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NEbaD

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wow... speechless.
If your knee-jerk reaction leaves you speechless, wait until you actually follow the link I created near the end and educate yourself to some of the information. That will leave you Shocked.

look man... you're obviously a very intelligent guy. but you got... some deep issues that you need to go talk out. with some kind of person whos a professional at such things.
I will choose to ignore your attempt towards a smug insult and reply as though you were speaking in earnest. Please keep in mind that while you may fundamentally disagree with me, I'm trying to always be polite and respectful with you, and would appreciate the same in kind. Thanks in advance.

While I feel almost everyone has at least some issues, I like to think I am in pretty good mental health. My psychologist is Dr Patrick Bartel; I've been seeing him for years, and he's amazing. I view my appointments with him the same as I view my regular gym visits, runs around the seawall, or my time writing music; basically it's part of my weekly routine towards overall health and well-being. He operates out of Boundary Plaza at Kingsway & Boundary, and if you're interested I might be able to refer you to him.

Of course we talk about lots of things, and while gender issues are far from high on the list, they have come up before. I recall it went something like this:

Me: So here's the way I see it... (blah blah blah my opinions about gender issues) ... It feels like the whole world thinks I'm crazy, like I'm some horrible misogynist or something. Am I so far off base, doc?

Dr Bartel: No, not at all; your thoughts seem mostly well thought out and you make some valid points. There are actually many scholars and thinkers who share similar views as you do. Have you heard of Dr Warren Farrell?

He then recommended I read some of Dr Farrell's work. He suggested that while my views might not be popular in current times, reading some of Dr Farrell's work and others like him would provide me with some validation as well as to expand my horizons and give me room to stretch my thoughts. Now, like Dr Bartel, I would like to recommend the same to you.

Try actually reading some of Dr Farrell's work, or watch a few of Dr Fiamengo's videos if that's more your thing, then get back to me and we can talk, if you wish. I don't just make all those links because I like the pretty blue color; I recognize my views are unpopular within broader society, therefore I provide citations to support my claims. I am always open to argument (in the Platonic sense,) but come equipped with more than "dude, you have issues," please, if you wish to contribute and have dialogue with me.

I try to make a clear distinction between opinions and facts, when I put myself out there in writing, even in a (somewhat) anonymous forum such as this. There ARE well-funded lobby groups working in Ottawa & in Washington, serving feminist agendas. This is not disputable; it is done openly and publicly. This is just one example. If you think anything I've written is in error, please point it out, and we can discuss, but you're going to have to put in the work.
 
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sevenofnine

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no offense but,
if you think your in perfect mental health why are you in therapy for years,

I would say im pretty fucked up, not going to therapy no intention of going.

I think words are cheap, action is what matters,

I have worked forever been married for ever,
seen an sp for a dozen years, life is good great but it depends how you view the sp part,

but yet I still say im fucked

everyone has issuses
the older I get the more I realize were all fucked up,

and to be honest with you,
what I have said before

the difference between a wise man and a fool.
the wise man knows he is a fool
 

Cock Throppled

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Having opinions that don't agree with one's own, is now considered a mental health issue.

The times we live in...
 

ddcanz

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no offense but,
if you think your in perfect mental health why are you in therapy for years,

I would say im pretty fucked up, not going to therapy no intention of going.

I think words are cheap, action is what matters,

I have worked forever been married for ever,
seen an sp for a dozen years, life is good great but it depends how you view the sp part,

but yet I still say im fucked

everyone has issuses
the older I get the more I realize were all fucked up,

and to be honest with you,
what I have said before

the difference between a wise man and a fool.
the wise man knows he is a fool
Pretty sure you can expect at least 1000+ words coming back your way.
I for one wait with bated breath- more links to studies and papers (yawn), selfish perspectives and yes- more keen insight as to how to conduct a proper debate on an ESCORT REVIEW BOARD!
 

ddcanz

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I think words are cheap, action is what matters,
I have to agree with this in general.
Not going to go all therapeutic, medical or clinical here. Or even relate personal experience.
Most of us have enough common sense to know the source of our issues- when we take the time to be truly and objectively introspective.
Lots of us can talk a good story, but the proof is in the pudding.
Step up or step aside.
 

