So the Planet is warming huh....this is what makes me skeptical.

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Modern science says that cliamate change is real, as is global warming. And if you still don't believe, how do explain these starving polar bears:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_JhaVNJb3ag

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No, sorry, not true. Dr. Susan Crockford of the University of Victoria is the expert on polar bears. (Look it up.) The population has been increasing for years and is higher now than it has been for decades. Of course, you can't say that these days, and she got fired. Well done, U Vic! What a bunch of a$$holes.
 

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Scientists used to believe the earth was flat. Does that mean we should have doubt now that the earth is in fact round? Science progresses. Modern science says that cliamate change is real, as is global warming. And if you still don't believe, how do explain these starving polar bears:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_JhaVNJb3ag

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That is Environmentalist Propaganda.The polar bear population in the Bearing sea has increased by 22% and the polar bear population in Canada's Arctic has increased by 23% and that is scientific fact backed by research and observations.
As always the sensationalistic fatalist view points are put forth rather than the facts.

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That is Environmentalist Propaganda.The polar bear population in the Bearing sea has increased by 22% and the polar bear population in Canada's Arctic has increased by 23% and that is scientific fact backed by research and observations.
As always the sensationalistic fatalist view points are put forth rather than the facts.

SR
Maybe the bears are experiencing the ice age they were told about in the '70s but no one told them
it was fake news? LOL!!!!





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It is narrated and hosted by Leonard Nimoy so obviously these MUST be some true facts.Back in 1977 the "climatologists" were predicting an Ice Age.


This is not 2020 Conservative opposition in this video this is doom and gloom Democrat/Liberal propaganda of what faces mankind with regards to the "climate" changing.

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Climate science as we know it today was in its infancy in the 70s, and even then majority of scientists were warning about global warming than cooling.

If you get diagnosed with cancer today, do you want to be treated with 1970s medical knowledge and technology?

Climate science relies on collecting and analyzing HUGE amount of data. Do you want to do that on 1970s computers or 2020s computer. The computers from 70s are not capable of running today's climate models.
 

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Climate science as we know it today was in its infancy in the 70s, and even then majority of scientists were warning about global warming than cooling.

If you get diagnosed with cancer today, do you want to be treated with 1970s medical knowledge and technology?
Climate might be changing.

What's in dispute is the cause.
 

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Wildlife that is on the top of the food chain usually get thin before they die....
All bear populations have increased in the last decades....I know I'm going to get Blasted with this comment, but here goes.

With all the clear cutting over the last half century....it has created a perfect habitat for wildlife.
The only thing that does well in old growth forests are birds of prey, and squirrels....the rest of the food chain needs forage, which is almost absent in true old growth, due to the canopy.
In the case of polar bears, and finding them drowned off the pack ice.....it's always happened.
They get old, swim out too far, and die.....people film dead floating, or starving bears, and think it's a new phenomenon.....only thing new about that, is their own iPhone.
Mother Nature is an efficient, and brutal old bitch.
 

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As for Cancer, its not 1970 mediical knowledge, but 1940's/50's knowledge for treatment of cancer. Chemo Therapy started in the early 50's.

The problem is some nutgroup will blame man in general and start to eliminate the race....
 

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As for Cancer, its not 1970 mediical knowledge, but 1940's/50's knowledge for treatment of cancer. Chemo Therapy started in the early 50's.

The problem is some nutgroup will blame man in general and start to eliminate the race....
There has been a lot of advances in cancer treatment in the last 40 years. Even chemo therapy has made advances.

Car was invented over 100 years ago, but very few will say they are driving in 1880s technology.
 

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I can literally smell the trump supporters through my screen

Questioning current opinions on climate change doesn't make a person any kind of political supporter.....the mans an idiot, and it is my own opinion he shouldn't be representing that nation.
The man is not a diplomat, and he doesn't give a shit about the environment, when it comes to furthering his nations prosperity.
Things had to change for sure, when it came to polluting the earth, and we have come a long ways, and can probably do even better....we need to find that point where we can harvest raw materials, with minimal impact.
Maybe that's not possible...but I believe we need to try.
Questioning current research, might hinder that process, but it might swing things the other way.
 

