2019 Election thread

Cock Throppled

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Liberals move back into lead nationally, with significant leads in Ontario, Quebec and Atlantic Canada.

Scheer doing well only in the three flyover provinces where none of the seats are.

NDP collapsing.


This just shows why we get the politicians we have.

When so many people are still willing to vote for a party and its leader who have such a long track record of corruption, and lack of ethics it shows they don't care, as long as i doesn't affect them too much personally.
 

overdone

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3rd quarter growth numbers are out for the Canadian economy.

3.7%, which is almost double the US rate.

I guess the carbon tax is really killing us.

Can't wait to get back to the Harper/Scheer years of no growth, no jobs and $60 billion deficits.

facts, who needs em!

Harper had one year with a 55B deficit, during a recession, the rest were around half that or lower

Crooked seems to fit

3.7%, one quarter, wow, maybe ask a economist or anyone who's got half a brain to explain why that's not going to last, what's actually behind it, it isn't Turdeau

or what the growth was since last fall, a blip isn't anything to crow about

but then reality clearly isn't a strong suit for you



The economy is growing much faster than the minuscule deficits. The debt/GDP ratio is the lowest it's been in decades.

The debt JT is adding is literally nothing compared to the $510 billion run up by Harper and Mulroney with their goofy "trickle down" economics.

If you want to worry about debt, worry about the $1 trillion annual deficits US "conservatives" are drowning the American economy in year after year. Because that could bite us in the ass sooner or later.

It's funny how right wingers couldn't care less about debt when they're in power.

Math is hard, even the CBC doesn't agree with you

that's so sad it isn't even funny

the debt/GDP was just as low during some of the years in Harper's time as PM, even when times were "so, so, so bad" lol


Junior is adding debt at as fast a rate as Harper or better, he's spending more per capita than any other PM, ever, that wasn't in a recession or at war, a fact, even Liberals would accept

the US, who cares, we'll be at a TRILLION, if Trudeau is re-elected, we're already at 700 BILLION

which is going to bite us in the ass when the recession does hit, cause it's coming

trickle down doesn't work

anymore than the Liberal

spend, borrow, spend, borrow, spend does

you can't spend your way to prosperity, specially with debt for bribes

remember the 10B deficit for infrastructure, lol

go find the facts on how little in 4 yrs they have actually got out the door into the ground

into "actual" infrastructure, not what they claim is infrastructure, it's minuscule
 

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Actually, most of Harper's deficits (sum total $160 billion; second only to Mulroney's $350 billion) were due to the 2 point GST cut that costs the treasury $30 billion each year.

The recession was mild in Canada because our banks didn't fail and our housing market didn't collapse. Thanks to Liberal banking regulations.

The Conservative records on spending, deficits, job creation and growth are really pretty fucking lousy.
 

80watts

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Pretty sure all provinces allready contribute to the private school budgets.... through land taxes....

Only rich people can afford to send their kids to private schools, and they want a tax break on that... crap....

There is nothing wrong with public schools.

Education should be the key with reading , writing and math playing a key role... not schools that have good sports teams...
 

storm rider

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This just shows why we get the politicians we have.

When so many people are still willing to vote for a party and its leader who have such a long track record of corruption, and lack of ethics it shows they don't care, as long as i doesn't affect them too much personally.
Personally I dont have too much faith in polls.I deal with people all day long and there is a lot of dis-trust and outright hatred for Trudeau among the general public.The fact that he is dodging 60% of the televised debates has to tell you something.The Lieberals
as a party DONT want Trudeau speaking with his own words the Party wants him reading from the carefully crafted "script" written for him by Gerald Butts.

As for the NDP...um yeah they are taking a shit kicking.The latest wave to rock the NDP boat was how all 14 NDP slated candidates for New Brunswick mutineed and left the NDP and joined the Greens without any notice.....just plain up and jumped out of the boat....I think this is pretty low and it smacks of a desperate grab for a sliver of Power by the Greens given their recent showing in the recent New Brunswick Provincial election.Do the NDP have a shot of forming Government.....about the same chance of me nailing Taylor Swift.I say 3 months after the hustings or less Jagmeet Singh is getting a leadership review and then getting turfed.

I do think Trudeau ducking out on all of the debates that are not controlled by his current government run media monopoly is going to hurt him.The very idea of not defending his record of governance is going to piss off a lot of people.

On a different tangeant....take a look at Britain.....Brexit happened 3 years ago and it has still not been delivered.Nothing but the shit end of the stick for Britain thus far and entitled politicians the are ignoring the will of the British electorate.After the latest crap Boris Johnson called for the 3rd election in 5 years and the commie Jeremy Corbyn refused because he knows he would lose as the Brexit Party lead by Nigel Farage might possibly win a strong Majority given the Brexit results from the EU election.

