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80watts

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From comments around the board, I know alot of people don't like him. Why? Is it because he is a Liberal, doubt it. Because he is spending more money than he has available- most likely. Or because he believes in the social system for the betterment of Canadians. Or his support of First Nations who seem willing enough to throw knives at his back because of the oil pipeline.

Pipelines and Oil supply will be a big issue; along with carbon tax.

Social programs; including universal health care will be platforms.

Bringing in more revenue should be disscussed either through natural resources; export taxes on minerals etc.

Reequipping the military with sustainable dependable equipment that is not 40 years old and is on the shelf for ready deployment.(not borrowed or rented). Replenishable and available stocks of ammunition for training(that bullet cost $1.00, but if we don't shoot it we save a dollar) great thinking--- sad for training......

Governments have to get out of the habit of paying for it out of another budget.... that just cost taxpayers more in the long run.

Mostly I predict a conservative majority.

Anybody that is saying cut taxes for the next election, won't get my vote. It seems like a win-win situation when you say I'll cut taxes. To maintain the status quo and still have tax cuts means the money has to come from somewhere? It just means the promised tax cut, is only a ways to get elected and not try to do the best for the country.

Yes I still want those social programs. For the youth, education.

Demographics - aging population and not enough health care workers to look after them in those badly run old age homes.....

Instead of ripping the country apart, try building it up.........
 

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It's mostly because he's hopelessly clueless when it comes to actual leadership and administration.

He's an example of a great politician who is a bad administrator. Harper is an example of a great administrator who is a poor politician.

Pendulum swings.
 

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well one thing is for sure, the NDP will be obliterated thanks to having a weak, lame leader who no one in their right mind would waste a vote on. i think mad max is onto something with his new party, but there isn't enough time to make a big enough impact in this election.
 

dumass

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I know alot of people don't like him. Why? .
- His pure arrogance, and holier than thou, virtue-signalling personality
- Being the only PM to violate federal ethics and conflict of interests rules
- His inability to answer simple straight forward questions, and instead using useless generic word-salad answers that don't mean anything, saddled with 'um' or 'uhhhhh' between every other word
- Failing to deliver his promise of a balanced budget, and instead bringing the country into astronomically further debt (new projections is Canada cannot balance budget until 2043)
- Defending and Failing to reprimand his corrupt minister of Finance Morneau, who did NOT put his assets into a blind trust, and made government actions/investments which were a clear conflict of interest and benefitted his personal fortune by MILLIONS
- PEOPLEKIND !!!!!!
- Failing to secure a pipeline, and even worse, overpaying to buy the pipeline project for which the government doesn't have the competence to efficiently oversee, costing the taxpayer even more long-term debt.
- the fact that he is a global elitist, and is trying to secure
- Dontated 10M of your taxpayer money to the ultra-legit 'Clinton Foundation'
- Omar Khadar........ yeah....10M cheque to that convicted terrorist and murderer, without giving any fight or letting it escalate to court.
- India Trip Disaster, where he took his family to take a bunch of selfies in bollywood outfits, failed to secure any nett beneficial trade deals (the only deals we made involved Canadian investment in India and not vice versa)
- He Takes like 10 personal days off a month, if you look at his public calendar
- Hijab Hoax....he tweeted out in support of the girl at the first instant the fake hoax was publicised. But when Marissa Shen's death was caused by one of his prised Syrian refugees, he remained silent and unapologetic.
- Groper-in-Cheif, Claims to be a feminist, but can't even admit he groped a girl at the music festival despite contemporaneous proof.
- Blocking freedom of access requests to information about government spending, and that of his cabinet and Gerald Butts, despite his countless campaigning that he would provide "a new era of openness and transparency"
- Creating a $595 million 'slush fund' with YOUR taxpayer money as grants to 'trusted media' (i.e. media outlets which portray him and Liberals and spread their propaganda so they can win the next election)
- Cutting payments to Veteran Affairs, saying they are asking for more than they can provide, and causing them to sue Canada (while at the same time, he cuts cheques to various feminist and gender neutral organisations outside of Canada)
- Getting toasted on the USMCA deal, in which Canada did not gain any benefit over pre-existing NAFTA, and made a number of concessions, but having the arrogance to call it a "Win Win Win" deal despite only making concessions and not getting anything.
- Climate Barbie, and Chrystia "Gollum" Freeland, those disastrous cabinet appointments were the results of his 'gender neutral' cabinet policy, where cabinet positions were given to vaginas instead of people with actual intelligence, competence and qualifications.

