etransfers ?!

Philmc · Mar 16, 2018

What's with girls asking for etransfers now? I find it hard to believe anyone would do this.

Awhile ago, one girl asked and I declined. She went on a ranting rage, and somehow did a reverse search on my cell phone number (even though it is private) and tried to blackmail me into giving her $1000. She found my Facebook info and threatened to post up my text conversation. I obviously didn't.

Needless to say, it scared the shit out of me, and will never text again. Or call directly. SPs with a good track record for me from now on

deusnova · Mar 16, 2018

I wouldn't agree to an e-transfer unless it was a reliable provider. Not too many around these parts

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Wuncephat · Mar 16, 2018

Providers are having huge issues with fake bookings, no-shows, etc., which is costing them money. I have no issue with an e-transfer deposit to a provider with a stellar reputation that maintains a presence on review boards/social media.

I might risk a small e-transfer (deposit) to a less-reputable provider that I was interested in, but not a large one. If someone unknown/unverifiable requested a large e-transfer, I'd look elsewhere. In the major centers there's many high-visibility providers with a good reputation - Kelowna might be a very different story.

Crookedmember · Mar 16, 2018

If you have facebook on your phone, anyone can enter your phone number into the facebook search box and find your name and account. Even if facebook isn't on your phone, your number may be linked to your name and account.

Use a TextNow or other disposable numbers to contact them. I have TextNow installed on an old phone for these contacts.

Ms Erica Phoenix · Mar 16, 2018

Wuncephat said:
Providers are having huge issues with fake bookings, no-shows, etc., which is costing them money. I have no issue with an e-transfer deposit to a provider with a stellar reputation that maintains a presence on review boards/social media.

I might risk a small e-transfer (deposit) to a less-reputable provider that I was interested in, but not a large one. If someone unknown/unverifiable requested a large e-transfer, I'd look elsewhere. In the major centers there's many high-visibility providers with a good reputation - Kelowna might be a very different story.

Thanks for pointing this out: it's very much the case that time wasters or no shows are more than likely responsible for an increase in providers asking for e-transfer deposits. Many reputable providers, myself included, are adopting this practice for longer engagements. The poster who talks about the drug & other problems that hookers have might want to lift his standards a little & look at more reputable sites or at individual independent ladies' ads/sites. BP is notorious for the scams, but it doesn't mean every provider out there is a scammer, just like every client who requests a 4-, 8-, or 12-hour date isn't a piece of shit time wasting ass...

Lavinia · Mar 16, 2018

E transfer senders can easily say the money was sent incorrectly and cancel the transaction. We’re really taking the larger risk by accepting payment via E transfer. People can come see us, pay via e transfer then cancel it. I’ve seen it happen to a number of ladies. It’s too bad people cant just be honest.

But I do also see the need for deposits. Getting cancelled on is a huge bummer a waste of time. Any reputable provider won’t scam you if for whatever reason they can’t go forward with the appointment and return your deposit.

Fiddy · Mar 16, 2018

Bitcoin works well. I normally just do bitcoins for most deposits.

You don’t run into as many issues. My bank account are forensically audited on a regular basis for US based medium security clearances for corporate, government, & potential military contractors. Those audits are random. They’re always trying to catch you making a mistake. You have to be afraid to blink or sniffle suspiciously.

My lawyer helped me with strategies to move money into Bitcoin and Eurethmem to use for deposits that doesn’t raise flags. I would never use eTransfer in a million years.

johnnydepth · Mar 17, 2018

95% of the time the answer would probably be No to etransfers. It would have to be someone very, very well reviewed, likely a member of one of the boards, and preferably someone I have seen before. I feel for the ladies due to the fake bookings, no shows, etc... However it is an unfortunate part of the job. I would guess most of the no shows are not actually clients but other girls and pimps trying to cut down on the competition. The only time I hear of Pooners fake booking are on ladies that are known to be scam artists, fake ads,etc... and rightfully so.

westwoody · Mar 17, 2018

I use transfers but only for women I know and trust, ie two or three at most.

johnny like most guys I think you under estimate the magnitude of the fake booking problem. I never appreciated it either. Imagine the worst it could possibly be, and multiply by ten.

resercher · Mar 17, 2018

Philmc said:
What's with girls asking for etransfers now? I find it hard to believe anyone would do this.