Every British expat I have talked to about Brexit over the last 3 years is of the same opinion as me....Brexit means leave and get it done even if it is a HARD Brexit with no deal.Get out of the EU and stop having un-elected bureaucrats passing laws for Britain.

SR
 

storm rider

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The SNC fiasco rattled many peoples Faith in Trudeau, I'm sure that is going to cost him a lot of votes.
It wont do much Damage in Quebec and that was the ploy/game.

I am sorry you live in Revelstoke.Lived there and glad I escaped.It is a shithole of a town and far too few escape it.My best advice is to flee and run.....get out of that shithole and grab for the brass ring.

SR
 

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It wont do much Damage in Quebec and that was the ploy/game.

I am sorry you live in Revelstoke.Lived there and glad I escaped.It is a shithole of a town and far too few escape it.My best advice is to flee and run.....get out of that shithole and grab for the brass ring.

SR
I moved from Vancouver to here, about a year and a half ago, by choice, and love it!
 

overdone

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Actually, most of Harper's deficits (sum total $160 billion; second only to Mulroney's $350 billion) were due to the 2 point GST cut that costs the treasury $30 billion each year.

The recession was mild in Canada because our banks didn't fail and our housing market didn't collapse. Thanks to Liberal banking regulations.

The Conservative records on spending, deficits, job creation and growth are really pretty fucking lousy.
lol, again, you don't seem to understand what FACTS ARE

YOU DON'T GET TO MAKE THEM UP

your opinions aren't facts

this is from the CBC, hardly a proud supporter of Harper

https://www.cbc.ca/news/multimedia/canada-s-deficits-and-surpluses-1963-to-2015-1.3042571

144 Billion in Deficits, actual $ in those years, now add in the surpluses, you get 119.4 Billion

Mulroney 293 Billion in actual $ in the years he was in

you can't even get basic facts right

here's another one, from Macleans, uses Canadian Taxpayers chart, if you blow it up it's readable, by 100's, but you would assume they believe it to be accurate

https://www.macleans.ca/economy/economicanalysis/75-charts-every-canadian-should-watch-in-2017/

Mulroney, around 300 billion, Harper a little over 100 Billion, so again, pretty much what the CBC says

yeah, the recession in Canada was mild, ffs, what colour is the sky in your delusional world?
 

thodisipagal

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In popular vote, Liberals and Conservatives are running neck to neck nationally. Conservatives support in Alberta and Saskatchewan is sky high. Unfortunately for Scheer, that's not where most seats are.

Liberals are strong in seat-rich Ontario and Quebec. Trudeau, therefore, is more likely to win the election.
 

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I am sorry you live in Revelstoke.Lived there and glad I escaped.It is a shithole of a town and far too few escape it.My best advice is to flee and run.....get out of that shithole and grab for the brass ring.

SR
Is there literally anything that you don’t shit on? Dude didn’t ask for your opinion on Revelstoke, so don’t give it.
 

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There are so many wild cards in the deck, I would totally disregard polls. Things can change in an instant. Recall what derailed the Cons mid campaign:

Cons will pivot to point out he rinsed the cup.

:rolleyes:
 

storm rider

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Is there literally anything that you don’t shit on? Dude didn’t ask for your opinion on Revelstoke, so don’t give it.
Opinions are like assholes.....everybody has one.

I said what I said about Revelstoke from having LIVED there.It is a whistle stop shithole.Had a I never LIVED there my life would be that much better.

SR
 

Gardener

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Opinions are like assholes.....everybody has one.

I said what I said about Revelstoke from having LIVED there.It is a whistle stop shithole.Had a I never LIVED there my life would be that much better.

SR
How is your negative experience in Revy relevant in any way to this thread? Stay on topic!
 

storm rider

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How is your negative experience in Revy relevant in any way to this thread? Stay on topic!
I concur and apologize to all members participating in this thread.

To get this thread back on track I would like to ask the following question with regards to the upcoming hustings.

Do you think Trudeau is dodging the majority of the televised debates as he is afraid to campaign on his record of governance.A simple yes or no question that requires no rhetoric.

SR
 

Hugh Jass

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I concur and apologize to all members participating in this thread.

To get this thread back on track I would like to ask the following question with regards to the upcoming hustings.

Do you think Trudeau is dodging the majority of the televised debates as he is afraid to campaign on his record of governance.A simple yes or no question that requires no rhetoric.

SR
I would say yes.
 
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