When a provider asked you your ethnicity

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VictoriaJolie

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Do you tell the truth?I don't discriminate but tonight I encounter something ..Yes I do ask for age and ethnicity as it does give me a better picture of who I will be with .Until today everyone been very upfront specific while it's not what make me to decline someone lying about it doesn't make a good first impression.
Now if someone reply saying Asian I do expect someone Asian .South west Asian while the term is correct h e very different look and mostly refer to East Indian ..etc.To this day I had people told me persian black africain Jamaican east of Europe or specific country or others been specific of their roots but mentioning born in Canada but from.I had guys refer to term I'm not so comfortable to use as brown guy.I do know that some ladies refuse to see black or "brown" guy.I can only imagine how they would react to someone saying Asian but clearly from east India or Pakistan .Of course the situation turn & they were retaliation on his part saying I lied.All that because I told that with his answer while this Asia was extremely misleading and may get him in problems or rejection.
I'm curious on your thoughts on it.Never decline an ethnicity however yes I did with age
 

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Its very deceitful to try and get around the ethnicity question by vaguely saying I'm Asian. When saying you are asian, you usually mean east asian, like Japanese, Korean, Chinese, etc. If you are straight up Persian or Indian, and try to use the technically its asia, then they are trying to use semantics to dodge the inquiry.

Its like saying technically all the guys who are busted on To Catch a Predator are not pedophiles, technically they are hebophiles. Either way you know what they are trying to say.

If the client lies, just turn them away. You don't have to date any specific race if you don't want to, you don't have to see them as a client either.
 

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If the client lies, just turn them away. You don't have to date any specific race if you don't want to, you don't have to see them as a client either.
I agree.
Why lie, if I meet her she is obviously going to be annoyed at me for lying.
Be honest, don't try to trick a lady so you can feel clever or superior.
 

ddcanz

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Its such a shame this is still an issue for some people.
Pretty vague comment.
Directed at...VJ or another SP asking ethnicity? A client dodging the question with semantics? People in general stating an ethnical preference? Declining a session based on ethnicity?
Help us out here.
 

badbadboy

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I've seen Indians state they are Asian or South Asian origin. I never wondered why since India is part of the Asian Continent.

List of all countries and regions in Asia:

Afghanistan
Armenia
Azerbaijan
Bahrain
Bangladesh
Bhutan
Brunei
Burma
Cambodia
China
Cyprus
Georgia
Hong Kong
India
Indonesia
Iran
Iraq


Israel
Japan
Jordan
Kazakhstan
Korea, North
Korea, South
Kuwait
Kyrgyzstan
Laos
Lebanon
Macau
Malaysia
Maldives
Mongolia
Nepal
Oman
Pakistan
Palestine
Philippines
Qatar
Saudi Arabia
Singapore
Sri Lanka
Syria
Taiwan
Tajikistan
Thailand
Turkey
Turkmenistan
United Arab Emirates
Uzbekistan
Vietnam
Yemen
 

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What is the point in lying? You think the lady won't find out at the knock from the door the peep-hole or the camera from the building entrance if it does not meet her criteria?

Myself.....no point in lying as I'm straight up -- an open book. Not worth it.
 

VictoriaJolie

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Yes badbadboy that was his excuse India been part of Asia i know my geography but in the context his answer was to avoid any rejection if I did have issue with his
Ethnicity which he purposely mislead like lick the pussy said to not expect me seeing a difference between Chinese and someone from Pakistan in person ?
How many time you will hear someone from Tunisia from Morocco saying they are African ?Not so much even though they are part of the continent of Africa .
They are ladies that refuse black &brown by his answer she would have book and waste that appointment because he wasn't completely honest & purposely leading that person to believe he was Korean Chinese Japanese etc because it is the most popular common term attributed.Especially in this industry
Similar to someone that is black born and raise in Germany that would say he is European.Sure he is.Would you not think that the lady that refuse to see black would be upset that he omit his skin color..Why not been straight up and says I'm black born and raise in Germany so she could decide herself if it's something she is okay
Look at leolist

Have you seen many ladies with East Indian background advertise in Asian section?
I see all ethnicity but this got me tick as his answer intent to mislead to not get refuse ..
 

VictoriaJolie

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Pretty vague comment.
Directed at...VJ or another SP asking ethnicity? A client dodging the question with semantics? People in general stating an ethnical preference? Declining a session based on ethnicity?
Help us out here.

