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    A New and Glorious World

    Well it will be interesting in the next few weeks, as people self-isolate to help prevent the spread of Covid-19. So lets skip that and move on to when its months from now. What will our society be like?

    Travelling, as I can see now people from Canada are spread out over the world with no planning how to get them home. So how does this affect future trips abroad into the world?

    Do you enter a country and get treated like a chemical spill victim. Air lock/Dirty area/airlock/wash area/airlock/clean area/Air lock. (if you need to control the air, the air has highest pressure from the clean area and transits down to the dirty area; and only 1 airlock open at a time). Sit in isolation for 14 days. Then go about your touristy stuff; Then when you get home do the same thing again.

    I doubt it, look at any airport, they are designed to have mass flow through them. So going through that routine would be so slow......

    I can see the technology where they would temp check your body temperature automatically passing through areas of an airport. If you have a high temperature, you wouldn't be permitted on a flight....etc

    So if your flight is job related and you can't fly, How does that affect your job, Will employers make allowances for this?

    What I can see is more appreciation for our health care system, maybe revamped up a bit. Larger testing facilities that can be opened to test mass samples etc. For a quicker return on tests. The government will probably hold a larger stock in medical supplies (masks, gowns, ventilators, etc) which needs to be kept locally by big cities etc..... a lot of future investment....

    What is the new normal going to be?

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    Everything is contingent on finding either a cure, or vaccination to preven viral attacks, but if that doesn't happent effectively, I see international travel almost disappearing.

    Industries related to travel will be decimated for decades. Te cruise ship industry might disappear except for very high-end, limited travel on small ships, not the floating cities that they were building.

    Probably one of the biggest impacts will be from trying to get insurance. It would be prohibitive to most people, but travelling seniors will simply be unable to get travel insurance at any price.

    Then there are mass transit issues, ride sharing, sporting events, and mass gaherings for concerts, festivals, religious ceremonies, orgies and even weddings.

    Then, there's the sex industry - virtual reality will boom for that, as will even more porn, if that's possible.

    Prostitution will always exist, but there might be fewer participants. Depending on their risk factors, and degree of risk they're willing to take, the older, richer clients might not be as plentiful.

    What about open houses for realtors? Who wants possibly infectious strangers plodding through your house? Same for show homes, display suites, and lottery prize homes.

    Will simple grocery shopping never be the same? Barriers, a return to one-use plastic bags, limited store hours, retstrictions on how many allowed into stores and hand sanitiizers every ten meters?

    Look at the extra time involved in monitoring, limiting people, keepng distance, cleaning and disinfecting anywhere the public uses.

    This won't be an easy ride ever again.
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    The future of travel.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Cock Throppled View Post
    Everything is contingent on finding either a cure, or vaccination to preven viral attacks, but if that doesn't happent effectively, I see international travel almost disappearing.

    Industries related to travel will be decimated for decades. Te cruise ship industry might disappear except for very high-end, limited travel on small ships, not the floating cities that they were building.

    Probably one of the biggest impacts will be from trying to get insurance. It would be prohibitive to most people, but travelling seniors will simply be unable to get travel insurance at any price.

    Then there are mass transit issues, ride sharing, sporting events, and mass gaherings for concerts, festivals, religious ceremonies, orgies and even weddings.

    Then, there's the sex industry - virtual reality will boom for that, as will even more porn, if that's possible.

    Prostitution will always exist, but there might be fewer participants. Depending on their risk factors, and degree of risk they're willing to take, the older, richer clients might not be as plentiful.

    What about open houses for realtors? Who wants possibly infectious strangers plodding through your house? Same for show homes, display suites, and lottery prize homes.

    Will simple grocery shopping never be the same? Barriers, a return to one-use plastic bags, limited store hours, retstrictions on how many allowed into stores and hand sanitiizers every ten meters?

    Look at the extra time involved in monitoring, limiting people, keepng distance, cleaning and disinfecting anywhere the public uses.

