newbie first time - wanting to go swan lake

[Grez12]

So I’m a complete newbie to this. Never been to a MP before or anything or that like. I’ve been wanting to go to one for a while now but after discovering all about this i was surprised with the amount of information. I’ve been reading the forums and have picked up a pretty decent amount of information but still feel unprepared to actually go to one.

I’m not too picky on race but prefer Asians, Latina and caucasians the most. My favourite thing ever are big tits and a curvy body. I’m not particularly into super ‘heavy’ women to put it nicely (I’m sorry if that’s not the right lingo around here) but a tummy doesn’t bother me whatsoever. Im into when the girl is in charge and to me it makes the most sense for this since I don’t want to step boundaries. I’m also into milfs (30-late 40s , ik that’s not really a milf) but not sure if I should find someone younger as I’m a younger guy myself.

One of my biggest things I’ve wanted to try are 4 hands, rimming, russian and nuru on top of just the usual experience. Don’t really have a budget but like to stick it around 250-400 (if I get extras with full service) if possible. I assume an hour is a good amount of time but I’d like to get some feedback on what’s best.

Two places caught my eye for MPs to go to. First being the famous Swan Lake and the second being Phoenix. From how inconsistent reviews are of Phoenix I’m going towards SL. After reading a decent amount about it I’ve come to the conclusion that Amy, Ocean and Crystal are great options (if there are others that fit the above description, big boobs, lmk). The thing is I’m pretty shy and with it being my first time at one of these places I’ll be nervous af so finding someone that is willing to show me to ropes and a good time is something I’d like.

I feel like I am forgetting something important I was gonna ask but I have a few other questions anyways and will post more when I think of them.(Sorry if these are stupid! I really just want to know what to do and do everything properly not embarrass myself)

how formal do I need to be about this? As in when talking about the services I’d like do I ask “could I get ___, ___ , ___”?

How do most girls like to finish you off? CIM, COF? I’m used to letting my partners know before hand when I’m about to finish so I assume I do the same here?

I saw in other posts that they do provide condoms but would like to double check that.

again from another post for the same issue I’m facing right now, when communicating with the front desk I say “hey I’m looking for a one hour full service? And nuru” for example?

also even if I have someone picked out in mind I should still ask to see the line up and most likely I’ll be walk in so people might not be available. Is it best to call to see on the way or book before hand?

what’s the best time for walk in or is booking before better?

If I see a girl I like in the line up how do I get their attention and say I would like to pick them?

I’m sorry to everyone if I’m making a fool of myself right now, id like to give myself the best experience possible, not embarrass myself or mistreat the workers.

I’m gonna sleep on this and patiently wait for responses.

thank you guys!

 

[white Ninja]

So I’m a complete newbie to this. Never been to a MP before or anything or that like. I’ve been wanting to go to one for a while now but after discovering all about this i was surprised with the amount of information. I’ve been reading the forums and have picked up a pretty decent amount of information but still feel unprepared to actually go to one.

I’m not too picky on race but prefer Asians, Latina and caucasians the most. My favourite thing ever are big tits and a curvy body. I’m not particularly into super ‘heavy’ women to put it nicely (I’m sorry if that’s not the right lingo around here) but a tummy doesn’t bother me whatsoever. Im into when the girl is in charge and to me it makes the most sense for this since I don’t want to step boundaries. I’m also into milfs (30-late 40s , ik that’s not really a milf) but not sure if I should find someone younger as I’m a younger guy myself.

One of my biggest things I’ve wanted to try are 4 hands, rimming, russian and nuru on top of just the usual experience. Don’t really have a budget but like to stick it around 250-400 (if I get extras with full service) if possible. I assume an hour is a good amount of time but I’d like to get some feedback on what’s best.

Two places caught my eye for MPs to go to. First being the famous Swan Lake and the second being Phoenix. From how inconsistent reviews are of Phoenix I’m going towards SL. After reading a decent amount about it I’ve come to the conclusion that Amy, Ocean and Crystal are great options (if there are others that fit the above description, big boobs, lmk). The thing is I’m pretty shy and with it being my first time at one of these places I’ll be nervous af so finding someone that is willing to show me to ropes and a good time is something I’d like.