To answer your question for me I start asking as different ethnicity may have difference cultural customs &with age combine it my reflect a session that may go in a different direction.Im way more apprehensive to meet a young 20 y black male than a 45 years old one.Doesnt mean I will decline but I will ask reference .For me it help me to if I can profile a bit the person with his type of appointment request
To this day I never decline someone solo base on his ethnicity .At most cases it's been the attitude of the person
Some ladies ask that question because she may have issues bad past experiences with that ethnicity.Others might be because they date someone from that particular ethnicity and at time if you want stay anonymous as it's smaller communities it might be an issue.Some others have issues with cultural difference that this ethnicity may have.Personal preference .
Again i don't decline base on that I know some ladies do base on ethnicity at time they even have that restrictions but some guys decide to ignore.
 

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Yes badbadboy that was his excuse India been part of Asia i know my geography but in the context his answer was to avoid any rejection if I did have issue with his
Ethnicity which he purposely mislead like lick the pussy said to not expect me seeing a difference between Chinese and someone from Pakistan in person ?
How many time you will hear someone from Tunisia from Morocco saying they are African ?Not so much even though they are part of the continent of Africa .
They are ladies that refuse black &brown by his answer she would have book and waste that appointment because he wasn't completely honest & purposely leading that person to believe he was Korean Chinese Japanese etc because it is the most popular common term attributed.Especially in this industry
Similar to someone that is black born and raise in Germany that would say he is European.Sure he is.Would you not think that the lady that refuse to see black would be upset that he omit his skin color..Why not been straight up and says I'm black born and raise in Germany so she could decide herself if it's something she is okay
Look at leolist

Have you seen many ladies with East Indian background advertise in Asian section?
I see all ethnicity but this got me tick as his answer intent to mislead to not get refuse ..
I see your point it is misleading. Just stating what I've witnessed for ethnicity.

He may have stated he is Indian to other providers and was declined a date. Who knows the reason but factually he is correct about the Continent but wasn't up front about the Country.

I note on Leo some Asians are ticking the Mixed, Caucasian boxes and show up in searches I've made. Leo list is a whole different thread and I call it Backpage 2.0.
 

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I dont mind being asked. No reason to lie cause if you do you might get blacklisted with that group or around the provider network. Agencies and girls share info on people they wont see and lots of the providers in Canada and the US are asking more and more for references. Ive had some providers tell me that they have had bad experiences with people of certain backgrounds or races so they avoid. I was in an area in the states where a few people from a race robbed a provider so their entire network blacklisted that race. One provider told me she stopped seeing a certain races because they were too "big", lol. I then asked why doesnt she post she'll only see dudes with a small penis then she said "well thats why your here", lol..........

At the end of the day its really their preference. They sell their experience with whoever they want. Its not like a Starbucks, Timmys or some National chain that will get protested. I get that now a days you dont want to get denied because of race but whatever the reason is, its also the providers choice.
 

ddcanz

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To answer your question for me I start asking as different ethnicity may have difference cultural customs &with age combine it my reflect a session that may go in a different direction.Im way more apprehensive to meet a young 20 y black male than a 45 years old one.Doesnt mean I will decline but I will ask reference .For me it help me to if I can profile a bit the person with his type of appointment request
To this day I never decline someone solo base on his ethnicity .At most cases it's been the attitude of the person
Some ladies ask that question because she may have issues bad past experiences with that ethnicity.Others might be because they date someone from that particular ethnicity and at time if you want stay anonymous as it's smaller communities it might be an issue.Some others have issues with cultural difference that this ethnicity may have.Personal preference .
Again i don't decline base on that I know some ladies do base on ethnicity at time they even have that restrictions but some guys decide to ignore.
Thanks Vickie- you've always been open and honest in your dialogue with me, and I understand where you are coming from.
And you were pretty clear in your OP as far as I'm concerned. Bisous mon cheri… :kiss:
My question was asked to that other Winnipeg boy johnnydepth because his comment could be taken several different ways.
 

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Men coming from cultures that treat women like shit are usually the clients escorts want to avoid. Whether the bad attitude comes from the culture or the man learned it from his environment.

Escorts can and do have restrictions, usually based on personal preference (like anal or size for anal etc) or bad situations they have encountered.

Western culture looks at Asian as being Japanese, Chinese or Korean. Although Indian should be included in Asian, our western cultural heritage have named them Indian etc. (I don't know why).