NEbaD

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no offense but,
if you think your in perfect mental health why are you in therapy for years,

I would say im pretty fucked up, not going to therapy no intention of going.

I think words are cheap, action is what matters,

I have worked forever been married for ever,
seen an sp for a dozen years, life is good great but it depends how you view the sp part,

but yet I still say im fucked

everyone has issuses
the older I get the more I realize were all fucked up,

and to be honest with you,
what I have said before

the difference between a wise man and a fool.
the wise man knows he is a fool
I never said I was in perfect mental health. Marsvolta suggested I had 'serious issues' or something, and should seek help. I'm in therapy for years because, like you, I think everyone is fucked up. I lift weights for physical health; I see a therapist for mental health. Most people don't do either, that's fine. I do both. I find both make me feel better. I don't think I'm in perfect mental OR physical health, but neither am I in bad shape in either respect, because I take care of myself. That's the point I was trying to make,which it seems you didn't get.

The other stuff, about "words are cheap, action matters" and the wise man knowing he's a fool or whatever, great little epithets but I don't see your point. Not trying to be rude but I just don't get it. I don't know if you're asking about my actions, or? This is a forum, it's words. And the other, I never said I was wise, or a fool, or anything, really. I try to always keep learning, but...? I dunno. Not sure what you're getting at.

I'm glad for you that you're happily married, and that your life is good/great. Cheers!
 

NEbaD

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Pretty sure you can expect at least 1000+ words coming back your way.
I for one wait with bated breath- more links to studies and papers (yawn), selfish perspectives and yes- more keen insight as to how to conduct a proper debate on an ESCORT REVIEW BOARD!
Okay, you want to act like a dick, that's fine. I provide links because I'm not full of s**t; I voice unpopular views sometimes, so I back it up with research. If you don't like it, you can
... tell me how to conduct a proper debate on an escort review board? (oh wait, isn't vthat what I'm supposed to be doing)

Nah, I was just trying to educate the guy how to make sense when he's trying to communicate. Kinda like I'm trying to educate you not to be an a**hole, but, y'know, you can lead a horse to water, as they say. I hope you're wait was worth it.

BTW please explain selfish perspective, like, what you think that means exactly lol
 

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Nah, I was just trying to educate the guy how to make sense when he's trying to communicate.
Kinda like I'm trying to educate you not to be an a**hole, but, y'know, you can lead a horse to water, as they say. lol
There's two secrets to getting a horse to drink when you lead him to water is to run the bag off him the long way, and uphill.
When he finally gets his tired sweaty ass to the watering hole.....he wants nothing more than to stop and drink.
He also thinks it was his idea.....not realizing the decision was made an hour before you put the Spurs to him, at the bottom of that really long never ending hill.
The second secret is the cowboy sitting on his back needs to give him is the time to think about the process of drinking that water, and give him the time to actually drink.....Horses feel most vulnerable with their heads down, as there ears plug momentarily when swallowing.....When drinking ,it is at that moment they will bolt the easiest.
So leading a horse to water only lets that cowboy think he's in control....which will occur to him on the long walk home down that hill he just spurred that animal up ...to make him drink according to his personal human timeframe.
 

sevenofnine

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I know what you said, I choose to change it,
just to see if you were paying attention, I suppose.
and I said everyone is fucked up, including you and me.