I feel like I am forgetting something important I was gonna ask but I have a few other questions anyways and will post more when I think of them.(Sorry if these are stupid! I really just want to know what to do and do everything properly not embarrass myself)

how formal do I need to be about this? As in when talking about the services I’d like do I ask “could I get ___, ___ , ___”?

How do most girls like to finish you off? CIM, COF? I’m used to letting my partners know before hand when I’m about to finish so I assume I do the same here?

I saw in other posts that they do provide condoms but would like to double check that.

again from another post for the same issue I’m facing right now, when communicating with the front desk I say “hey I’m looking for a one hour full service? And nuru” for example?

also even if I have someone picked out in mind I should still ask to see the line up and most likely I’ll be walk in so people might not be available. Is it best to call to see on the way or book before hand?

what’s the best time for walk in or is booking before better?

If I see a girl I like in the line up how do I get their attention and say I would like to pick them?

I’m sorry to everyone if I’m making a fool of myself right now, id like to give myself the best experience possible, not embarrass myself or mistreat the workers.

I’m gonna sleep on this and patiently wait for responses.

thank you guys!

First of all Congratulations on learning how to use the forum and actually reading reviews . Give youreself a pat on the back, you’re already ahead of the crowd .

Some of these will be just my opinion and others will have differing opinions .
In some cases there are no right or wrong answers.

1 .dont limit yourself to Older or younger , slim or curvy , especially when starting . You don’t have to be participating a lot to still try different things .
Tbh I poon about half dozen times a yr now a days but I don’t put limits on myself . You might naturally over time find women you like more , but perhaps not . Some guys enjoy the hunt of always trying new finds . Others develop favourite , girls , MP’s or agencies .

2 especially when you are starting , always look at the line up . Even if you phone and book first , at massage parlours I always advice arriving 5-10 min before your appointment anyhow , so ask to see the line up for your “ next visit “ . It sounds like you already have a couple places picked anyhow, if I were you I would choose the day of the week you are going on and go on the same day one week before to both ( or all ) places and ask to see the line up . If there is one girl in each place who really captures your attention ask to speak with her privately for a moment and if you have one particular kink ask if she allows it or not and if there is an upcharge .
Go home after you have seen the lineup at both or all places , do some thinking , make your choice , call and book on the day .

3 your money will go further at most massage parlours than agencies however if you prefer girls in their 20’s you are better going to agencies .
There are 3 massages parlours I can think of that are known for young girls but by the time you have paid all the upcharges the experience is far more expensive and less enjoyable than a reputable agency girl .
If you enjoy milfs there are lots of kind and friendly Beautiful women at well known massage parlours where $300 will go far .

4 Every single massage parlour will have a few girls who just go above and beyond in quality of service / experience and who seem to truly enjoy this work . That being said , every single massage parlour will also have girls who seem to hate this job and just want to milk you for as much money as they can and dont care if they ever see you again, and will have you in and out as fast as humanly possible.
So read the reviews !

4 “ how formal do I need to be about this? As in when talking about the services I’d like do I ask “could I get ___, ___ , ___”?
There is nothing wrong with being formal and polite when first interacting with a service provider , in fact it’s better than some other options . However once the clothes start coming off it’s ok to relax a bit more .
When you are lucky enough to pick the right girl for you ( no one always picks the right girl for them ) ,
Being polite , clean , considerate will pay off exponentially in most cases for you .

5 before you go , have a good thorough shower . Floss and brush your teeth . Also doesn’t hurt to bring some gum if it’s a massage parlour ( agencies will have mouthwash ) . They will all ask you to shower , ALWAYS take the shower . But if you had a good long shower at home you can save time later by having a quicker shower on the clock . They still want to “ see “ that you showered though .

6 Not all ladies will be ok w cim or Cof this is where having that conversation I spoke of earlier comes in .However if you both agree that’s the way you want to finish by all means give her some warning . If the situation were reversed anyone would want the same courtesy.

7 Yes everyone provides condoms . If they don’t , then run !

8 “ hey I’m looking for a one hour full service? And nuru” for example? “ is a perfect example how to book an appointment.

