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Canadian population 100 Million?

80watts

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http://www.immigration.ca/can-canadas-population-reach-100m-2100
http://www.cbc.ca/radio/thesundayedition/the-sunday-edition-october-14-2018-1.4858401/canada-s-population-needs-to-be-100-million-by-2100-1.4860172

How will 100 million people in Canada help our economy? In one reference there is a reference to the US population in the 1920's. That was a labour intensive economy (today we have robots so that is not on the same playing field). Seems someone tends to think that having over 100 million people will help the economy using the US as a reference. Today we have 4-5 % unemployment (not included are retirees). Today in Cities we do not have the infrastructure to support the current population (just look at the traffic jams on the roads and commuter trains). How will it be if the population doubled, tripled?

When I was growing up in the 70s, the school teachers were saying stuff about how fast the world's population was growing, by the 1990s parents were having less than 2 children (at least the people I know), mostly because of quality of life for the 2 children they had and (mostly the women didn't feel like going through labour again). Religious people, welfare people, Native Aboriginals and politicians are the only sets of the population that are having more than 2 children. I think they think future voters or something like that or they are fucking without birth control....

China has a limit of 1 child (to limit their population growth). China and India have about 1 billion people. If you have ever been to those Countries, due to the mass of people, most of the people are poor. There are alot of poor people in Canada too. These people are on welfare or have min wage jobs, barely making ends meet at the end of the month. Food banks are active across the country. People live on the streets and immigrate to Vancouver and Victoria where its warmest in winter.

So with most people in the country burning fossil fuel to keep their house warm in the winter months, how will tripling households help climate change (prevent you from burning carbon to produce heat for your home in winter)?

My Grandparents had 8 to 12 siblings, my parents 4 to 5 siblings, my generation has 2-3.

Right now we are taking in over 200,000 immigrants a year, Canada can not afford to support most of these people on welfare, most will find min wage jobs, but will they get better jobs?

How will the education system work? Canada barely puts out young people from high school that can spell without a spellchecker (computer). Will universities be tripled in size to accommodate the increase in people, where will they expand to? Will universities have to lower their standards to support more people attending?

If we don't have the infrastructure now to support our population, how will it be if it is tripled to 100 million? Canada economy is mostly resource base and we take that and give it very cheaply to the rest of the world.

The only thing I see with 100 million people is that the system will create more welfare people (dependent on the government), creating a voting block for social parties.
 

licks2nite

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Growing an economy is what keeps the ponzi, fiat, fractional reserve banking financial system from collapsing. If all the loans got paid off and nobody to borrow, there wouldn't be any money left in circulation. That said, 200,000 per year would likely keep the financial system in tact. Environmentalists have to start pushing for a sound money system that can survive without growth.
 

johnnydepth

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It's fairly simple. Canada is too large of a country in terms of its cities and infrastructure. We need a lot more people or need to start looking at downsizing our cities. Winnipeg is a great example. For the land mass it takes up it should easily have a population of 4 million without seeming crowded. Regina and Saskatoon are other great examples. So do we need 100 million? Absolutely if we want to be able to support what we have built.
 

JimDandy

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It's fairly simple. Canada is too large of a country in terms of its cities and infrastructure. We need a lot more people or need to start looking at downsizing our cities.
I had not really thought about it, but you are likely correct. This is why are infrastructure is starting to crumble. The Liberals have promised to start some major infrastructure projects, but the Conservatives had promised if they became the ruling party to shut at least some of these projects down. More people, meaning more tax payers, would help to finance these infrastructure projects.

JD
 

westwoody

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Note the immigration dot ca website linked above is not a Government of Canada website.
It is run by an immigration lawyer/consultant. He makes money by helping immigrants so his oipinions may be biased.
 

overdone

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More people, meaning more tax payers, would help to finance these infrastructure projects.

JD
if that was the case, we should have everything built/paid for already

or have you never listened to some old guy

you know the one's who "built this country, paid their taxes"

if they did, why do we need to keep building, have debt? lol

it doesn't matter how many more you add, you just create more demand for infrastructure

if we can't afford it now, which we can't, adding more people isn't going to make it more affordable

it's called diminishing returns

something no one wants to talk about

to determine what the sweet spot is, for people
 

nwtl

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More people, meaning more tax payers, would help to finance these infrastructure projects.

JD
That's assuming current infrastructure has excess capacity to support more people, otherwise we'll need even more money to build even more, vicious circle.
Then there's assuming those people will in fact be gainful tax payers or importers of new wealth to Canada, which means less refugees, and more pragmatic immigration.
 

rlock

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Canada has a lot of land, but not much of it is really arable. I can imagine 50 million, but 100M ? That would be a real stretch. In any case, if the world is so overpopulated by then that we absorb that much migration, then the whole world is fucked (even more than now) and won't survive for long.
 

storm rider

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Canada has a lot of land, but not much of it is really arable. I can imagine 50 million, but 100M ? That would be a real stretch. In any case, if the world is so overpopulated by then that we absorb that much migration, then the whole world is fucked (even more than now) and won't survive for long.
Mass Immigration will FUCK Canada just as it has FUCKED Britain and the entirety of Europe.When you have someone like George Soros both cheering for it and himself pouring money into it....well you just KNOW it is bad.

My parents immigrated to Canada from Britain back in 1967 or so.I am the only member of my family born in Canada and I hold dual citizenship.I have also lived in Britain for 9 months and worked there and I have seen the Societal change all thanks to the usual leftist buzzwords like "multi-culturalism" "Inclusiveness" and so on and so forth.Hell my grandmother lived through WW1 and WW2 in Britain and was so conditioned to "rationing" that she snuck packets of sugar and those lil tubs of jam from Husky truck stops...she could not help it.If she were alive now....and seeing how bad Britain has sunk she would be OUTRAGED.

Canada does not need 100 MILLION as a population...the fucking Lieberals want that as a fucking tax base so they can spend MORE.

SR
 

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In a FIAT currency system, growth and the velocity of money (more times a dollar can move from one party to another) is paramount

Ironically, for every dollar the government creates and gives via welfare, it creates $1.10 in revenue (because welfare recipients don’t save the $, they spend it in the local economy immediately, and thus repaid in income and sales taxes immediately)

Give me 1 dollar and it’s likely going in my RRSP, where the government would be paying ME a tax refund

Welfare/Government nanny state is good for business and keeps the wheels turning. More people paying into the system keeps the government in business
 
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