Who are the best Independent Providers? And proper etiquette in initial contact
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Well obviously lol, apparently I couldn’t find the right girls...sorry women. I recently found out some of them don’t like being called girls. Too much to learn and not enough time.
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It's okay. You'll do fine in the dating world. Then you can take your lady-children to the tropics with the savings! Win-win-win-win!
I have booking instructions on all my ads. I like to keep things simple so I don’t bother setting up a website for them to get lost on. If they followed my simple directions and they politely send me the information I request and their only transgression was calling me babe ...or insert any other ridiculous pet name, I’d have hope that he is open to being corrected and would politely make that attempt.
I wade into this dangerous thread fully expecting my gasoline soaked clothes to be ignited by a casually tossed cigarette ... and yet here I go!
I have been turned down three times for dates:
(1) Vanesssa - due to a personal conflict she had with the first escort reference I provided her with and because my second reference didn't respond back promptly enough
(2) Stella Luna - after she initiated a series of changes to the appointment, including incall to outcall and rate increases, she showed up for our appointment, excused herself to my bathroom and then abruptly excused herself from the appointment, saying she didn't need to do this kind of work
(3) Emmy St Claire - initially set up an appointment, which days later she abruptly cancelled using the 'not a good fit', when I then inquired 'why?', I was told that my question and any continued contact made her uncomfortable.
I recently sent Emmy a pm or email apologizing for the critcism she was receiving in another thread and for having made her feel uncomfortable in the past.
Why do I post this? We all have personal or professional reasons for why we choose our partners and a lot of the decision making ends up being gut responses based on our own experiences. Was I initially disappointed in being rejected? Of course. I also initially thought I was entitled to an explanation from Emmy. But life goes on, and although I do believe in the uniqueness of encounters, there are many other great sex workers to fill the void.
I have been turned down three times for dates:
(1) Vanesssa - due to a personal conflict she had with the first escort reference I provided her with and because my second reference didn't respond back promptly enough
(2) Stella Luna - after she initiated a series of changes to the appointment, including incall to outcall and rate increases, she showed up for our appointment, excused herself to my bathroom and then abruptly excused herself from the appointment, saying she didn't need to do this kind of work
(3) Emmy St Claire - initially set up an appointment, which days later she abruptly cancelled using the 'not a good fit', when I then inquired 'why?', I was told that my question and any continued contact made her uncomfortable.
I recently sent Emmy a pm or email apologizing for the critcism she was receiving in another thread and for having made her feel uncomfortable in the past.
Why do I post this? We all have personal or professional reasons for why we choose our partners and a lot of the decision making ends up being gut responses based on our own experiences. Was I initially disappointed in being rejected? Of course. I also initially thought I was entitled to an explanation from Emmy. But life goes on, and although I do believe in the uniqueness of encounters, there are many other great sex workers to fill the void.
Wish I could do a round of ‘high-fives’ to all the fine ladies and their responses. I could spend a ton of time in this response using cool funny gifs to make my point but why go to all that effort seeing as how obvious points get lost.
OP you freak me out. I’m not even your prototypical internet tough guy of 6’4” 225lbs and a mixed martial arts trainer- i’m bigger!! Dude, sooooo offside. Think of life and its interactions as golf shots, you hit a bad one so let it go. Don’t email it 6 times hoping it becomes a good shot. You work on your swing for the next hole. (That reads like a bad attempt at being Elsi Dawson funny- but it was about golf and life)
This thread should be pinned it basically summarizes everything that a ‘pooner’ (that term sucks btw) should know. When you look at the credible ladies in her chiming in with advice and comments the next lesson is don’t double down when you have a pair of 3s. (Maybe you do i suck at gambling) you get what i mean.
I cannot believe this thread got tevibed but here we are- ain’t life great?
OP you freak me out. I’m not even your prototypical internet tough guy of 6’4” 225lbs and a mixed martial arts trainer- i’m bigger!! Dude, sooooo offside. Think of life and its interactions as golf shots, you hit a bad one so let it go. Don’t email it 6 times hoping it becomes a good shot. You work on your swing for the next hole. (That reads like a bad attempt at being Elsi Dawson funny- but it was about golf and life)
This thread should be pinned it basically summarizes everything that a ‘pooner’ (that term sucks btw) should know. When you look at the credible ladies in her chiming in with advice and comments the next lesson is don’t double down when you have a pair of 3s. (Maybe you do i suck at gambling) you get what i mean.
I cannot believe this thread got tevibed but here we are- ain’t life great?
It's okay. You'll do fine in the dating world. Then you can take your lady-children to the tropics with the savings! Win-win-win-win![/QUOTE]
ElsiDawson, thank you for all the positive feedback.