    This won't be an easy ride ever again.
    Within a year people will have either developed a natural immunity, or they will have died. The way this thing is spreading, caused entirely by people moving aroud the globe by airliners for many weeks after it was known, everyone will get exposed to it. Nothing they can do to stop it. All the isolation measures will only slow its rate of spread. Unfortunately they will also decimate the economy. All the UN and Climageddon types will be happy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mikehma View Post
    Within a year people will have either developed a natural immunity, or they will have died. The way this thing is spreading, caused entirely by people moving aroud the globe by airliners for many weeks after it was known, everyone will get exposed to it. Nothing they can do to stop it. All the isolation measures will only slow its rate of spread. Unfortunately they will also decimate the economy. All the UN and Climageddon types will be happy.
    Good point, this virus won't keep killing the people but more of its effect will be on the economy. As Cock Throppled discussed before - tourism, entertainment like music and sports and prostitution will all be badly effected.
    The positive thing from this will be - we will learn so much more about life, develop keen interest in science and studies rather than subjects like Arts, sex and entertainment (even if they are necessary the shouldn't be the mainstay of our lives)

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    1. repatriation flights are in the works right now, morocco first
    2. vaccine will not be approved before round two in the fall
    3. Dr. Henry also ordered that personal service establishments close, including spas, salons, tattoo parlours, and MASSAGE PARLOURS

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    People will adapt to change, we always do. There will be more innovation, new ideas coming out of all this.

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    What I'd like to see is a civil defense brigade established, as an offshoot of the Canadian military. Say about 400 strong? Volunteers sign up for a period of 2 years and they get intensive training in natural disasters, wildfire remediation and pandemic relief. If there's an event during those 2 years, they're the first to mobilize. After 2 years, they revert to normal civilian life but return yearly for 2 weeks of updates and practice. All of the equipment they use during training is stored.

    After 10 years, we'd have 2,000 trained and equipped individuals, who can be all mobilized to handle emergencies. Wildfires, earthquakes, icestorms, pandemics. They wouldn't have to be the best, but enough to release pressure on the front line responders.

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    Civil defense: in Canada they have reserve units (Army and Navy and Air force) across the country; that the *** calls up for times of distress. In the past these reservists have filled in for natural disasters (Winnipeg Flood, Quebec Ice storms etc). An already existing labour force... Besides the Regular Force.

    Also I believe the Regular Force has people on standby for immediate deployment for just such things.... The Regular Force also has an DART (medical deployment team).

    Most reservists have civilian jobs (full or part time); they have to take time away from their jobs to participate for any long term deployment. The states have laws that require the employer to save an reservists job; for when the reservist comes home. Canada has no such law requiring employers to hold a job for an reservist in Canada.

    The Regular Force used to have an program, where you joined up for a year. You got basic training, and were employed at a number of different things (manual labour).

    For everyone: if you have "2 feet and an heartbeat", and are not physically disabled, you can use a shovel....

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    I'm still at somewhat of a loss as to the "urgency" of this pandemic. We had alot of other virulent strains of "new" viruses
    which killed Millions. Wasn't it swine flu that killed 61 million world wide or some other pathogen?
    Before you answer, NO, I'm not a flat earther or conspiracy theorist. I do get that CO-19 is extremely contagious but
    so were so many other viruses. What makes this one so............shit I hate to use the word in this case........."special"?

    Is it because it is so virulant that its got every news station still talking about it to the point I've forgotten who the Canucks
    are for Christ sakes.......and god forbid..........My BC LIONS!!! ? I can't even turn on the boob tube and this
    is all you see. I've had enough for gods sakes already. Then I understand.

    The one good thing I can come to think of as of now is I hope because of this crisis that maybe companies will now see
    that it just might be more worthwhile to have their employees work at home if at all possible. Wow, if that happens
    as it is happening now maybe this will help the price of gas to stay down.
    People won't have to stress the shit outta themselves driving in that moronic traffic, day in and day out.

    There's a silver lining in every cloud and maybe...........just maybe......this one might be that little bit of silver
    lining that the human race can figure out a better way of using their employees energy by staying at home
    and working there. Possibly a win, win for many? We'll see and let's hope so!!

    Won't it be interesting if we see a difference in our atmosphere with huge amounts of airline travel cancelled
    and vehicular traffic almost to a minimum these days. Went out on the road this afternoon and it was like
    being in the twilight zone WOW!!!! Jesus Christ 94 Octane at Chevron. $1.199 WooooHOOOO!!!!
    Time to get the ground pounder out!! BEAUTY!!!!!

    Cheers all and please stay safe out there. TAKE SERIOUSLY THE SOCIETAL DISTANCING.
    As there are so many who are completely..........what is it called? Ignorant, stupid, Don't give a shit,
    Careless, Dumb as a stump, Fuckhead. Or just plain idiotic. Take your pic if this includes you.

    On the other side of things there are people who have compromised immune systems. Like your's truly
    and the elderly. Please keep those things in mind and care for your fellow human being. It's all we really have
    when you consider how much of a global tiny little Island we really live on.

