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CaptainSwing

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Hi. Long time lurker, first time poster. I regrettably created this account to warn others of Ava on listcrawler. Her and her accomplice robbed me. (Ava took my money and excused herself to freshen up, then her accomplice showed up from nowhere and demanded I leave. It was an unpleasant situation to say the least). Just be careful with this one. Wouldn’t want anyone to wind up in the same situation. This probably marks the end of my time in this hobby. Still shaken up over it.

For reference this is her ad: https://escortalligator.com.listcrawler.eu/post/escorts/canada/manitoba/winnipeg/44794661/
 

Nerd69

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Hi. Long time lurker, first time poster. I regrettably created this account to warn others of Ava on listcrawler. Her and her accomplice robbed me. (Ava took my money and excused herself to freshen up, then her accomplice showed up from nowhere and demanded I leave. It was an unpleasant situation to say the least). Just be careful with this one. Wouldn’t want anyone to wind up in the same situation. This probably marks the end of my time in this hobby. Still shaken up over it.

For reference this is her ad: https://escortalligator.com.listcrawler.eu/post/escorts/canada/manitoba/winnipeg/44794661/
Unfortunately its kinda tough to ask the authorities for help. When I first started trying this hobby I made a few mistakes like that. That's why you will hear the ladies and the pooners say, "always see a girl who has been well reviewed and preferably local." If you want to try again I'd suggest you take that advice. The girl clearly looks like a full-blown addict and that puts you at risk for more than just robbery. Those people will beat you down. Spend just a little more for a quality provider who will show you where it's at. There are lots.
 

SciFi64

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Follow this forum and you will soon know what to look for. I had seen her ad before and had sketchy written all over it. I prefer the travelling girls who advertise here on PERB. They are usually 100% legit. There are also a couple of locals who advertise on here too. I have not seen them but would choose them before any random one on LL or EA.

Sorry this happened to you. Fucking scum.
 

KombuchaBoy

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Same thing happened to me with that same girl. I was ready to fight that dude but he flashed his knife around and my jacket was new so I took the L. Just like nerd69 said, authorities won't help you and it could backfire too. I was gonna post bout this too but seemed like an amateur move on my part until I found this site. So stay safe bros ✌✌
 

James4

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I threw him down the stairs when they tried this on me lol. Still lost the 100$ tho. Figured he had a knife so i played it cool till we were at the top of the stairs.
 

James4

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Just so everyone knows, she stopped posting under the name ava. And she either dyed her hair or started wearing a red wig. She now posts about 50$-80$ Bj or bbbj. Someone link the new ad
 

cflnhl

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cflnhl

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Whoa.Hold up. Yandex can do facial recognition?! How accurate is it?
Not sure what you mean by accurate. I'm still coming to terms with the fact it does it at all.

For example, my post today in the fake ads forum "Teresa". Her ad is all face shots. The first couple of reverse image searches came up "The same picture was not found".

https://yandex.com/images/search?rpt=imageview&img_url=https%3A%2F%2Fi.leolist.cc%2F649631%2F5862347%2Fmain%2Fvazzzle.fanss_5___B84El0ei-bY___.jpg&cbir_id=2473993%2F7xM6qp6fwoA2ruUKtx0n_Q

However, the "Similar Images" section gives 23 images of the same woman! None of those pics are in the ad! Searching on these pics then leads to some of the pics in the ad!

Same holds true for "China" also in Fake Ads. Yandex identified a blonde woman on one search (China is dark-haired in Winnipeg ad) as a similar image. At first I was dismissive. But closer inspection shows the same face, same body build, same lingerie, same shoes ! And of course, black roots. I put it down to either facial recognition or Yandex has a very very discerning eye for women's lingerie.
 

big k

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Guys

You need to start doing your homework before you go visit these un safe, sketchy girls. You're putting yourself
in terrible, possibly deadly situations.
I've been in this hobby for a long time and these are my personal guidelines which are similar to others stated
over the years:
Before you choose a SP

- Search her name and phone number here using search box
- Google search ALL her images and phone numbers
- Stick to girls that have been around for a while and have ads that are coherent and not full of spelling errors
- Avoid the $50/80 low ball girls
- Avoid Party friendly girls
- Never have someone to your house - if you have to use an outcall get a hotel room
- This is a personal preference that may offend some but I will NEVER go to anyone in the north end
- If you drive up to an address and it looks like a shithole drive away.
- We have some real gems in Wpg plus some great visiting girls that visit regularly.
They may cost a little more but they are worth saving up your money to see.
- Quality over quantity - Not sure how often you visit SP's but maybe cut back and see the
higher quality more expensive ones.