An Indian calling himself Asian is correct. But to our western culture he is lying... You see it might be our western culture's misconception. We (western) could have labelled it wrong, because we forgot to ask how they (other culture) see themselves.

I typically think an Egyptian is lightly skinned colour, but if a black man were to say he was Egyptian, I would think he is lying, when he is correct.

Another thing is if a person from Ghana (is black) and says he is from Africa, we think nothing of it because we think all Africans are black.... not so.... misconceptions. Also the guy from Ghana tells you he is African, because he damn well knows we don't know where Ghana is, but Africa we do. We know the continents better than the countries. Mostly because of information flow/holding, or simply lazy and do not want to memorize all the African countries... (mathematicians and engineers are lazy people, but people are even lazier)

Also in the west we are Canadians, Americans and Mexicans, not North Americans.... We can name our neighbours, but halfway across the world the country becomes the continent. ie Asia

Different cultures think in different ways. Or maybe we are just lazy thinkers.

When we meet new people we are always trying to find bridges between yourself and the new person. We work from the large scale (general) to the small scale (specifics).
 

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Why lie or mislead about something that she is going to find out anyways. I would rather be straight up. But having said that, I can see some guys lie because of some common ethnicity restrictions by some SP's.
 

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In Canada and US are the only form of standard English where Indians are not called Indians. Anyone with British or British Colonial education would call Indians and Pakistanis as Asians, and C/K/J subset Orientals. I have never been called Asian by my British friends, and always called Oriental.

Individual circumstances may apply.
 

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Men coming from cultures that treat women like shit are usually the clients escorts want to avoid
We had a guy from Egypt at work, he was right off the boat so to speak. Very very smart guy and seemed nice enough.

One day I'm talking to him and our female boss asked him to do something. He said yeah and she walked away. He keeps talking for a while. I finally ask if he is going to attend to what she wanted him to do, since it was kind of urgent.
He laughs "Oh no no, no woman tells me what to do". I said he'd better get on it, and he looked at me really seriously and says, "You should not be listening to a woman. A man should not take orders from a woman".
Note that this guy was an engineer, well educated, and in his thirties. These attitudes are deeply embedded in some cultures.
I cringe thinking about an escort having to deal with guys like him.
 

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We had a guy from Egypt at work, he was right off the boat so to speak. Very very smart guy and seemed nice enough.

One day I'm talking to him and our female boss asked him to do something. He said yeah and she walked away. He keeps talking for a while. I finally ask if he is going to attend to what she wanted him to do, since it was kind of urgent.
He laughs "Oh no no, no woman tells me what to do". I said he'd better get on it, and he looked at me really seriously and says, "You should not be listening to a woman. A man should not take orders from a woman".
Note that this guy was an engineer, well educated, and in his thirties. These attitudes are deeply embedded in some cultures.
I cringe thinking about an escort having to deal with guys like him.
Did he get canned?
 

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I'm half Croatian half Iranian, but I look like a lighter skinned Italian as a result of my mix, so I tell SP's that I am a mostly European mix rather than getting specific. I tell the truth about my age though.
 

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Pretty vague comment.
Directed at...VJ or another SP asking ethnicity? A client dodging the question with semantics? People in general stating an ethnical preference? Declining a session based on ethnicity?
Help us out here.
Not directed at anyone, just a statement about society in general. There seems to be this need to categorize, define, and differentiate into things that really have no value or basis. Keep in mind the difference between things that are "real" versus "made up". As some examples, countries are made up; imaginary lines that somebody decided will distinguish one place from another, they aren't any more real than Harry Potter stories. Continents are real landmasses, islands are real. Talking people, Italian, Irish, Korean, etc... all made up, no scientific or biological basis to nationality or ethnicity, they aren't real. Sure trace elements will show up in your DNA if you are from Abu Dhabi, but they will also show up in your DNA if you lived there for a few years regardless of your background. My DNA will show I have spent considerable amounts of time in China, but I'm Caucasian. Again, nothing real about nationality or ethnicity. Just stuff we made up. There has been a research project going on for over a decade now. Millions of of participants from all over the world. The result? 3 distinct genetic profiles for the entire planet. Yes, only 3. Call them what you want, we all know what they are. So a guy from somewhere in India with Indian ethnicity says he's Asian? Is he wrong. Well maybe, but no more so then saying he is Indian. He is Asian based on the geographic location of India based on things we made up. He is Indian based on ethnic things we made up. Biologically he is Caucasian.
So the point is, why do we care about these things?
 
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