If you don’t know who you want to see , as I mentioned walking in can be good .
If you’ve read reviews and have your mind set on someone , phone and ask what days she works , then phone and book the appointment. Give them a fake name , Show up 5-10 early say hi I’m so and so I’m a bit early I have an appointment with so and so .

9 Now pay attention, Anytime you arrive at a massage parlour , or are leaving , or going to the bathroom , or simply at the front desk , if you see a women who makes you do a double take in a good way, ASK HER NAME .

10 I’ve always had great luck booking or walking in on Mon - Wedn or between 12 noon and 3:00 pm .

if a girl gets your attention ask to speak to her privately, ask her name and ask if she’s ok w the services you are looking for or not , if yes just say I would like to see you , or if not just say thank you and move on to someone else .

Finally the two places you have chosen are good places to start .

The way you did your research on this forum and then asked your questions is perfect .

Don’t be afraid to ask a questions here and there in threads about a girl it you’re curious . Since you did the work to inform yourself of the basics first you will find most guys on here will be receptive to answering your questions.
Most on here are happy to help those who help themselves as well and contribute in a proactive way
( this means you don’t wanna be someone who only leaves off the cuff complaints in the comment sections but instead be one who contributes with information that is actually helpful to others )

Don’t forget to leave some reviews once you’ve gotten your feet wet.
Don’t turn into someone who for example constantly complains about people not leaving reviews or complaints genrally about others reviews, yet “Never” leaves any themselves , ( like some do ).

Again , different members will offer different advice, 90% of it is all still correct ,
So see what works best for you .


feel free to DM me if you have any questions.

This is the way…

 

[SolidSnake]

When I started, I did my due diligence and read the reviews. Then I got my feet wet. You're supposed to go have a good time, not going in the woods for survival training. So it's pointless overanalyzing every possible scenario, unless you want to keep it a thought experiment to kill time.

Hopefully after your first visit, we'll see a review with a comparable level of useful details like the top post, and not just vaxing poetic endorsement fluff like many are prone to.

 

[Billiam]

IMHO and personal experience, you're massively overthinking this - just go.

 

[Goldj]

First of all Congratulations on learning how to use the forum and actually reading reviews . Give youreself a pat on the back, you’re already ahead of the crowd .

Some of these will be just my opinion and others will have differing opinions .
In some cases there is no right of wrong answer .

1 .dont limit yourself to Older or younger , slim or curvy , especially when starting . You don’t have to be participating a lot to still try different things .
Tbh I poon about half dozen times a yr now a days but I don’t put limits on myself . You might naturally over time find women you like more , but perhaps not . Some guys enjoy the hunt lof always trying new finds . Others develop favourite , girls , MP’s or agencies .

2 especially when you are starting , always look at the line up . Even if you phone and book first , at massage parlours I always advice arriving 5-10 min before your appointment anyhow , so ask to see the line up for your “ next visit “ . It sounds like you already have a couple places picked anyhow, if I were you I would choose the day of the week you are going on and go on the same day one week before to both ( or all ) places and ask to see the line up . If there is one girl in each place who really captures your attention ask to speak with her privately for a moment and if you have one particular kink ask if she allows it or not and if there is an upcharge .
Go home after you have seen the lineup at both or all places , do some thinking , make your choice , call and book on the day .

3 your money will go further at most massage parlours than agencies however if you prefer girls in their 20’s you are better going to agencies .
There are 3 massages parlours I can think of that are known for young girls but by the time you have paid all the upcharges they are far more expensive and less enjoyable than a reputable agency girl .
If you enjoy milfs there are lots of kind and friendly Beautiful women at well known massage parlours where $300 will go far .

4 Every single massage parlour will have a few girls who just go above and beyond in quality of service / experience and who seem to truly enjoy this work . That being said , every single massage parlour will also have girls who seem to hate this job and just want to milk you for as much money as they can and dont care if they ever see you again, and will have you in and out as fast as humanly possible.
So read the reviews !

4 “ how formal do I need to be about this? As in when talking about the services I’d like do I ask “could I get ___, ___ , ___”?
There is nothing wrong with being formal and polite when first interacting with a service provider , in fact it’s better than some other options . However once the clothes start coming off it’s ok to relax a bit more .
When you are lucky enough to pick the right girl for you ( no one always picks the right girl for them ) ,
Being polite , clean , considerate will pay off exponentially in most cases for you .

