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    Let this be a lesson to all of us - be careful who you hitch your wagon to ...


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    You can have all the polls you want..... the outcome is on election day.
    When you are dead, you do not know that you are dead.
    It is the same way when you are stupid.

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    Ndp and green minority with a side tasting of Liberals voting there own conscious. Its looking great.. for a minority gov.... can't wait..... the last time they had a minority, shit got done.... and that can go both ways....

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    Minority governments can be good for getting things done if the numbers pan out into to something stable. When there was a minority under Harper, shit just got crazy, because nobody had the numbers to go over the top without the toxic BQ being involved.

    Scheer losing is important to me. I don't care who he loses to, as long as it's not going to be another so-called "majority" that sticks us with Harperism for 4 years or more. The real Conservative leader is Doug Ford anyway; either that or Kenney. Scheer is such a milquetoast; his nice guy act exists to whitewash what his party will really do, and who they really take their orders from.

    That being said, I think the Liberals getting a minority government would be better than a "majority" they wouldn't deserve. Trudeau needs a slap in the face for his conduct, and I think the voters are in the mood to give him one. For the Liberal party, Trudeau has gone from an asset to a liability, and I bet if that "alternative leader" scenario was asked in polls, we'd see the public is primarily mad at him. So if he only got a minority, the party might still dump him for someone with more balls and less baggage. I can live with that. (As long as it's not Freeland - ugh.)

    Whatever happens, First Past The Post will still suck and give us a distorted result. (You can thank Trudeau for that too - it was supposed to be GONE!)

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    Quote Originally Posted by rlock View Post
    Whatever happens, First Past The Post will still suck and give us a distorted result. (You can thank Trudeau for that too - it was supposed to be GONE!)
    lol, just can't get it can you

    NO MEANS NO

    how many times do you need to be told no?

    PEI, 2X, BC, what now 3X?

    no one is clamoring for this, except the Kool-aid gang, extremists who can't gain power

    zealots who keep blaming Harper 4yrs out, would be pathetic if it wasn't so sad

    who you going to blame 4yrs from now? lol

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    The only thing FPTP has for it is supporters who are better at lying - or those dumb enough to believe the lies.

    As for Harper, no I'm never going to not hate that piece of shit. He's as close to Stalin as Canada ever had. 100 fucking years from now, I'd still piss on him, his legacy, and all his supporters.

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    Harper was the best Prime Minister of the last 50years. Trugrope is the worst piece of shit of this century.
    The OZ

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    Quote Originally Posted by overdone View Post
    lol, just can't get it can you

    NO MEANS NO

    how many times do you need to be told no?

    PEI, 2X, BC, what now 3X?

    no one is clamoring for this, except the Kool-aid gang, extremists who can't gain power

    zealots who keep blaming Harper 4yrs out, would be pathetic if it wasn't so sad

    who you going to blame 4yrs from now? lol
    I totally agree with this.The people that want the crapulence of Proportional Representation are the filthy power hungry bastards that cant get a decent number of people elected.They are the ones that want Participation Trophy Democracy.Oh the Greens had say 14% of the popular vote but in EVERY riding only a single candidate gets enough votes to actually WIN the seat......how the fuck do you arbitrarily decide if it happened and the Greens got 14% of the seats in Parliament where they will represent?

    How do you explain to say a riding in Saskatchewan that elected a Conservative MP but due to participation trophy politics they get a Green MP as a kick in the teeth consolation.

    In Europe they have Proportional Representation and that is because of the Socialist sentiment in Europe......and Europe and especially Britain is going down the toilet these days.

    As for rlock saying that Harper is the Canadian equivilent to Stalin.....wow dude take another tab of ACID is all I can say.You are wacked out of your mind for that comparison.Joseph Stalin was directly and indirectly responsible for the deaths of between 50 MILLION and up to 120 MILLION people when he was in charge of his murderous Communist Dictatorship....which was established under the guise of Socialism.

    I can only guess that rlock is a filthy Socialist who cant afford to buy a home in Vancouver and is the type that would much enjoy a crash in housing prices so he could get on the property ladder at the expence and suffering of everybody else.

    SR

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    Quote Originally Posted by storm rider View Post
    Stalin was directly and indirectly responsible for the deaths of between 50 MILLION and up to 120 MILLION people when he was in charge of his murderous Communist Dictatorship.

    SR
    From Google:
    Holocaust killed 6 million in concentration camps, Stalin killed 20+ million in land reforms and camps, Mao killed 20 million to 45 million in land reforms.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lo-ki View Post
    You can have all the polls you want..... the outcome is on election day.
    Hilary will attest to that

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    Quote Originally Posted by licks2nite View Post
    From Google:
    Holocaust killed 6 million in concentration camps, Stalin killed 20+ million in land reforms and camps, Mao killed 20 million to 45 million in land reforms.
    Your numbers are accurate...but some that where there, claim it to be much higher, and possibly out by 1.3 to 1.6 million, as many regions did not keep records.