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I can literally smell the trump supporters through my screen
I have no use for trump whatsoever, but I’m not buying into the climate crisis mantra that all the sheep are bleating about just because there is 400 ppm of CO2 in the atmosphere.
 

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I have no use for trump whatsoever, but I’m not buying into the climate crisis mantra that all the sheep are bleating about just because there is 400 ppm of CO2 in the atmosphere.
I refuse to be one of the "sheeple" as well.All you have to do is follow the money.Al Gore owns 4 homes including a 10,000 sq foot mansion that uses 20 times the amount of energy the average American home consumes.It is OK though because he is Al Gore the saviour of the climate.Same goes for David Suzuki with his fanciest mansion overlooking the Vancouver yacht club.The mantra is "do as I say not as I do" because I KNOW what is best for YOU via my Socialist Elitist agenda.

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. . . Al Gore owns 4 homes including a 10,000 sq foot mansion that uses 20 times the amount of energy the average American home consume . . . David Suzuki with his fanciest mansion overlooking the Vancouver yacht club . . . SR

The climate change movement could not do worse than to have Thornberg, Suzuki, and Gore as their spokespeople. None of them are credible. Suzuki's Ph.D. is in genetics not Earth sciences.

Many scientists, engineers, and other informed citizens don't buy into the religion of climate change. But they do care passionately about clean air, clean land, and clean water. As long as the climate change alarmists use emotion rather than information as their weapon of choice they will fail to win over a huge part of the population.
 

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The climate change movement could not do worse than to have Thornberg, Suzuki, and Gore as their spokespeople. None of them are credible. Suzuki's Ph.D. is in genetics not Earth sciences.

Many scientists, engineers, and other informed citizens don't buy into the religion of climate change. But they do care passionately about clean air, clean land, and clean water. As long as the climate change alarmists use emotion rather than information as their weapon of choice they will fail to win over a huge part of the population.
You make a good salient point.Sadly the whole "climate change" movement is based on the the idea of Marxist Socialism with the goal per Antifa/Extinction Revolution doctrine of the death of Western Society and the Democracy of what it is based upon.The end goal is a governance structure lead by Globalist Elites who dictate to the masses what is "best for them"....take a look at the USSR for just shy of a century and see how well that worked out.


Canada and the USA have clean air and water etc.In fact Canada has control of the largest lakes in the world them being the "the great lakes" and they are not polluted.

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You make a good salient point.Sadly the whole "climate change" movement is based on the the idea of Marxist Socialism with the goal per Antifa/Extinction Revolution doctrine of the death of Western Society and the Democracy of what it is based upon.The end goal is a governance structure lead by Globalist Elites who dictate to the masses what is "best for them"....take a look at the USSR for just shy of a century and see how well that worked out.


Canada and the USA have clean air and water etc.In fact Canada has control of the largest lakes in the world them being the "the great lakes" and they are not polluted.

SR
What is Extinction Revolution?
 

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The climate change movement could not do worse than to have Thornberg, Suzuki, and Gore as their spokespeople. None of them are credible. Suzuki's Ph.D. is in genetics not Earth sciences.

Many scientists, engineers, and other informed citizens don't buy into the religion of climate change. But they do care passionately about clean air, clean land, and clean water. As long as the climate change alarmists use emotion rather than information as their weapon of choice they will fail to win over a huge part of the population.
Suzuki, Thunberg, and other climate change activists are saying listen to the science. They are not saying listen to their own research.

If we can't be passionate about averting the climate crisis, then what can we be passionate about?

If you think the way to connect with huge portion of the population is through only facts and not emotions, the advertising industry needs you. I personally believe you need both facts, and connection on emotional level to effect change, but I am not a marketer, so what do I know.
 
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