5 before you go , have a good thorough shower . Floss and brush your teeth . Also doesn’t hurt to bring some gum if it’s a massage parlour ( agencies will have mouthwash ) . They will all ask you to shower , ALWAYS take the shower . But if you had a good long shower at home you can save time later by having a quicker shower on the clock . They still want to “ see “ that you showered though .

6 Not all ladies will be ok w cim or Cof this is where having that conversation I spoke of earlier comes in .However if you both agree that’s the way you want to finish by all means give her some warning . If the situation were reversed anyone would want the same courtesy.

7 Yes everyone provides condoms . If they don’t , then run !

8 “ hey I’m looking for a one hour full service? And nuru” for example? “ is a perfect example how to book an appointment.

If you don’t know who you want to see , as I mentioned walking in can be good .
If you’ve read reviews and have your mind set on someone , phone and ask what days she works , then phone and book the appointment. Give them a fake name , Show up 5-10 early say hi I’m so and so I’m a bit early I have an appointment with so and so .

9 Now pay attention, Anytime you arrive at a massage parlour , or are leaving , or going to the bathroom , or simply at the front desk , IF YOU SEE A WOMEN WHO THE VERY SIGHT OF HER MAKES YOU DO A DOUBLE TAKE , ASK HER NAME .

10 I’ve always had great luck booking or walking in on Mon - Wedn or between 12 noon and 3:00 pm .

if a girl gets your attention ask to speak to her , ask her name and ask if she’s ok w the services you are looking for or not , if yes just say I would like to see you , or if not just say thank you and move on to someone else .

Finally the two places you have chosen are good places to start .

The way you did your research on this forum and then asked your questions is perfect .

Don’t be afraid to ask a questions here and there in threads about a girl it you’re curious . Since you did the work to inform yourself of the basics first you will find most guys on here will be receptive to answering your questions.

Don’t forget to leave some reviews once you’ve gotten your feet wet.

Don’t turn into someone who for example constantly complains about people not leaving reviews yet “Never” leaves any themselves , like some people do.
Chossing instead to just leave off the cuff complaints about every girl he sees in the comment sections, because doing this will only make you look like a miserable sob and fairly sad person over all .

feel free to DM me if you have any questions.

it’s late at the moment so if there are typos please recuse them .

THIS IS THE WAY!

 

[gianni lotus]

I’m not too picky on race but prefer Asians, Latina and caucasians the most. My favourite thing ever are big tits and a curvy body. I’m not particularly into super ‘heavy’ women to put it nicely (I’m sorry if that’s not the right lingo around here) but a tummy doesn’t bother me whatsoever. Im into when the girl is in charge and to me it makes the most sense for this since I don’t want to step boundaries. I’m also into milfs (30-late 40s , ik that’s not really a milf) but not sure if I should find someone younger as I’m a younger guy myself.

Reading the above makes me instantly think of Ocean at Swan Lake.

MILF 30-40, big tits, and curvy body. She is a darling sweetheart and will gladly lead the dance without being pushy or rushy. There are pics on a thread here somewhere that are accurate.

Like Billiam said, don't overthink it. Just take the plunge. Everyone will be nice to you. Don't worry.

 

[Grez12]

Thank you guys so much for the replies.

 

[Grez12]

Reading the above makes me instantly think of Ocean at Swan Lake.

MILF 30-40, big tits, and curvy body. She is a darling sweetheart and will gladly lead the dance without being pushy or rushy. There are pics on a thread here somewhere that are accurate.

Like Billiam said, don't overthink it. Just take the plunge. Everyone will be nice to you. Don't worry.

I’ll look around for those reviews.

Can someone give me insight If amy or ocean would be a better pick? Also I didn’t find as much info on crystal so if you guys have had her before any info would be good.

 

[F-Pantangeli]

First of all Congratulations on learning how to use the forum and actually reading reviews . Give youreself a pat on the back, you’re already ahead of the crowd .

Some of these will be just my opinion and others will have differing opinions .
In some cases there are no right or wrong answers.