This robbery issue is going to increase as I know a lot of hobbyists have either cut back or
stopped visiting SP's totally during Covid crisis. Money is going to be tight for a lot of Sp's
and perhaps the BF or pimps.

I've never heard of so many robberies by SP's as this last year


Be careful out there - it is a challenging time.
 

Jethro Bodine

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Guys

You need to start doing your homework before you go visit these un safe, sketchy girls. You're putting yourself
in terrible, possibly deadly situations.
I've been in this hobby for a long time and these are my personal guidelines which are similar to others stated
over the years:
Before you choose a SP

- Search her name and phone number here using search box
- Google search ALL her images and phone numbers
- Stick to girls that have been around for a while and have ads that are coherent and not full of spelling errors
- Avoid the $50/80 low ball girls
- Avoid Party friendly girls
- Never have someone to your house - if you have to use an outcall get a hotel room
- This is a personal preference that may offend some but I will NEVER go to anyone in the north end
- If you drive up to an address and it looks like a shithole drive away.
- We have some real gems in Wpg plus some great visiting girls that visit regularly.
They may cost a little more but they are worth saving up your money to see.
- Quality over quantity - Not sure how often you visit SP's but maybe cut back and see the
higher quality more expensive ones.

This robbery issue is going to increase as I know a lot of hobbyists have either cut back or
stopped visiting SP's totally during Covid crisis. Money is going to be tight for a lot of Sp's
and perhaps the BF or pimps.

I've never heard of so many robberies by SP's as this last year


Be careful out there - it is a challenging time.
Good advice Big K!
That said, and maybe it's the grumpy old man in me coming out but I am sick and tired of guys coming on here and whining when they get robbed, ripped off, bait and swtiched, etc by some low life, hood rat, skank on Leo List.
There have been hundreds of posts over the years advising guys on the do's and don't of this hobby. The warning signs, as you have so eloquently posted above, AGAIN!
If guys are so stupid as to not do their research/homework, especially with the number of very well reviewed, reputable ladies, both local and touring, to choose from then they get what they deserve.
Now back to entertaining myself during this time of self isolation by watching my cat bath himself. ;)

Cheers
J
 

Sixpak

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Whoa.Hold up. Yandex can do facial recognition?! How accurate is it?
Yandex is by far the best reverse image search engine, with a scary-powerful ability to recognize faces, landscapes, and objects. Careful as it is a Russian site. Google image search is not the best.
There is a manual online how to use it.
 

James4

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Good advice Big K!
That said, and maybe it's the grumpy old man in me coming out but I am sick and tired of guys coming on here and whining when they get robbed, ripped off, bait and swtiched, etc by some low life, hood rat, skank on Leo List.
There have been hundreds of posts over the years advising guys on the do's and don't of this hobby. The warning signs, as you have so eloquently posted above, AGAIN!
If guys are so stupid as to not do their research/homework, especially with the number of very well reviewed, reputable ladies, both local and touring, to choose from then they get what they deserve.
Now back to entertaining myself during this time of self isolation by watching my cat bath himself. ;)

Cheers
J
Personally im not whining, im warning others so the same doesn't happen to them and the whole purpose of the site is to review escorts. So why wouldn't we review them on here? Dummy up lol.
 

Jethro Bodine

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Personally im not whining, im warning others so the same doesn't happen to them and the whole purpose of the site is to review escorts. So why wouldn't we review them on here? Dummy up lol.
I didn't say YOU were whining. I was speaking in general terms regarding the ongoing issue with guys posting threads about getting ripped off when they choose to see ladies with no solid reputation/reviews or their advertisement contains all the usual warning signs.
While these threads may serve to warn others, they would not be necessary if guys simply followed the rules.
There have been numerous threads posted outlining the do's and don'ts of this hobby and how to prevent getting ripped off or robbed.
Guys being guys, continually looking for the "Next one" or that undiscovered gem, go outside those bounds and get in trouble.
Kind of like all those people every year who disregard warnings and ski and snowmobile in the back country of BC or Alberta and then the Canadian Forces has to rescue them.
All I can say is that I've been doing this for a lot of years. In the early years before the internet and review boards I did have a couple of unsatisfactory sessions. Since review boards came along going back to Canbest and by sticking to the rules, I have never been ripped off, robbed.
Or had to throw anyone down a flight of stairs. ;)

Cheers
J
 

Manfromwpg

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Just go to trusted providers. No issues.

Bridgeland/osbourne group has been great too me.
Lori has been great.
Cleo has been great.
To name a few.
 
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