Alberta finally diversifying its economy

appleomac

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I always scratch my head with this type of stuff. I was born and raised in Vancouver, spent a significant portion of my career in Alberta and now live half the year in Alberta and the other half in Vancouver. Growing up when BC struggled with things like the pulp/paper industries basically collapsing, the fishing industries going through booms and busts and the forestry industries taking it on the chin by US softwood lumber duties - I don't ever recall average Albertans celebrating how BC industries are suffering economically. It's only when I'm back in Vancouver do I see/hear, dare I say "glee" when they hear about Alberta taking it on the chin due to low oil prices. Obviously it's not all Vancouverites, but certainly it's enough where it is definitely noticeable.

Perhaps I'm over-thinking and your post was a simple attempt at humor.
 

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I always scratch my head with this type of stuff. I was born and raised in Vancouver, spent a significant portion of my career in Alberta and now live half the year in Alberta and the other half in Vancouver. Growing up when BC struggled with things like the pulp/paper industries basically collapsing, the fishing industries going through booms and busts and the forestry industries taking it on the chin by US softwood lumber duties - I don't ever recall average Albertans celebrating how BC industries are suffering economically. It's only when I'm back in Vancouver do I see/hear, dare I say "glee" when they hear about Alberta taking it on the chin due to low oil prices. Obviously it's not all Vancouverites, but certainly it's enough where it is definitely noticeable.

Perhaps I'm over-thinking and your post was a simple attempt at humor.
I have noticed that mindset.I grew up in Alberta and have lived in Chilliwack/Abbottsford/Mission/North Vancouver and Williams Lake when I lived in BC.I moved back to Calgary in 1998 just when the economy was on a slight simmer.

Whilst there was some hatred from Alberta over oil & gas that was during the NEP under Trudeau version 1 when the price of oil cratered and interest rates were in the double digits at 12%+ and people were literally selling their homes for $1 because they could not afford the mortgage.

There is a lot of hatred from BC towards Alberta though and it is unjust.Sadly a lot of that is promoted and encouraged by paid protesters and if people think that climate activism is not funded/fueled by foreign funds you have you head up your ass.

When it comes down to brass tacks over the last 10 years Alberta has sent 200 BILLION to Ottawa and that has been distributed to the have not Provinces and mostly to Quebec.

It makes no sense at all that Canada is taking in oil from OPEC countries to meet the needs out east when the need could be met by Alberta.Instead Alberta oil is labelled as "DIRTY" by the people opposed to it yet they have no problem with human rights abuses and "UNETHICAL" practices.

Meanwhile we have an utter joke of a PM who has now jacked up the budget deficit to 113 BILLION whilst facing the worst economic slow down in the history of the country and at the same time tried to sneakily go for a power grab so as to avoid any kind of confidence vote in Parliament whilst he has a Minority Government.Trudeau the elder did his best to fuck over Canada and his Globalist cocksucker son who has lived off his protected trust fund all of his life is now delivering the coup de gras and finishing the job.He has no care of the people.His money is protected same as his salary and when he gets kicked out he gets a fat golden pension paid for by the people he has fucked over.

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marsvolta

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what isn't appreciated from Alberta is the constant push to keep things just as they are! its never ending! big oil good, any other ideas bad! big oil distorts economies and politics. its done so in Canada and its doubly done so at the focus point, Alberta.

no, i've pointed out repeatedly here how Alberta's distorted view of the world means that there is no room for any kind of change, no need to put money away for a rainy day, no need to diversify the economy... like all Albertans are somehow in love with boom and bust. like thats a good thing! and so they got Jason, who immediately dropped any funding for the tech sector and any other diversification! because conservative politics in Alberta is just another name for big oil. and big oil wants to keep themselves as the only game in town.

and now it seems Canada is going to have to bail out what is supposed to be the richest province in the country!? are you shitting me? where is all that big oil money that got made? oh right, it got funneled out of the country!

so now that Alberta oil is worthless... do you think that Albertans might think this?

As the world oil price plunges, it's time for Alberta to think outside the oilpatch

over the dead bodies of big oil and the PCP!
 

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what isn't appreciated from Alberta is the constant push to keep things just as they are! its never ending! big oil good, any other ideas bad! big oil distorts economies and politics. its done so in Canada and its doubly done so at the focus point, Alberta.

no, i've pointed out repeatedly here how Alberta's distorted view of the world means that there is no room for any kind of change, no need to put money away for a rainy day, no need to diversify the economy... like all Albertans are somehow in love with boom and bust. like thats a good thing! and so they got Jason, who immediately dropped any funding for the tech sector and any other diversification! because conservative politics in Alberta is just another name for big oil. and big oil wants to keep themselves as the only game in town.

and now it seems Canada is going to have to bail out what is supposed to be the richest province in the country!? are you shitting me? where is all that big oil money that got made? oh right, it got funneled out of the country!

so now that Alberta oil is worthless... do you think that Albertans might think this?

