Easiest & Most Discreet Way to Offer a Session Deposit

felixthecat

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The recipient does not, but retail chains use face recognition to look for known thieves and track customer behaviour. Amazon itself already offers Amazon Rekognition for free as a promo.
Thanks, now I don't feel like the most paranoid person in the room. There are risks with any approach, but buying a physical gift card for cash still seems to be among the safest of all the alternatives.

Facial recognition by a retailer does not give them much - they'd need to cross-check the person with the specific gift card number. Even if they can track it, they don't know where it was sent and who claimed it. It would take effort and a combined data from the retailer and Amazon (for Amazon cards) to figure it out. It might happen with a court order during a high-profile investigation, and that's about it. Unless the Big Brother has it covered, in which case we are screwed anyway.

Amazon eGift card provides convenience at a cost of a bit more risk. It has paper trail within one company - a single customer support representative at Amazon could probably connect people who claimed the gift card and who bought it (if it was bought with a real name / email address / credit card). I could accept this small risk, or could get more tricky by creating a separate Amazon account under an alias for buying eGift cards and fund it by a yet another paid-for-cash prepaid card or Amazon card.

Gift cards for smaller amounts won't raise an eyebrow. Purchasing gift cards for large amounts should attract more scrutiny than using cash. Whatever makes gift cards great for anonymous transfers, also makes them ideal for money laundering and fraud. From The Guardian article "Attempts to stay anonymous on the web will only put the NSA on your trail": "Her husband tried to buy $500 of Amazon gift vouchers with cash, only to discover that this triggered a warning: retailers have to report people buying large numbers of gift vouchers with cash because, well, you know, they're obviously money launderers."
 

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Thanks for all the advise folks. NEW PROBLEM....

Bought a $50 gift card from Shoppers yesterday. The clerk opened up the tab revealing the bar code right in front of me. Went to my car and took pictures of front and back and sent an email to a SP that I wish to book with tommorow morning and included said pictures. She just contacted me back stating that the card has already been redeemed or validated. Tried to go online with Amazon but they said an answer would be 24-48 hours away. I have an account (surprised me as i didn't think i did) but cannot remember my password to see if I can redeem it at my end. Don't have that sort of time if my window to session is tomorrow AM. Any advise?
 

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How about crypto currency?
Not that anonymous, high commissions, transactions slow sometimes, unstable exchange rate, taxable capital gains and losses that are a major pain to calculate correctly (and CRA will try to enforce), chances to lose your crypto if an exchange gets hacked or your digital wallet gets corrupted or the anonymous crypto developers decide so.

Too many annoyances for it to be a preferred method of payment, I think. But ok to use as an option if nothing else works.
 

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Thanks for all the advise folks. NEW PROBLEM....

Bought a $50 gift card from Shoppers yesterday. The clerk opened up the tab revealing the bar code right in front of me. Went to my car and took pictures of front and back and sent an email to a SP that I wish to book with tommorow morning and included said pictures. She just contacted me back stating that the card has already been redeemed or validated. Tried to go online with Amazon but they said an answer would be 24-48 hours away. I have an account (surprised me as i didn't think i did) but cannot remember my password to see if I can redeem it at my end. Don't have that sort of time if my window to session is tomorrow AM. Any advise?
Hopefully this isn't it. Is she reputable? Could she have redeemed it?
 

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Standing down.....Problem has been solved. The issue was the old guy trying to do this fancy gift card shit.

Note too all other old bastards....The number under the paper tab means nothing, you still have to open the fucking package to get at the real number located on the card. Took a pic of that and the lady said it worked perfectly!

Now I just have to be able to keep it up tomorrow!!!!! Damn my life is hard!
 
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Looking for a little help.

I have always given potential SP references from previous SPs in lou of a deposit. This has always worked well for me. I totally understand why SP ask for a deposit to weed out the time wasters and no show “arse holes”. In the past however, if a SP insisted on a deposit, I thanked them for their time and moved on. Recently I have had a few bucket list ladies insist on the deposit which leads me to think I might have to change my style for the future.

