Carman Fox

Thoughts on Lowered speed limits

overdone

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Maybe stay current, the policy has already been successfully implemented in major European cities, New York and areas of Seattle. In Vancouver, the idea is to first implement the speed changes to areas and neighbourhoods which experience high frequency commuter cut through traffic which brings high volumes of car traffic on to low volume designed streets. Most intersections in residential neighborhoods remain unchanged from their original design except that Vancouver abandoned uncontrolled intersections in the 1990s. The concrete sidewalk outside my house is stamped 1906, do you think in 1906 hundreds of cars commuting to the suburbs were cutting off of the congested arterials onto side streets - this wasn't even happening in the 1990s.

60% of traffic related fatalities are pedestrians and cyclists in Vancouver. This is a problem.

the study was from the UK, it hasn't made a difference there, they have lowered the speed limits, it didn't make a difference

just like in Edm, they just released stats from 2006 to today

"claim" significant reductions, bullshit

they're own stats over those years, yes down now, trending down last couple yrs

but if you look at them, they fluctuate

and aren't "significant"

or do you think the difference between 25 and 19 is "significant"

the biggest difference cities here have made, dedicated left turn signals

because most collisions/accidents aren't from SPEED in a city, they are from rear ends, left turns

SPEED ISN'T THE PROBLEM

50 kmh is slow enough

have you tried to drive 30? à

sure that is fast, if you are driving a tractor

it's nothing more than ANAL RETENTIVE EMOTIONAL BULLSHIT FROM A MINORITY OF CONTROL FREAKS

VISION ZERO, says it all, it ain't going to happen

and it wouldn't have in 1900 or in 2060
 

UhOh

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Its a money grab, an extra tax on the populace. Like the distracted driving laws going after someone drinking from a water bottle or ticketing drivers stopped at intersections for glancing at their phone, hard to cause a crash when you're stopped.
If they were serious about safety they wouldn't be staked out at intersection going after stopped cars. Go after the ones texting while actually on the move.
 

take8easy

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If there was a red light district in Vancouver, I would like to, but won't set the speed limit to 69.

Thought I should just throw that in the mix.

I think 69 should be mandatory. Everyone must be forced to observe 69.

Did you know that Aaaah + Yumm = 69 ?

Did you know that 69 - 1 = Solo

Did you know that 69 + one fart = No more 69

Drive safe.

T8E
 

storm rider

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Its a money grab, an extra tax on the populace. Like the distracted driving laws going after someone drinking from a water bottle or ticketing drivers stopped at intersections for glancing at their phone, hard to cause a crash when you're stopped.
If they were serious about safety they wouldn't be staked out at intersection going after stopped cars. Go after the ones texting while actually on the move.
The money grab gets worse from what I just read on MSN.The BC government is in the process of testing new traffic cameras that are emplaced and not mobile....just the same as red light/speed on green cameras here in Calgary and AKA Gatso's in Britain.
Speed pat the camera and you get a fine in the mail.....all brought to you by the lovely Socialist NDP Government which just loves to TAX and SPEND more.....whilst also enjoying self enrichment and cronyism.

Welcome to the cash grab in the name of "safety".....welcome to what we have in Calgary.....at least the VPD does not have a ticket quota like Calgary does.

SR
 

Amerix

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The money grab gets worse from what I just read on MSN.The BC government is in the process of testing new traffic cameras that are emplaced and not mobile....just the same as red light/speed on green cameras here in Calgary and AKA Gatso's in Britain.
Speed pat the camera and you get a fine in the mail.....all brought to you by the lovely Socialist NDP Government which just loves to TAX and SPEND more.....whilst also enjoying self enrichment and cronyism.

Welcome to the cash grab in the name of "safety".....welcome to what we have in Calgary.....at least the VPD does not have a ticket quota like Calgary does.

SR
Man you'd think 16 years out of power would have taught them a lesson. But I guess not.
 

felixthecat

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Man you'd think 16 years out of power would have taught them a lesson. But I guess not.
Lots of things changed in 16 years. If the old radar system sucked, it does not mean the new system is without merits.

The old radar was hated for being inaccurate and costly (i.e. not for being a cash grab - it failed to generate a profit).

Technology went way ahead, so accuracy presumably is much better. Costs are negligible: fully automated process, currently only using preexisting BC cameras. They only enabled what was already there. I've seen an automated ticket for a red light violation from a few years ago, there was already a vehicle speed indicated on the ticket (but no fine). All they did was to enable automated speeding tickets generation for technology that existed for years. Makes perfect sense to me.

Also ICBC premiums went up a lot in those 16 years. I very much prefer ICBC raise revenue from automated speeding tickets than from the premiums that everybody have to pay regardless of their driving skills and habits.
 

CanineCowboy

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the study was from the UK, it hasn't made a difference there, they have lowered the speed limits, it didn't make a difference

just like in Edm, they just released stats from 2006 to today

"claim" significant reductions, bullshit

they're own stats over those years, yes down now, trending down last couple yrs

but if you look at them, they fluctuate

and aren't "significant"

or do you think the difference between 25 and 19 is "significant"

the biggest difference cities here have made, dedicated left turn signals

because most collisions/accidents aren't from SPEED in a city, they are from rear ends, left turns

SPEED ISN'T THE PROBLEM

50 kmh is slow enough

have you tried to drive 30? à

sure that is fast, if you are driving a tractor

it's nothing more than ANAL RETENTIVE EMOTIONAL BULLSHIT FROM A MINORITY OF CONTROL FREAKS

VISION ZERO, says it all, it ain't going to happen

and it wouldn't have in 1900 or in 2060
Actually 30km/hr is already the speed limit on any non arterial road adjacent to every park and school. If you are from Vancouver you would also know it has been the speed limit for several years along Hastings for a number of blocks on either side of Main Street and the speed limit in every laneway and on every single bike route.

It isn't about driver safety, it is about the safety of pedestrians and cyclists.

Maybe learn about the issue before you start editorialising.
 

Amerix

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There is no photo radar in BC? How does the police detect speeding?
They setup speed traps on empty highways on sunny Saturday mornings and give out a pile of tickets to people who are driving perfectly safely.

Then they check their little box saying "quota complete" and go on to do other things.
 

storm rider

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They setup speed traps on empty highways on sunny Saturday mornings and give out a pile of tickets to people who are driving perfectly safely.

Then they check their little box saying "quota complete" and go on to do other things.
From my knowledge the RCMP over the GVRD are not responsible for enforcing speeding tickets from having lived there.The VPD do not have a "ticket quota" as an administritive decision which is basically another form of taxation.Calgary DOES have ths and if members of the CPS Traffic Unit do not adhere to it they get reprimanded.

SR
 
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