    I need a picture of Don CHerry saying, YOU KNOW WHO YOU PEOPLE ARE!!!






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    Very interesting question. Where do we go from here when things ease up ?I do feel it depends how long this goes on for.
    The longer the more things will change when we come out the other side. Entertainment , travel, our financial situation along with practically everything else is getting hit pretty hard.
    Someone mentioned temperature readings of passengers at airports. Most def that will be the norm . Flights from different parts of the world may never be the same. Very well could restrict those flights significantly or screen/quarantine passengers much more carefully . Tough to say as after 9/11 authorities were very careful and screened just about every passenger carefully. But over time it relaxed. Could see the same thing here.
    I hope all the governments learn from this situation. Stock pile more supplies . ie. PPE, ventilators , and whatever else would be needed in hospitals in any sort of health emergency . Have some sort of contingency plan in place to take over hotels or something so they can expand the number of beds needed in an emergency very quickly . To also fully outfit them with proper equipment . I heard taking over hotels form a health professional is the plan going on right now but can't confirm it as they don't have the equipment to do so.
    I suppose what I'm saying is much better emergency response preparedness. The US had something in place for a crisis just like this but Trump shut it down at one point the last couple years. Can't remember what is was called. Not FEMA.
    Tough to say about cruise ships . The only thing wrong is if someone does get seriously ill. So possibly regular temperature readings of guests while on the ship. Problem is like with COVID19 can be asymptomatic for up to 14 days but fully contagious.
    I guess in anywhere from 6 - 18 months we will see what the new normal is. The really shitty part about it all. When all said and done. We all will probably know somebody who got seriously ill or died.

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    Here's China's approach to quarantining passengers:

    https://www.theglobeandmail.com/opin...uarantine-for/

    Over the next three hours, passengers were called to disembark by periodic announcements calling out groups of seat numbers.
    What followed was a journey through an elaborate sorting system involving standard customs procedures, sit-down interviews with health officials in full protective attire, multiple temperature checks and reviews of contact and travel history as stated on health questionnaires filled out on the plane. The end result was an allocation of large adhesive red, yellow or green dots on passports and health questionnaires according to assessed risk level.
    We were then escorted to one of the special buses designated to take yellow-dot passengers for testing. I was one of two non-Chinese citizens on the bus. We arrived at one of Shanghai’s newly erected testing centres around 3 a.m. One by one, we were called off the bus for testing. In a room featuring a poster of the bifurcated skull of a man getting a deep nasal swab, samples were taken. We were told it would be up to 12 hours before a result was available, so we were taken to a hotel to await results. There was no charge for any of this.
    The next day, at about 9 p.m., our results came back negative. The head of the neighbourhood committee for our Shanghai suburb who had been in touch with us via text messaging through this whole process then arranged designated transportation to take us home. Our home had already been approved for self-quarantine as it is a standalone structure and we were the only two occupants. Quarantining at home was allowed to reduce demand for quarantine spaces in designated, specially prepped hotels and other spaces
    As we began to unpack, whirling red and blue lights filled our windows. Another set of medical technicians had arrived to check our temperatures and explain quarantine rules. We were not to leave our home, whose border included our fenced yard and backyard garden.
    A sign was placed at our gate notifying others of our quarantine and the date of its expiration. We were provided yellow bags clearly labelled “contaminated medical waste” in English and Chinese for our garbage, which would be treated separately. We were also given a container of large white tablets to be used with the water in our bathroom to treat waste entering the sewage system and thermometers to provide temperature readings to be reported before 9 a.m. each morning.
    Medical technicians would check on us twice a day. Food and grocery deliveries could be left at our gate.



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    There is an effective drug for this virus. It is called Hydroxychloroquine. It was approved by the FDA for Malaria and chronic arthritis ten years ago and is prescribed by a doctor. For some reason certain States are banning it and telling doctors and pharmacists they can’t prescribe it, a mystery to me as to why?

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    One bright spot about all this. Haven’t seen anything from the pipeline protesters, was getting tired of seeing those wiener heads on the news. Guess they all found something better to do lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shakerod View Post
    There is an effective drug for this virus. It is called Hydroxychloroquine. It was approved by the FDA for Malaria and chronic arthritis ten years ago and is prescribed by a doctor. For some reason certain States are banning it and telling doctors and pharmacists they can’t prescribe it, a mystery to me as to why?
    Probably because it is not clinically proven for covid-19, individuals require it for existing medical conditions and they do not want to run those patients out, there is just not enough and dosage is critical. People being as stupid as we are, figure if 1mg is good, 5mg must be better.
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