I really could go on for days. But its clear that Trudeau is the biggest and dumbest phony to ever be voted as PM, and has done more damage to than any other PM.
 

Mrmotorscooter

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Nailed it there Dumass, i gave him the benefit of the doubt but he is an idiot. He wanted to look good for the EU and UN so the idiot tells the border jumpers from the US that Canada welcomes them. All kinds of Riff Raff can stream into the country and not much can be done about it because the resources for proper vetting are non existant. This is costing tax payers billions, Quebec and Ontario are asking for hundreds of millions just to pay the accomodation bill and there isnt enough to help Canadians who need it. What a fiasco!
 

Amerix

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Elections are usually decided by the economy. The NDP are in the toilet, the Conservatives are in disarray with a weak leader, and most Canadians seem happy with Trudeau spending their grandkid's future earnings as fast as possible. My money's on captain selfie.
 

Lo-ki

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Check your closet..:)
New rule by the Liberals and Trudeau...you MUST spoke POT before voting.
 

JimDandy

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The Liberals best chance of eeking out a win next election is if the NDP keep their lame duck leader and Mad Max manages to run a full suite of candidates in his startup, right wing conservative, party. If these 2 conditions are met, I think the Liberals will win the next election, though it may well be only a minority win.

JD
 

jgg

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New rule by the Liberals and Trudeau...you MUST spoke POT before voting.
I think it would be better after voting.
 

Hugh Jass

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The Liberals best chance of eeking out a win next election is if the NDP keep their lame duck leader and Mad Max manages to run a full suite of candidates in his startup, right wing conservative, party. If these 2 conditions are met, I think the Liberals will win the next election, though it may well be only a minority win.

JD
I wish you were wrong...but unfortunately that scenario makes the most sense at this time.
 

overdone

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the Conservatives are in disarray with a weak leader
yet they managed to raise more money than ever last 4th quarter outside an election

while the Liberals are raising less as Zoolander's blunders wear on


also, his poll results aren't really accurate, he is polling 50% in Atlantic provinces, not so well in the rest, where the seats actually are

Sheer only needs to do well in Ont hold the few in Que and the rest, he could get a majority

chances are they will get a few back in the Atlantic as well
 

jgg

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Gotta love those who prefer the benefits of cheap or free health care and education. Just ask yourself , are you willing to do the job and at what cost ?
It ain't cheap and it sure as hell ain't free. Like the saying, "cheap service isn't good, good service isn't cheap."
 

CanineCowboy

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Trudeau haters never voted for Trudeau in the first place and tend to have a very Conservative bias, so generally their arguments are preaching to their own and don't resonate with the broader electorate. And to be clear, I am not a Liberal voter.

Government spending always trumps debt with the electorate. And remember, it was Harper who added $150 billion to the country's debt, erasing all of Chretien's deficit and debt cutting.

The outrage over the Omar payment is another case in point, not only was it supported by our legal system, but morally it fell in line with our international commitment to recognize and protect child soldiers. Even Omar's appointed US military lawyer condemned Harper's lack of advocacy and was disgusted by our government's inaction - he was interviewed on 'As it Happens'.

Outside of the Canadian Conservatives and their supporters, Chrystia is seen as a star who has returned Canada to being an international middle power. While I was away travelling, every single European I met, upon learning I was Canadian, voiced that they love both Trudeau and Chrystia, while during the Harper years nobody outside of Canada even knew his name, let alone any of his ministers of foreign affairs.

The polls suggest the Liberals are still more popular than the Conservatives, but it is so close, it will be an interesting year.
 
