I was sorry to learn from threads on this board that Jessica has a pimp. I really like her and now I feel badly that I contributed to an arrangement that keeps her in a bad way. I don't want this hobby to cause harm to women. I don't want to support destructive drug habits or abusive boyfriends. I've given up on the Asian providers because I think they are being trafficked. I won't see SP's whose incall location is in public housing and they turn tricks to stave off grinding poverty. I hate to think how common it must be that SP's have sexual abuse in their past and those bad experiences have launched them into business. I am looking for your collective advice for options that are guilt free. Please recommend SP's that you know meet this criteria: she is financially independent but wants to be fairly paid for services rendered, and she engages in our hobby on her own volition because she simply likes having and giving good, fun sex. Thanks.
Ethical pooning
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I have had similar concerns about this, though my main concern has been not promoting a drug habit, both for the girls sake and my own health. I don't think I would ever go to an incall in public housing either.
With regard to girls with pimps, I think that is a loaded term and a pimp in the "traditional" sense (keeping girls working through drugs and violence as well as taking much of their pay) is a terrible thing. That said, I think there are girls that choose to be in this profession, but want some protection and so hire or have some partnership with a man. Is this man a pimp? a bodyguard? How do you know if the man out in the car was Jessica's pimp? All I've seen is speculation.
As far as the travelling Asian women, perhaps I am being wilfully ignorant, but any of the girls I've seen from vipotg have seemed genuinely happy, friendly, and enthusiastic, all traits I would not expect from victims of human trafficking...
Personally, I try to choose girls to see in an ethical manner, but this hobby is pretty full of grey areas...
With regard to girls with pimps, I think that is a loaded term and a pimp in the "traditional" sense (keeping girls working through drugs and violence as well as taking much of their pay) is a terrible thing. That said, I think there are girls that choose to be in this profession, but want some protection and so hire or have some partnership with a man. Is this man a pimp? a bodyguard? How do you know if the man out in the car was Jessica's pimp? All I've seen is speculation.
As far as the travelling Asian women, perhaps I am being wilfully ignorant, but any of the girls I've seen from vipotg have seemed genuinely happy, friendly, and enthusiastic, all traits I would not expect from victims of human trafficking...
Personally, I try to choose girls to see in an ethical manner, but this hobby is pretty full of grey areas...
Wow one reply to ethical pooning what does that say about us? Ok how about this for ethical pooning now I know I'm gonna get a lot of the ladies mad at me for suggesting this, but do I care NO. How about the next 2 sp's we see we pick single mothers with children milfs if you will. This will help the single mothers to take care of their kids, a lot of you guys have kids so you can relate to this better. Guys can post suggestions on good Milfs ones with no pimps etc. OK now Sherlock does this relate to another post I made yes it does you figure it out. I will not post any recommendations myself so as not to look biased.
Cool! I thought a post like this one would be bashed here, since I've noticed the same with the Asian girl I saw some months ago. She was clearly not happy about it, and her lack of English was frustrating for her as it was for me. She seemed to want to say more, but couldn't. I even felt bad about the experience in retrospective because this was clear AFTER we've done the deed.
No more Asians for me.
As for guilt free SPs, I would recommend Kayla. She is AWESOME and she clearly does this because she wants to. She is an amazon in body and soul.
Also, the girls from MGF seem to know what they're doing (at least the 2 I've seen).
No more Asians for me.
As for guilt free SPs, I would recommend Kayla. She is AWESOME and she clearly does this because she wants to. She is an amazon in body and soul.
Also, the girls from MGF seem to know what they're doing (at least the 2 I've seen).
The poster who claims she has a pimp is full of shit his (or her) first ever post was on the 29th of march.This is her third trip to Winnipeg over a 2 year period and while I have seen her every time I have yet to see the mystery man with the dog and I paid special attention last time.She also does her own booking which is more than u can say for the other traveling ladies.
I did ask her a few questions and she claims she travels with a friend who also does escorting.
I did ask her a few questions and she claims she travels with a friend who also does escorting.
I'm curious what other people's thoughts are on the ladies from vipotg and candyland. As I said, I didn't get the feeling that they were being "trafficked" at all, though I have nothing factual to base that on. That is not something I had thought of at all to be honest, but it is certainly not something I would like to support.
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Some of the VIPOTG ladies are taking post-graduate degrees and are scuba instructors. "Trafficking"??? Only in the delusional minds of the Canadian lib-left.I'm curious what other people's thoughts are on the ladies from vipotg and candyland are. As I said, I didn't get the feeling that they were being "trafficked" at all, though I have nothing factual to base that on. That is not something I had thought of at all to be honest, but it is certainly not something I would like to support.
I saw one vipotg girl a few months ago, Pearl. I did not get the feeling she was unhappy or under coercion. But it is true that fear might turn them into good actors.
Exactly Master69. Every lady I've met from Vipotg or CandyLand is independent. They use the agencies to have a place to stay, have someone to book the appointments, and provide a source of regulars. They all have their passports, own bank accounts, cell phones, laptops, ipads, etc. Free to leave anytime and some do. There is no trafficking or coercion. It's a mutually beneficial arrangement between them, the agencies and the gentlemen. Now their underlying motives to be in the industry are as diverse as any of the ladies. Some are younger and this is the best and fastest way to save for school, house, business, etc. Others are more mature and know their options are more limited and the clock is ticking on their profitable years. Some just have bad gambling and spending habits. Some provide great service, others not so much, some are stunning, some average, but all deserve our respect.
Wow! That's a ALOT of knowledge about these girls who (most of them) barely know any English. I guess it is possible that you know their language.Exactly Master69. Every lady I've met from Vipotg or CandyLand is independent. They use the agencies to have a place to stay, have someone to book the appointments, and provide a source of regulars. They all have their passports, own bank accounts, cell phones, laptops, ipads, etc. Free to leave anytime and some do. There is no trafficking or coercion. It's a mutually beneficial arrangement between them, the agencies and the gentlemen. Now their underlying motives to be in the industry are as diverse as any of the ladies. Some are younger and this is the best and fastest way to save for school, house, business, etc. Others are more mature and know their options are more limited and the clock is ticking on their profitable years. Some just have bad gambling and spending habits. Some provide great service, others not so much, some are stunning, some average, but all deserve our respect.
I can only talk about my one experience and she seemed quite sad.. could be just homesickness too. I'm not saying that she was trafficked. What I'm saying is that I don't feel comfortable with my perceived higher chance of them being trafficked, therefore I pass.
Wow that is such a good post farabundo that is exactly the way I feel about several of these women, you see them once a week for a year or so and you develop a friendship with them. A lot of these women have fantastic personalities and are obviously quite beautiful, so I end up hoping that they quit and go on to a normal life, husband, house, picket fence and kids. Unfortunately that's not how it usually turns out for them, but I can always dream. For us its the eternal struggle between the big head and the small head. With the big head losing out unfortunately for us and for them.