    Stalin starved to death 16 million of his own people....the remaining 4 million victims, where either executed in front of their families at home, worked to death in Gulags ,where slaves that worked without sustenance and then executed in Siberia, and stacked up in serpentine graves, still visible today....in my family there was one survivor.
    He told the story many times of how men where worked without food as slaves....when they could no longer stand, they where thrown into a trench, and buried alive with bulldozers.
    .....all the farm animals where taken by the Government to supply military, when the wildlife was depleted, including rats and field mice, the children started to die first....if they weren't buried by the family due to weakness in graves ,their bodies where stolen, or exhumed by other unrelated families, and butchered to feed themselves...anything left over was sold, or traded to other starving people.
    There are people walking around old folks homes in BC, that have consumed other human beings, because of Stalin and his Government policies.....I know them personally, and it's only confessed at the end of life, when they seek forgiveness.

    We cannot know what it is truly like to starve in Canada...and watch your children waste away, because the only thing left after two months of no food... is eating old leather, dirt ,insects....or other people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by licks2nite View Post
    From Google:
    Holocaust killed 6 million in concentration camps, Stalin killed 20+ million in land reforms and camps, Mao killed 20 million to 45 million in land reforms.
    Did Harper starve and or kill or have killed 100 MILLION+ people under his authority/government?......no.

    I see though that rlock has not replied to my post and most likely because actual facts cannot be argued.....his next post will most likely degrade to name calling etc which the Left resorts to when it loses a rational discussion.

    With regards to the sweeping purges in the USSR I speak from what I have been told by people who managed to live through it.From Poland to Moscow I have heard the words of people that managed to LIVE through that horror.Hitler was a maniac infected with syphillis who had a personal hatred of Jews.Stalin was a total fucking monster who had 100 MILLION of his own people killed directly or they were worked to death with starvation helping the goal.

    All of the actions by Stalin were in the ideology of Socialism.......give me Capitalism every fucking chance.

    SR

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    Quote Originally Posted by rlock View Post
    The only thing FPTP has for it is supporters who are better at lying - or those dumb enough to believe the lies.

    As for Harper, no I'm never going to not hate that piece of shit. He's as close to Stalin as Canada ever had. 100 fucking years from now, I'd still piss on him, his legacy, and all his supporters.

    and it's statements like this just that just prove the point that you don't really have a grip on reality

    Harper's legacy? lol

    he didn't do anything worth talking about that really affected anyone dramatically

    and your intelligence is showing with the Stalin comment

    are you a distant cousin to Turdeau?

    he likes to call everyone a Nazi who doesn't share his delusional views of reality

    you should read what another Liberal thinks of that


    https://edmontonsun.com/opinion/colu...ictims-of-hate

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    Quote Originally Posted by overdone View Post
    and it's statements like this just that just prove the point that you don't really have a grip on reality

    Harper's legacy? lol

    he didn't do anything worth talking about that really affected anyone dramatically

    and your intelligence is showing with the Stalin comment

    are you a distant cousin to Turdeau?

    he likes to call everyone a Nazi who doesn't share his delusional views of reality

    you should read what another Liberal thinks of that


    https://edmontonsun.com/opinion/colu...ictims-of-hate
    Harper did get us through a world wide recession , with limited impact.
    When people where losing their homes and businesses in the US, the people of Canada had it dramatically better.
    For once instead of a Lawyer...or Subsitute Drama Teacher for a Prime Minister , we had an Economist PM that actually had a clue as to how too keep our head above water financially , when the rest of the world circled the drain.
    What he may have lacked in personality, he made up in sound decisions to keep the country from going bankrupt....id take him back in a heartbeat over the current shitshow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sybian View Post
    Harper did get us through a world wide recession , with limited impact.
    When people where losing their homes and businesses in the US, the people of Canada had it dramatically better.
    For once instead of a Lawyer...or Subsitute Drama Teacher for a Prime Minister , we had an Economist PM that actually had a clue as to how too keep our head above water financially , when the rest of the world circled the drain.
    What he may have lacked in personality, he made up in sound decisions to keep the country from going bankrupt....id take him back in a heartbeat over the current shitshow.
    Read Stephen Gordon's piece in Maclean's from 2012 - the limited impact of the recession had everything to do with existing banking & mortgage rules and the financial health of our government inherited from the Chretien Liberals. If the collapse had been delayed, we may have suffered more dire consequences as Canadian banking was greedily starting to pick up junk bonds from the US and mortgage regulations were being loosened (ie 40 year mortgage offerings).

    The Canadian economy as a whole has done well during the current Liberal government - sorry Alberta - which is why Scheer can't run on the economy and instead focuses on divisive politics.

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