1 .dont limit yourself to Older or younger , slim or curvy , especially when starting . You don’t have to be participating a lot to still try different things .
Tbh I poon about half dozen times a yr now a days but I don’t put limits on myself . You might naturally over time find women you like more , but perhaps not . Some guys enjoy the hunt of always trying new finds . Others develop favourite , girls , MP’s or agencies .

2 especially when you are starting , always look at the line up . Even if you phone and book first , at massage parlours I always advice arriving 5-10 min before your appointment anyhow , so ask to see the line up for your “ next visit “ . It sounds like you already have a couple places picked anyhow, if I were you I would choose the day of the week you are going on and go on the same day one week before to both ( or all ) places and ask to see the line up . If there is one girl in each place who really captures your attention ask to speak with her privately for a moment and if you have one particular kink ask if she allows it or not and if there is an upcharge .
Go home after you have seen the lineup at both or all places , do some thinking , make your choice , call and book on the day .

3 your money will go further at most massage parlours than agencies however if you prefer girls in their 20’s you are better going to agencies .
There are 3 massages parlours I can think of that are known for young girls but by the time you have paid all the upcharges the experience is far more expensive and less enjoyable than a reputable agency girl .
If you enjoy milfs there are lots of kind and friendly Beautiful women at well known massage parlours where $300 will go far .

4 Every single massage parlour will have a few girls who just go above and beyond in quality of service / experience and who seem to truly enjoy this work . That being said , every single massage parlour will also have girls who seem to hate this job and just want to milk you for as much money as they can and dont care if they ever see you again, and will have you in and out as fast as humanly possible.
So read the reviews !

4 “ how formal do I need to be about this? As in when talking about the services I’d like do I ask “could I get ___, ___ , ___”?
There is nothing wrong with being formal and polite when first interacting with a service provider , in fact it’s better than some other options . However once the clothes start coming off it’s ok to relax a bit more .
When you are lucky enough to pick the right girl for you ( no one always picks the right girl for them ) ,
Being polite , clean , considerate will pay off exponentially in most cases for you .

5 before you go , have a good thorough shower . Floss and brush your teeth . Also doesn’t hurt to bring some gum if it’s a massage parlour ( agencies will have mouthwash ) . They will all ask you to shower , ALWAYS take the shower . But if you had a good long shower at home you can save time later by having a quicker shower on the clock . They still want to “ see “ that you showered though .

6 Not all ladies will be ok w cim or Cof this is where having that conversation I spoke of earlier comes in .However if you both agree that’s the way you want to finish by all means give her some warning . If the situation were reversed anyone would want the same courtesy.

7 Yes everyone provides condoms . If they don’t , then run !

8 “ hey I’m looking for a one hour full service? And nuru” for example? “ is a perfect example how to book an appointment.

If you don’t know who you want to see , as I mentioned walking in can be good .
If you’ve read reviews and have your mind set on someone , phone and ask what days she works , then phone and book the appointment. Give them a fake name , Show up 5-10 early say hi I’m so and so I’m a bit early I have an appointment with so and so .

9 Now pay attention, Anytime you arrive at a massage parlour , or are leaving , or going to the bathroom , or simply at the front desk , if you see a women who makes you do a double take in a good way, ASK HER NAME .

10 I’ve always had great luck booking or walking in on Mon - Wedn or between 12 noon and 3:00 pm .

if a girl gets your attention ask to speak to her , ask her name and ask if she’s ok w the services you are looking for or not , if yes just say I would like to see you , or if not just say thank you and move on to someone else .

Finally the two places you have chosen are good places to start .

The way you did your research on this forum and then asked your questions is perfect .

Don’t be afraid to ask a questions here and there in threads about a girl it you’re curious . Since you did the work to inform yourself of the basics first you will find most guys on here will be receptive to answering your questions.
Most on here are happy to help those who help themselves as well and contribute in a proactive way
( this means you don’t wanna be someone who only leaves off the cuff complaints in the comment sections but instead be one who contributes with information that is actually helpful to others )

Don’t forget to leave some reviews once you’ve gotten your feet wet.
Don’t turn into someone who for example constantly complains about people not leaving reviews or complaints genrally about others reviews, yet “Never” leaves any themselves , ( like some do ).

Again , different members will offer different advice, 90% of it is all still correct ,
So see what works best for you .


feel free to DM me if you have any questions.

