what ACTUALLY happend in manhatten that morning.

Ive only heard theories, seen a few clips of the planes plummit into the towers, and assume it was binladen who directed the attacks.. etc...

I just spent the last two hours researching, and watching footage of what really happened..and I am shaking from the thought of what those people were going through the last minutes of their lives. At times like this I really hate my empathetic nature, and passion to make a change..because I am so furious right now that those people had to suffer..and yet there is nothing I could have, or can do about it. Watching those souls throw themselves from the burning building..landing like a sack of bicks. The 911 phone calls...the woman waving for help, and being demolished into a speck of dubrie..

and I will say I am 100% convinced it was an organized demolition by the CIA,and GOVERNMENT alike, with full knowledge of the impact it would cause, not even blinking an eye when they recieved word it had happened.

I wont be able to sleep tonight, and it is my own fault for making myself see the rawest angle of that day..

I am just that more greatful for everything I do have, and am blessed with..

I hope you all feel the same:( :eek:

I would just like to remind everyone..if your feeling like your shit outta luck with something, or you feel like everything is crashing down in your life..I really suggest watching even 30 seconds of 9/11 and I guarantee your life will feel 100% more fufilling..for fuck sakes... we are all breathing:)

-preaching over sorry:eek:
 

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I would just like to thank the person who started this thread..

I remember on 9/11 watching the news..(which was a rare occurance for me at the time) and seeing some sort of commotion going on in the states. I remember what I had for breakfast, what happened at school that day, and even what I did when I got home..

What I neglected to remember or take the time to educate myself on, was what ACTUALLY happend in manhatten that morning.

Ive only heard theories, seen a few clips of the planes plummit into the towers, and assume it was binladen who directed the attacks.. etc...

I just spent the last two hours researching, and watching footage of what really happened..and I am shaking from the thought of what those people were going through the last minutes of their lives. At times like this I really hate my empathetic nature, and passion to make a change..because I am so furious right now that those people had to suffer..and yet there is nothing I could have, or can do about it. Watching those souls throw themselves from the burning building..landing like a sack of bicks. The 911 phone calls...the woman waving for help, and being demolished into a speck of dubrie..

and I will say I am 100% convinced it was an organized demolition by the CIA,and GOVERNMENT alike, with full knowledge of the impact it would cause, not even blinking an eye when they recieved word it had happened.

I wont be able to sleep tonight, and it is my own fault for making myself see the rawest angle of that day..

I am just that more greatful for everything I do have, and am blessed with..

I hope you all feel the same:( :eek:

I would just like to remind everyone..if your feeling like your shit outta luck with something, or you feel like everything is crashing down in your life..I really suggest watching even 30 seconds of 9/11 and I guarantee your life will feel 100% more fufilling..for fuck sakes... we are all breathing:)

-preaching over sorry:eek:
Everyone is naming all of the puppets and players, but failing to discuss the people that are pulling the strings. The owners of the Federal Reserve are the catalyst behind so much more than people know about. The government isn't seizing anything, the fed res is. The fed res wants the Amero, the fed res wants one world currency. The fed res. runs allo of the secret societies within the gov't. Let's not forget that the fed res is privately owned. The gov't owns nothing, but owes the fed res everything.
 

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The buildings collapsed from the top down after the sections that the planes hit . If the explosives were in the bottom it would have fallen over. So explain that? Some ppl. need to spend some time watching mining operations to understand explosives and how they work.
 

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I went and discussed this with the Trilateral Commision , The Illuminati and those old Jewish Bankers that live in a vault and they all told me that there is no New World Order and that if you believe that the most incompetent govenment in US history could pull this off you're a poopoo head.
 

arianna_royale

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Everyone is naming all of the puppets and players, but failing to discuss the people that are pulling the strings. The owners of the Federal Reserve are the catalyst behind so much more than people know about. The government isn't seizing anything, the fed res is. The fed res wants the Amero, the fed res wants one world currency. The fed res. runs allo of the secret societies within the gov't. Let's not forget that the fed res is privately owned. The gov't owns nothing, but owes the fed res everything.
fine.. but this is all hear so, no? (regardless I dont know much about the FED RES):confused:

As far as I'm concerned what haappened was planned, set up, and executed by a higher power that is NOT the taliban.

There is not a doubt in my mind, that the CIA, GOV, FEDS etc control more that we could even fathom..and yet we think we have freedom HA!:mad:
 

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http://www.calgary911truth.org/my_weblog/2007/05/911_mysteries_d_1.html

This freaks me out. There is no doubt that these buildings were brought down with explosives. There is no other way. This film shows it all. Watch this!
OH MY GOD. There was rubble all the way ACROSS THE STREET. OH MY GOD. There were SMALL bone fragments. OH MY GOD the second building hit collapsed first. It MUST have been the New World Order.

Sheesh, I wish I lived in Vancouver and could buy that local great pot you guys are smoking.

BTW this is the real conspiracy we should worry about: http://www.debunking911.com/questions.htm
 

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Watch the films and stop with the smart ass tinfoil hat comments and actually look at the evidence piece by piece and you will see the truth.
The same thing could be said about the Bible, look at the evidence piece by piece, the historical accuracy alone is irrefutable, does it make it any more believable?
If you can have your paranoid conspiracy theory's we should be able to wear our tinfoil hats. Maybe the "evidence" is all part of another conspiracy theory.
We can educate ourselves, effect change and make the world a better place. But in the grand scheme of things...you can't stop what's coming!
 
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