I need help with how to do the deposit thing. What is the most discreet way of doing this without using a bank account to do an e-transfer? I have cash in my pocket for my hobby, money in the bank for my daily life, and do not ever want to mix the two.

I am guessing there is a very easy solution, but I have never done this type of transaction. Can you help a technicality challenged guy out?
Where can I buy these cards? Save-On, London Drug?
Thanks for all the advise folks. NEW PROBLEM....

Bought a $50 gift card from Shoppers yesterday. The clerk opened up the tab revealing the bar code right in front of me. Went to my car and took pictures of front and back and sent an email to a SP that I wish to book with tommorow morning and included said pictures. She just contacted me back stating that the card has already been redeemed or validated. Tried to go online with Amazon but they said an answer would be 24-48 hours away. I have an account (surprised me as i didn't think i did) but cannot remember my password to see if I can redeem it at my end. Don't have that sort of time if my window to session is tomorrow AM. Any advise?
Standing down.....Problem has been solved. The issue was the old guy trying to do this fancy gift card shit.

Note too all other old bastards....The number under the paper tab means nothing, you still have to open the fucking package to get at the real number located on the card. Took a pic of that and the lady said it worked perfectly!

Now I just have to be able to keep it up tomorrow!!!!! Damn my life is hard!

Just curious Dave, how Things worked out for You ?

Was it worth, a little extra effort ?
Or was it a case, of You still haven't found, what You're looking for ?


Cheers
 
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My ATF has a reloadable mastercard for this purpose. The top-ups are purchased at any 7-11 , I shoot her a text with the voucher number and VOILA she has her cash anonymously. It's perfect. This way,if she needs actual cash for something she need only hit an ATM.
 

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My ATF has a reloadable mastercard for this purpose. The top-ups are purchased at any 7-11 , I shoot her a text with the voucher number and VOILA she has her cash anonymously. It's perfect. This way,if she needs actual cash for something she need only hit an ATM.
Are there any fees involved? If you purchase $100.00, do you only pay $100.00, and does she get $100.00?
 

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Are there any fees involved? If you purchase $100.00, do you only pay $100.00, and does she get $100.00?
No fees per se, but I imagine tax is likely added on. I'm not sure as I have always purchased other items as well.
 

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No fees per se, but I imagine tax is likely added on. I'm not sure as I have always purchased other items as well.
There shouldn't be any taxes.
 

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The deposit thing was a big pain in the ass. I understand why the ladies require it...but still a pain.

The session was worth the hassle however. I would do it again.
 

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Gift cards are the easiest way for you - if you don't want any paper trail. Shoppers Drug mart sells amazon cards that you can pay cash for - up to $500/card. And there are no fees to anyone.

For larger deposits, physically depositing cash into her business account.

Crypto currency if she takes it
 

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I quite honestly, only have a rudimentary understanding, of how Bitcoin works .
But, from that knowledge, I am aware of its complete discretion !

What I don't know, is what is the most practical, and convenient way to purchase Bitcoins .

I'm interested in possibly using Bitcoin, as a future Deposit .

Amazon Gift cards, seem a little impractical, for any amount over $100 .

Thanks in advance, to any of the Tech savvy, for your Help !



Cheers
 
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I quite honestly, only have a rudimentary understanding, of how Bitcoin works .
But, from that knowledge, I am aware of its complete discretion !
No, Bitcoin does not promise anonymity. It can be quite the opposite: transaction history is posted on the web for everybody to see (so called "blockchain"). While the blockchain does not show your name, a sequence of transactions might expose you if you don't know what you are doing.

There is also a paper trail if you buy/sell bitcoin on an exchange, they are increasingly monitored by governments for money laundering.
 

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It is a little worrying when someone goes so far as not wanting to send Bitcoin. Your S/O shouldn't be able to trace that. Also deposits make me feel safe knowing that this person doesn't intend to hurt me because of the paper trail.
We can see the negative impact on my popularity.
 
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