This is the way…

Slow clap here on the very helpful reply. 10 out of 10 sir.

 

[Ctian]

First Thanks for doing your diligence before posting, and all the questions you are asking are very valid, Lots of good info from White ninja there, but don't over think the whole situation, Book a Girl and just go, it won't be your last time so get your feet wet , walk in get your grove on...Ocean would be a good start, Helen has a nice new big set and there are the seasoned pro's like Nana, Lily, Crystal, Maggis, and so many more, trust me you will want to see them all I am sure...Have a great time and be sure to let us all know how you do...Cheers

 

[Grez12]

I will be sure to write a review after my experience

 

[LTNS]

Just curious how much do you have to tip?
and is room charge another added fund on top for the service?
For example i want to book a 45 min full service + Nuru so that would be $230

and is it okay I just call and say "Hi I would like to get a 45 min full service with nuru with anyone"

 

[VinVan]

Swan’s current rates are

150 for 30 min,
180 for 45 min
220 for 60 min.

Those prices are all inclusive (room fee + SP fee) for the vast majority of the ladies there. For the most part none of the ladies will up charge for bbbj, kissing, daty. There are a few who do, but none of the regulars at the moment.

If you want Nuru, it’s plus $50 on a 45 or 60 min session.

The term tip gets confused a lot between the SP’s fee and an additional gratuity on top of the standard fees. I take it to mean a gratuity on top of the fees if you really enjoyed the service. So it’s really up to you if you want to leave a tip on top of the fees charged for room and SP; some do, some don’t.

Just call and book. What I do is call around noon (they’ll usually know the full roster by then) and ask who’s working that day. Based on the names, I’ll ask to book so and so for X amount of time. Things have been known to go sideways when you arrive there (always get there 5 minutes earlier than appointment time) so I’ll have a plan B in case my first choice is double booked.

If you’re hunting for big breasts with great service I would suggest (as others have) Ocean or Helen. Both are enhanced, mind you. Helen is slimmer with not much English; Ocean is curvier with decent English. If you’re looking for natural, I would suggest Annie.

 

[white Ninja]

Just curious how much do you have to tip?
and is room charge another added fund on top for the service?
For example i want to book a 45 min full service + Nuru so that would be $230

and is it okay I just call and say "Hi I would like to get a 45 min full service with nuru with anyone"

I would spend a couple hrs on here reading about the different women who work there .
It’s not hard ( again Use the search bar ) and can mean the difference between a very enjoyable experience and one you just don’t enjoy the way you’d hoped you would .

Look all the ladies provide descent service at worst and way above and beyond at best but the fact is you are not going to naturally be attracted to all females on the planet the same way . Everyone has things they prefer & things they don’t like .

It’s your money and time .
If it was me I would have a list of 5 girls that sounded enticing and phone and ask if any work that day .

 

[white Ninja]

Have a look at the unofficial swan sharing thread 2.0 ,
Currently active in the message section , 1rst or 2nd page most likely .
After you go share your experience in that thread .
I’ll even link it

https://perb.cc/xenforo/threads/the-unofficial-swan-lake-sharing-thread-2-0.353807/

If you have questions ( within reason , like 1 or 2 )
You may send me a dm

 

[LTNS]

I would spend a couple hrs on here reading about the different women who work there .
It’s not hard ( again Use the search bar ) and can mean the difference between a very enjoyable experience and one you just don’t enjoy the way you’d hoped you would .

Look all the ladies provide descent service at worst and way above and beyond at best but the fact is you are not going to naturally be attracted to all females on the planet the same way . Everyone has things they prefer & things they don’t like .

It’s your money and time .
If it was me I would have a list of 5 girls that sounded enticing and phone and ask if any work that day .

Yes I've been putting more thoughts into it and been looking around on who to look for.

So far I'm thinking

Have a look at the unofficial swan sharing thread 2.0 ,
Currently active in the message section , 1rst or 2nd page most likely .
After you go share your experience in that thread .
I’ll even link it

https://perb.cc/xenforo/threads/the-unofficial-swan-lake-sharing-thread-2-0.353807/

If you have questions ( within reason , like 1 or 2 )
You may send me a dm

Yes I will def post after I go, I've also been browsing that thread for a bit it' has so much info