More People Should Listen to Dr McKitrick

masterblaster

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https://youtu.be/IW9dJ1ulSxo

He makes a lot more sense than an immature teenage mouthpiece like Greta thunberg and those whose agenda she promotes. People need to wake up and question what they’re being told about the so called climate crisis.
 

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Oh yah ...the guy who got debunked for publishing a paper without peer reviews trying to contradict a scientific paper .

He seems to skip over a lot of facts but interesting point of view ...he's entertaining...I'll give him that .

In term of economics which is his field of study he must see the crash of 29 and the great depression of the 30s as a bleep of no significance in the 20th century .

Funny how everyone find their truth online . It's when you dig that things get funnier .

Don't get me wrong each side push their views for funding . It's the who, what , where , when, why and how that interest me with those guys .
 

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Funny you should mention the stock market crash of ‘29. It was caused by the same type of public hysteria that is starting to evolve around the alleged climate crisis.
 

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No hysteria but questioning from informed people before 29...

Overly stocked manufacturing sector which got caught their pants down with a slight slowdown of the economy in the summer and fall of 29 after an increase with the interest rates in August of the same year...and agricultural hiccups. More structural problem than anything else
 

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No hysteria but questioning from informed people before 29...

Overly stocked manufacturing sector which got caught their pants down with a slight slowdown of the economy in the summer and fall of 29 after an increase with the interest rates in August of the same year...and agricultural hiccups. More structural problem than anything else
No hysteria? You over simplify the situation. I think you should take a closer look at what actually happened. People selling off stocks in a frenzy. People lining up at banks to get their money out causing a run on the bank. If that’s not hysteria I don’t know what is.
 

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That is the aftermath not the cause of the crash . Just like the crash of 87 when everybody was panicking to cover their accounts ...the central banks slashed their interest rates worldwide to allow people to recover .
The central banks had learned the lesson from 1929 .

We are getting horribly off subject here
 

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Overly stocked manufacturing sector which got caught their pants down with a slight slowdown of the economy in the summer and fall of 29 after an increase with the interest rates in August of the same year...and agricultural hiccups. More structural problem than anything else
So carvesg, what did you do in '29?.... Were you a banker, stock broker or manufacturing guy?, and how much did it cost you back then
to spend an hour with a SP?
And gee, it must be awful embarrassing to get caught with the pants down, particular if you're wearing stinky, soiled shorts.
 

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409 Canadian scientists, many of whom are climatologists, say there's a problem. An economist, who has zero education or research in climate beyond stats, by his own admission, says there isn't. His views are political, not scientific. You can find your sources everywhere. You can find a crackpot who will tell you the moon is made of green cheese. You cannot present this guy as a climate expert. He isn't.

Asking him for information about climate change is like asking a PhD in literature to read a book and diagnose your health issues. He's not remotely qualified. Healthy debate is worthwhile. Advocating nonsense has its limits. This is just inside that boundary. Keep it civil and it will be allowed to continue.
 

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409 Canadian scientists, many of whom are climatologists, say there's a problem. An economist, who has zero education or research in climate beyond stats, by his own admission, says there isn't. His views are political, not scientific. You can find your sources everywhere. You can find a crackpot who will tell you the moon is made of green cheese. You cannot present this guy as a climate expert. He isn't.

Asking him for information about climate change is like asking a PhD in literature to read a book and diagnose your health issues. He's not remotely qualified. Healthy debate is worthwhile. Advocating nonsense has its limits. This is just inside that boundary. Keep it civil and it will be allowed to continue.
He’s an expert in statistics and analysis thereof. Many of those who claim the the big climate change is nigh upon us and woe betide, use those same statistics to their own end and not always in the most truthful manner.
 

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He’s an expert in statistics and analysis thereof. Many of those who claim the the big climate change is nigh upon us and woe betide, use those same statistics to their own end and not always in the most truthful manner.
He's a BA/MA/PhD in economics. There's not a "science" class in his is course load. Because you are good at math/stats doesn't mean you know a thing about climate, meteorology or the other sciences involved in climate study. He can crunch the numbers, and tell you the trend without context, no question. His interpretation of those numbers is HIGHLY influenced by his unabashed and blatant right-wing/political agenda, being a fellow at the Fraser Institute shows exactly where his philosophical leanings lay. He's one of the smartest climate change deniers out there, but that doesn't make him a credible source for information about the environment. I will listen to what he has to say, as I do anyone else, but I will be listening more to the person who has made their life's work the study of the climate, who does hands-on research and interprets their own data. To say he's spouting his truth is accurate. To call his truth "The" truth is a point of view, not a fact.