I don't want to be rude,
but you think I don't get it,

but let me say this, and see if im right.

therapy is rather limited,
if your smart you can play with the therapists mind, and they tell you what you expect them to say, if your smart you know all that.
but its nice and safe, you pay them to like an sp be nice to you, if your for the most part normal, that is all your doing right paying them to be nice to you,
you don't need therapy your normal ok


it is all so simple and neat,
but life is not like that,
are you married wife kids girlfriend, just curious,
I can make a guess, as no,
the real world scares you doesn't it,

maybe im wrong, but your little shrink is nice and safe,
forgive me I don't want to be rude and insult you,

but isn't it so your therapist you don't need is so nice and safe,
and the real world is a fucking scary place,

im just asking you to think about it, maybe im off base,
but some how I don't think so,

do your self a favor have a life screw up, fuck up we all do,
you know what the sun will still rise tomorrow

something I heard is very neat I think and so true,

you can survive today, but worrying about tomorrow will kill you,

seriously fuck therapy, go have a life, fall in love meet a girl, laugh cry,
that is what it is about my friend,
crash and burn, but the fun you will have trying,

who knows.
 

ddcanz

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Okay, you want to act like a dick, that's fine. I provide links because I'm not full of s**t; I voice unpopular views sometimes, so I back it up with research. If you don't like it, you can
... tell me how to conduct a proper debate on an escort review board? (oh wait, isn't vthat what I'm supposed to be doing)

Nah, I was just trying to educate the guy how to make sense when he's trying to communicate. Kinda like I'm trying to educate you not to be an a**hole, but, y'know, you can lead a horse to water, as they say. I hope you're wait was worth it.

BTW please explain selfish perspective, like, what you think that means exactly lol
Ouch- I guess I've been told.
Name calling? C'mon- I'm sure with your encyclopaedic knowledge you can do better than A-hole and dick. So pedestrian.
I for one picked up what marsvolta was laying down- no need for your lessons in sensible communication. He's doing fine.
And save the effort directing me to the trough- I don't really give a shit. And I'm not thirsty.
Selfish perspective? No one needs to know the name of your therapist, his recommendations to you or his office location. Yikes.
 

Quarter Mile'r

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you can survive today, but worrying about tomorrow will kill you,

seriously fuck therapy, go have a life, fall in love meet a girl, laugh cry,
that is what it is about my friend,
crash and burn, but the fun you will have trying,

who knows.
The reason people worry about tomorrow is they crashed and burned today.
So tomorrow to them feels like it's an accident waiting to happen.

And why is this? Simply because they have not been taught or figured out that after
you crash and burn you have to dust yourself off and get ready for the next round.
That is life, shake it off and move on or you are dead meat!!
This is how you be your own therapist, because it's all in HOW YOU THINK.

Instead of dwelling on the negative and allowing it to consume your well being.
If that happens you are truly fucked. That kind of behaviour unchecked can lead to
anxiety disorder, panic attacks and possible drug addictions be it from self medicating
or otherwise.
Then you will need help.

That's what therapists are for. Be it psychologist or psychiatrist. Although a psychiatrist is
possibly more in a persons need if they have real physical mental health issues like
manic depression, sometimes called bi-polar disorders or schizophrenia and so on.

Remember folks, what will be, will be. If you dwell on the negative of what "will be" aka
what "may be" is the same as fortune telling, because no one can predict the future.
This will lend toward being worried about tomorrow and yes that kind of stress will
kill you. Take a look at the numbers for stress related disease and death. It's scary.

There you go....QM'r's lesson in psychology 101 for today ladies and gentlemen. :lol:

Hmmmm, now where were we? Oh yah, Sexual Harassment.





......................QM'r
 

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NEbaD

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Ouch- I guess I've been told.
Name calling? C'mon- I'm sure with your encyclopaedic knowledge you can do better than A-hole and dick. So pedestrian.
I for one picked up what marsvolta was laying down- no need for your lessons in sensible communication. He's doing fine.
And save the effort directing me to the trough- I don't really give a shit. And I'm not thirsty.
Selfish perspective? No one needs to know the name of your therapist, his recommendations to you or his office location. Yikes.
Thanks for your reply, and your clarification; glad it's right there in writing (and quoted in this reply.) It didn't disappoint.
 
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