As the world oil price plunges, it's time for Alberta to think outside the oilpatch

over the dead bodies of big oil and the PCP!
Nobody from Alberta cares what you think.
 

marsvolta

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Nobody from Alberta cares what you think.
i'm not asking them to care what i think. i'm asking them to think for themselves instead of being herded around like a bunch of cattle by "separatists", "conservatives" and "big oil"! so much for fucking hating "socialism"... since Alberta will surely have their hands as deep into the rest of Canadas pockets now!
 

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i'm not asking them to care what i think. i'm asking them to think for themselves instead of being herded around like a bunch of cattle by "separatists", "conservatives" and "big oil"! so much for fucking hating "socialism"... since Alberta will surely have their hands as deep into the rest of Canadas pockets now!
Nobody from Alberta cares to hear what you have to say.
 

marsvolta

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Nobody from Alberta cares to hear what you have to say.
yeah, i know. got no good argument... just keep quiet. must be pretty damaging to be banging on about equalization payments forever and then... you needing them and all.

and actually, i know a lot of Albertans who are plenty interested because they think the same way. its just that they seem to be the minority. so you don't need to talk for "all" Albertans...
 

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Mars, I think maybe your 'barrel of monkeys' hit too close to home with Albertans like MasterB acting like personified Kikazarus - not wanting to hear the hard truth about their beloved worthless tar, while standing in line for that socialist bailout from Trudeau.

Maybe they should employ Albertans for $2000 a month to properly start cleaning up the mess of all those orphaned wells in their province and at least get some value for that handout.
 

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Maybe the Alberta haters should stop using the gasoline, diesel and jet fuel that comes from Alberta, that allows the lower mainland to get around. The dog rider and the douche from Mars in particular. Just sayin.
 

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Maybe the Alberta haters should stop using the gasoline, diesel and jet fuel that comes from Alberta, that allows the lower mainland to get around. The dog rider and the douche from Mars in particular. Just sayin.
Yeah or maybe Alberta should have the right to turn off the taps literally and physically.As the late Mr Klein said "let them freeze in the dark".

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Maybe the Alberta haters should stop using the gasoline, diesel and jet fuel that comes from Alberta, that allows the lower mainland to get around. The dog rider and the douche from Mars in particular. Just sayin.
They probably just ride around on their bicycles anyway, don’t use much gas.
 

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Maybe pavement will be cheaper... you know the stuff all our roads are made from.

The amount of hydrocarbons in the bitumen is high, fracking it produces the gasoline, diesel and jet fuel, and all plastics, but most I think(oil and gas) comes from outside. Again it is a export cheap to other nations and buy back the finished staples we use in every day life. This includes all plastics.

Although with the isolation (Covid-19) in Canada its nice to see 3D printing coming to help to make stuff like face shield etc, but it still needs plastic.

Another thing I see is the grocery stores with the plastic sheets at the registers... That cost a pretty penny.... Acrylic is cheap, but not here in Canada.
 

masterblaster

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Maybe pavement will be cheaper... you know the stuff all our roads are made from.

The amount of hydrocarbons in the bitumen is high, fracking it produces the gasoline, diesel and jet fuel
Refining is done by catalytic cracking and distillation either atmospheric or vacuum distillation although the term fractionation is sometimes used. Back in the old days Mobil was known as the socony-vacuum oil company.
 

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Perhaps I'm over-thinking and your post was a simple attempt at humor.
More like a simpleton’s attempt at humour. The OP probably doesn’t understand how many petroleum products went into manufacturing the device he is using to spew his simplistic economic ideas
 

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Mars, I think maybe your 'barrel of monkeys' hit too close to home with Albertans like MasterB acting like personified Kikazarus - not wanting to hear the hard truth about their beloved worthless tar, while standing in line for that socialist bailout from Trudeau.

Maybe they should employ Albertans for $2000 a month to properly start cleaning up the mess of all those orphaned wells in their province and at least get some value for that handout.
Waiting line to have all of the equalization money Alberta oil has paid into the have not Provinces over the years returned? That’s now a “handout”? You enviro-morons are truly blind to economic reality.
 
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