Based on what I have learned and read from all sides, there's a problem, and it's going to get a lot worse unless we do something about it. Is it imminent death to the human race, nope. Is it something we need to pay attention to? We would be stupid not to. There's no other planet waiting if he fuck this one up. I don't scream from the rooftops, or rant and rave like some, but I remember being able to have a hockey rink in my backyard all winter. Can't do that now for more than a couple of weeks during the winter in Southern Ontario now, or even Alberta.
 

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He's a BA/MA/PhD in economics. There's not a "science" class in his is course load. Because you are good at math/stats doesn't mean you know a thing about climate, meteorology or the other sciences involved in climate study. He can crunch the numbers, and tell you the trend without context, no question. His interpretation of those numbers is HIGHLY influenced by his unabashed and blatant right-wing/political agenda, being a fellow at the Fraser Institute shows exactly where his philosophical leanings lay. He's one of the smartest climate change deniers out there, but that doesn't make him a credible source for information about the environment. I will listen to what he has to say, as I do anyone else, but I will be the person who has made their life's work the study of the climate, who does hands-on research and interprets their own data. To say he's spouting his truth is accurate. To call his truth "The" truth is a point of view, not a fact.

Based on what I have learned and read from all sides, there's a problem, and it's going to get a lot worse unless we do something about it. Is it imminent death to the human race, nope. Is it something we need to pay attention to? We would be stupid not to. There's no other planet waiting if he fuck this one up. I don't scream from the rooftops, or rant and rave like some, but I remember being able to have a hockey rink in my backyard all winter. Can't do that now for more than a couple of weeks during the winter in Southern Ontario now, or even Alberta.
Everybody has their opinions on it rightly or wrongly. I take exception with radicals coming to Canada trying to disrupt this country with their protested sponsored by those whose agenda is to the detriment of the economy and people who live here.
 

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Everybody has their opinions on it rightly or wrongly. I take exception with radicals coming to Canada trying to disrupt this country with their protested sponsored by those whose agenda is to the detriment of the economy and people who live here.
Couldn't agree more. Radicals - on both sides, have made this a different country than the one I grew up in.
 

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https://youtu.be/IW9dJ1ulSxo

He makes a lot more sense than an immature teenage mouthpiece like Greta thunberg and those whose agenda she promotes. People need to wake up and question what they’re being told about the so called climate crisis.
Indeed! There are two more distinguished Canadians you should listen to. You can do a search on YouTube for anything by Dr. Tim Ball (retired university professor) or Dr. Patrick Moore (founder of Greenpeace who has a PhD in Ecology from UBC). They both talk science, not politics, and back it up with loads of hard scientific data. It takes time, some of these lectures run for over an hour but they are a real eye-opener. Yes, the climate is changing, it always has and always will. Does man-made CO2 change the climate? Absolutely not. Pure crap. It's plant food actually and the planet needs more of it. We've been had.
 

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409 Canadian scientists, many of whom are climatologists, say there's a problem. An economist, who has zero education or research in climate beyond stats, by his own admission, says there isn't. His views are political, not scientific. You can find your sources everywhere. You can find a crackpot who will tell you the moon is made of green cheese. You cannot present this guy as a climate expert. He isn't.

Asking him for information about climate change is like asking a PhD in literature to read a book and diagnose your health issues. He's not remotely qualified. Healthy debate is worthwhile. Advocating nonsense has its limits. This is just inside that boundary. Keep it civil and it will be allowed to continue.
Good god I needed a comment like this ^^^^
Thank you!!!
 

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It is often said that all the climate change advocates have a hidden agenda. That they are paid by Soros, the UN or whoever. Same goes for pipeline protesters, that they are all paid by some shadowy conspiracy.

But nobody says anything about oil companies supporting lobby groups. Or oil companies being alllowed to walk away from abandoned wells. The cleanup in AB is estimated to be in the hundreds of billions.
 

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It is often said that all the climate change advocates have a hidden agenda. That they are paid by Soros, the UN or whoever. Same goes for pipeline protesters, that they are all paid by some shadowy conspiracy.

But nobody says anything about oil companies supporting lobby groups. Or oil companies being alllowed to walk away from abandoned wells. The cleanup in AB is estimated to be in the hundreds of billions.
Hundreds of Billions? Would be interested to know where you got that information sounds a tad high to me. But what do I know? Only worked in the oil and gas industry in Alberta for the past 20 some years. How about yourself?
 

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Hundreds of Billions? Would be interested to know where you got that information sounds a tad high to me. But what do I know? Only worked in the oil and gas industry in Alberta for the past 20 some years. How about yourself?

The cost of cleaning up after Alberta's oil and gas industry was estimated by the AER (Alberta Energy Regulator) to be as high as $260 billion and take as long as 2800 years.
 

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With all the prior warmings of the that scientist have agreed on how can we think we can stop this one? Possible slow it down, but if it is part of a cycle...
Maybe the scientist can stop plate tectonics so that the next "big one" one hit either.
Just stirring the pot...
 
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