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West End Guy

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Interesting perspectives. When you have to deal with the likes of Saudi Arabia, China and a highly unpredictable US president, it can’t be an easy job. From my perspective, I feel Trudeau has done exceptionally well. So take it away, all you Trudeau haters. I’m sure you feel you have your reason to think otherwise, but I haven’t seen anything here that would convince me to think otherwise.
 

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The CBC and mainstream media continually cover for Trudeau's ineptitude and daily blunders - they all want part of this $595Million media slush fund, given only to the 'good dogs' that get a bone in a crucial election year.

The people who think Trudeau is doing an exceptional job, are probably drinking the CBC kool-aid, and getting high on his legal weed, or far-left socialist SJWs who love to get outraged over things that don't concern them, and have a soft spot for marxism and communism.

Trudeau is getting votes by giving his base more free things at taxpayer expense (while at the same time telling our veterans we don't have money for them). He promised a balanced budget in 2019, but now our deficit is 4 times greater than when he took office in 2015. We are all gonna pay for his Far Left liberal indugences for the next 20 years. I guess budgets don't really balance themselves Justin?

 

CanineCowboy

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The CBC and mainstream media continually cover for Trudeau's ineptitude and daily blunders - they all want part of this $595Million media slush fund, given only to the 'good dogs' that get a bone in a crucial election year.

The people who think Trudeau is doing an exceptional job, are probably drinking the CBC kool-aid, and getting high on his legal weed, or far-left socialist SJWs who love to get outraged over things that don't concern them, and have a soft spot for marxism and communism.

Trudeau is getting votes by giving his base more free things at taxpayer expense (while at the same time telling our veterans we don't have money for them). He promised a balanced budget in 2019, but now our deficit is 4 times greater than when he took office in 2015. We are all gonna pay for his Far Left liberal indugences for the next 20 years. I guess budgets don't really balance themselves Justin?

Harper balanced 1 budget in 9 years. The previous Liberal governments not only ran balanced budgets but also paid down the debt in 9 of 12 fiscal years.

Explain that.
 

Crookedmember

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Harper balanced 1 budget in 9 years. The previous Liberal governments not only ran balanced budgets but also paid down the debt in 9 of 12 fiscal years.

Explain that.
It was actually a fake balance, as they had to do thing like sell the GM shares at a huge loss to give the illusion of a balanced budget.

The last 2 Conservative governments ran up a total of $500 billion of debt (Mulroney $330 B, Harper $160 B). Those 2 Conservative governments are responsible for nearly 75% of our accumulated debt.

Right wingers and their dim-witted memes are deluded.
 

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Harper balanced 1 budget in 9 years. The previous Liberal governments not only ran balanced budgets but also paid down the debt in 9 of 12 fiscal years.

Explain that.
Easy. Paul Martin. He and Chretien (not Chretian BTW) hated each other but at the least Chretien let Martin do his job.
 

dumass

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Harper balanced 1 budget in 9 years. The previous Liberal governments not only ran balanced budgets but also paid down the debt in 9 of 12 fiscal years.

Explain that.
Simple. Your 'facts' are incorrect:

"Did Harper Really Run 8 Straight Deficits? Not Exactly" https://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2015/...ly-run-eight-straight-deficits_n_8082092.html

I'm no big Harper fan, but he ran a balanced budget in 2015 and gave the Federal liberals a 7.5B surplus to work with. Trudeau ballooned government spending by 4 times in less than 3 years. We wont' get a balanced budget now until 2040 estimates the minister of finance. Justify that.
 

CanineCowboy

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The topic here is the ineptitude and arrogance of Trudeau. Nice pivot. It seems there are closet Left wing SJWs who love to get offended over memes, love that.

I'm no big Harper fan, but at least he did run a balanced budget as promised. Trudeau ballooned government spending by 4 times in less than 3 years. Explain that.
Sorry, the topic title is actually "Trudeau: How can he win the next election".

Nice cherry pick. How many times did Harper achieve a balanced budget in 9 fiscal years - possibly once - and what was the net effect of his fiscal record - a $150 billion debt.

Explain it.

And Trudeau currently hasn't even reached the per capita spending that Harper did in 2009.

Explain how Trudeau has increased government spending 400%? A single source will do.
 
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