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Thread: Florida man with coronavirus says drug touted by Trump saved his life

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    Florida man with coronavirus says drug touted by Trump saved his life

    "Rio Giardinieri, 52, told Los Angeles’ Fox 11 that he struggled with horrendous back pain, headaches, cough and fatigue for five days after catching COVID-19, possibly at a conference in New York.

    Doctors at the Joe DiMaggio Children’s Hospital in South Florida diagnosed him with the coronavirus and pneumonia and put him on oxygen in the ICU, he told the outlet.

    After more than a week, doctors told him there was nothing more they could do and, on Friday evening, Giardinieri said goodbye to his wife and three children.

    https://nypost.com/2020/03/22/florid...aved-his-life/

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    "New York state is also running a clinical trial beginning Tuesday of a treatment regimen of hydroxychloroquine and azithromycin, two drugs that doctors in Africa and elsewhere say they’ve seen good results in fighting the virus."

    https://www.cnbc.com/2020/03/22/coro...ly-buying.html

    "'They could work’: Coronavirus drug trials to begin in N.Y. state, Cuomo says"

    "...New York State is about to begin testing drugs for treatment of coronavirus, Gov. Cuomo said Sunday.

    The feds have given the state 70,000 doses of hydroxychloroquine, 10,000 doses of zithromax and 750,000 doses of chloroquine. Testing will kick off Tuesday, Cuomo said.

    “The president is optimistic about these drugs and we are all optimistic that it could work,” the governor said at a press conference. “I’ve spoken with a number of health officials and there is a good basis to believe that they could work.”

    https://www.nydailynews.com/coronavi...lly-story.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by lenny View Post
    "Rio Giardinieri, 52, told Los Angeles’ Fox 11 that he struggled with horrendous back pain, headaches, cough and fatigue for five days after catching COVID-19, possibly at a conference in New York.

    Doctors at the Joe DiMaggio Children’s Hospital in South Florida diagnosed him with the coronavirus and pneumonia and put him on oxygen in the ICU, he told the outlet.

    After more than a week, doctors told him there was nothing more they could do and, on Friday evening, Giardinieri said goodbye to his wife and three children.

    https://nypost.com/2020/03/22/florid...aved-his-life/
    Ummm…..basically he recovered naturally, the drug had nothing to do with it.

    His doctors probably told him the infection would run its course and there was nothing they could do to change that. He interpreted that as he was going to die, which he clearly was not.

    Hydroxychoroquine supposedly blocks the virus from infecting cells. If he was having difficulty breathing that is actually a result of his immune system attacking cells that already infected. The symptoms are an indication of the immune system doing its job and clearing the infection. Unfortunately that sometimes kills the patient, especially if they have some underlying medical issue. The drug would have done nothing in his particular situation. If it works at all, it would be used for people in the very early stages on infection or as a prophylactic for at risk populations. It will NOT cure them.

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    People shouldn’t be spreading false information. That’s trumps job.

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    For the love of god, articles like this make me cringe the fuck out.

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    Also, the drug is very easy to OD on. The difference between a therapeutic dose and the amount that will cause serious health risks is relatively small. For that reason it is not used so much as an antimalerial these days, and I believe it is even banned in some countries. It is an old drug and most likely would not be approved if brought to the market in modern testing trials today. That is not unusual, many old drugs would not pass clinical trials today.

    If you are interested, it works by suppressing acidification in endosomes, a process which inhibits uptake of any pathogens that enter cells through that route. Basically that means once you are infected with a virus and have a heavy viral load, with your immune system active and responding, it is not going to do anything at all.

    Of course Trump knowns nothing about all of this. It was kind of entertaining watching the guy standing next to him (who actually does know about this stuff) cringe while he was sprouting his BS.

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    That didn't take long, Arizona man died from taking drug touted by Trump. His wife in critical condition.


    https://www.google.ca/amp/s/kfor.com...-covid-19/amp/

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    Health care workers I know are panicking because patients are trying to lie about symptoms to gain access to the drug, yet there are doctors still prescribing it and pharmacies are running low. If you want health advice: listen to someone credible (ie. Trump is not credible for anything medical, or well.... pretty much anything period).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Horn_dawg View Post
    That didn't take long, Arizona man died from taking drug touted by Trump. His wife in critical condition.


    https://www.google.ca/amp/s/kfor.com...-covid-19/amp/

    https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/23/healt...ath/index.html

    Can't wait for trump to start blaming drs for not doin nething about it by end of week...... First day over 100+ deaths reported in US due to Corona..... Their surgeon general said it's gonna get waay worse this week alone.. Its only Monday
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    Re: the Arizona death - what the man ingested was NOT the drug (hydroxychloroquine) but something else (chloroquine phosphate) entirely.
    Last edited by wetnose; 03-23-2020 at 10:05 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tugela View Post
    Ummm…..basically he recovered naturally, the drug had nothing to do with it.

    His doctors probably told him the infection would run its course and there was nothing they could do to change that. He interpreted that as he was going to die, which he clearly was not.

    Hydroxychoroquine supposedly blocks the virus from infecting cells. If he was having difficulty breathing that is actually a result of his immune system attacking cells that already infected. The symptoms are an indication of the immune system doing its job and clearing the infection. Unfortunately that sometimes kills the patient, especially if they have some underlying medical issue. The drug would have done nothing in his particular situation. If it works at all, it would be used for people in the very early stages on infection or as a prophylactic for at risk populations. It will NOT cure them.
    Are you a doctor & on the front lines of this crisis?

    This NY doctor (see url below) says it is being used to cure those who are critically ill with COVID-19. Compare the OP.

    https://therightscoop.com/watch-ny-d...d-zero-deaths/

    He also says it is being used already & widely in Metro NY with success. Especially for desperately ill people.

    The video adds that stunning results with this drug have been seen in China & France. And it could be a game changer.

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    The Arizona man died from ingesting fish-tank cleaner that had chloroquine phosphate as one of the ingredients

    https://nationalpost.com/news/arizon...loroquine-for-

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    NY doctor says results with the success of the drug highly significant & Trump is right:

    https://video.foxnews.com/v/6143589956001#sp=show-clips
    Last edited by lenny; 03-24-2020 at 12:14 AM. Reason: spelling

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    I don't doubt that this could be true. But for the love of god, please use reputable sources.

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    Quote Originally Posted by g eazy View Post
    I don't doubt that this could be true. But for the love of god, please use reputable sources.
    I assume you think you know what you mean by "reputable sources" & by "this" (whatever that refers to). So why don't you share your opinion on what you think they are (i.e. a full and complete list of them). Or just consult them yourself & report back here what they have to say, with links to your sources. That might be more constructive.

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