Sadly I work too much and meeting women is not one of my strengths. I’m too shy and awkward at the first meet. If I get past that part I sometimes do alright but the only time that’s ever happened is if we meet through friends or she approaches me and those are rare occasions indeed. And yes I’ve heard all the cliches. There’s a reason I turned to paid companions but apparently i can’t even manage to pay for it successfully. A bit of a blow to the confidence but I’m a big boy I’ll survive and get over it....you know..eventually lol.
ElsiDawson, thank you for all the positive feedback.
Sadly I work too much and meeting women is not one of my strengths. I’m too shy and awkward at the first meet. If I get past that part I sometimes do alright but the only time that’s ever happened is if we meet through friends or she approaches me and those are rare occasions indeed. And yes I’ve heard all the cliches. There’s a reason I turned to paid companions but apparently i can’t even manage to pay for it successfully. A bit of a blow to the confidence but I’m a big boy I’ll survive and get over it....you know..eventually lol.
So to make up "not even managing to pay for it successfully", you're running around saying I was rude to you while you were being your "usual polite self"? It's time for some serious self-reflection here I think, buddy...if you keep getting turned down by SPs and not having any success with dating, maybe it's time to try modifying your behaviour? Maybe you're the common denominator?
Can help to chime in, but you got to do your research with the head on your shoulders. Not just the one between your legs... Like as others mentioned, if you see the lady calling you "babe" during the first contact/pre-booking, bail out as soon as possible. Ran into that problem, many years back (the young lady calling me babe), and ended up with a dry WOM/WOT. Treat the lady, how you like to be treated (with honest respect and honest positive attitude), the possiblies are endless...
heyhowareyou, I appreciate your input but as was stated earlier in the thread I’ve spent many, many hours trying to do my research. I’ve spent so much time researching that by the time I’ve narrowed it down the SP isn’t working, has moved or has retired. (I’m exaggerating here but you get the point).
My experience has been the babe thing hasn’t had any relevance to the quality of the SP, I’ve had good ones and bad ones but I’ll keep it in mind if I ever come back to the hobby.
If you check almost all of my positive reviews of SPs I’ve said pretty much exactly what your saying about how to treat the ladies. I’m always polite, respectful and a gentleman when I’m interacting with anyone wether it’s in this hobby or otherwise, that’s never been an issue.
Clementine, "not even managing to pay for it successfully" meant that I hadn’t found many good quality SPs. I’m not saying there aren’t any out there, just that I haven’t had much luck finding them. My politeness, respect, and demeanour has never been an issue inside this hobby or otherwise and your the only SP that there has been any issue.
It’s been my experience that the quality of the person has nothing to do with the ability to date. I’ve met complete assholes with no respect for women that can pick up a different woman every weekend and I’ve met really nice shy gentlemen that live alone and rarely date. Are you suggesting I modify my behaviour to be more like the first guy rather than the second?
I’m always trying to do better and be a better person and your right it is time for some self reflection. Part of that is going to be quitting this hobby as it isn’t working for me.
Our interaction didn’t go well and that’s going to happen sometimes. I apologize for posting about it, that may not have been the best way to deal with it.
if you haven't met any "good quality" SPs, could that be:
1. because we don't like the way you talk to us
2. because you're not making SPs feel comfortable enough to perform at our best
3. the only SPs who will meet with you are desperate and really need the money
or is it about anything but you?
Also in my experience "nice shy gentlemen" are often remiss when it comes to emotional maturity, and hot assholes are fun for a fuck because of experience but not good for relationships. I'm suggesting you examine your behaviour. You're polite in your tone and demeanour, sure, but you are NOT respectful in your interaction: especially with me. You keep apologizing for your behaviour but also saying that it's really my fault and also you haven't stopped coming for me. Walk away from this. Get some therapy.
Update for this OP: Miracle, I've gotten over the rejection. Life really is great. Spring is in the air. I have spent the last two weeks seeing 4 or 5 phenomenal and classy providers in this beautiful city. Very nice ladies and human beings. I plan to see two more providers this weekend, one dinner date. Then, I hope to write some quick reviews. I really don't take the hobby too seriously and really was not upset, just wanted to spark debate and learn. The thing about the internet, is people like to band together and gang up based on pre-conceived notions. There's no trial any more, no finding of fact. Everyone's guilty right away. It sure is a strange world. Personally, I have focused more on my real life relationships. The hobby is a fantasy world. And just that, a hobby. I'm on this forum today doing research on SPs for this weekend and am thankful it exists and for the people that contribute. It's just very hard for people to find trust and to communicate in electronic medium. Enjoy your weekend everybody! Happy and safe pooning to all!
This is my favourite time of year, it's so beautiful outside. Hard to be grumpy on a day like this. Perhaps more PERB members should take the time to go outside and enjoy it...just sayin'
This has gone on long enough and the topic is well and truly debated by all sides. Time to close it up.
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