Awhile ago, one girl asked and I declined. She went on a ranting rage, and somehow did a reverse search on my cell phone number (even though it is private) and tried to blackmail me into giving her $1000. She found my Facebook info and threatened to post up my text conversation. I obviously didn't.

Needless to say, it scared the shit out of me, and will never text again. Or call directly. SPs with a good track record for me from now on

face book or as I like to refer to it fake book twitter social networking websites I try to stay away from all that crap .

The whole reason these websites exist. Is to gather information about you so that they can sell your personal information .To people who want to separate you from your money in one form or another .

This person may not have even been a woman . Could be some guy working on a computer somewhere and this extortion racket is what he does for a living .
Over and over again I read and they found out from my Facebook. or so and so said such and such on twitter that got them into trouble.

If you are involved in this hobby having your personal information accessible to anybody with internet access in the form of Facebook or whatever I just think is not a really good idea .

Crookedmember · Mar 17, 2018

While I'm sure fake bookings are a problem, girls not delivering experiences even remotely close to the wonderful unrushed fantasies they sell in their ads is a far bigger problem. Too bad the customer has no monetary recourse. How many times have you left a provider feeling remorseful and cheated and wished you had just rubbed one out at home for free?

As the original poster described, providing SPs with personal, phone numbers, and banking information that could expose them to blackmail is not a smart idea.

CanineCowboy · Mar 17, 2018

I have used etransfer for paying a woman I trust, and really I have no problem with it, it is secure and all you are giving up is an email address, not any banking information.

I know this because I had my bank contact me last year, I had started accepting etransfer payments from clients and my account had been flagged for suspicious activity. My bank wanted me to explain my business because they explained they can't follow the money beyond the email addresses that had sent it and were concerned that I was involved in possible money laundering.

Dawn2Dusk · Mar 17, 2018

Like others have said I would only consider this if I could find some reviews on here and I felt comfortable.

Just last week I messaged a girl and she said to send an e-transfer of $25 to get her address. Couldn't find any reviews so I noped out.

Now OP has me sketched out I'm going to text the wrong SP one day and get blackmailed as well. I'd lose my shit if someone managed to reverse search my phone number to my FB profile. Think I've gone through all the settings so only friends can do anything with my profile but still. Almost feel like it's not worth the risk. Glad you said this as I never considered it.

604jbear · Mar 17, 2018

Doesn't sending an e-transfer reveal your name? Whenever I've received e-transfers from family/friends, their name usually shows up

cr_tallguy · Mar 17, 2018

604jbear said:
Doesn't sending an e-transfer reveal your name? Whenever I've received e-transfers from family/friends, their name usually shows up

Depending on which bank's software you're using, it's usually really easy to change your name and email to something anonymous for that one etransfer, then change it back afterwards.

Claire Monet · Mar 17, 2018

Anyone reputable isn’t going to risk their good name and long term earnings by stiffing someone for a couple hundred bucks.

CanineCowboy · Mar 17, 2018

Sorry you are right, the name on the account is included. But you can set it as nmo_tallguy suggests.

Peyton Alexander · Mar 17, 2018

Not to beat a dead horse but like many others have said - no respectable provider with a consistent web presence will risk their professional reputation over a few hundred dollars. Deposits merely show your commitment to holding the time you’ve requested. I cannot think of anyone who double books appointment times and blocking off a significant amount of time only to have an individual not honour their booking can have fairly significant monetary consequences, let alone the time a provider takes out of their life to prepare for the engagement.

I personally require deposits on bookings longer than 4 hours in duration or occasionally in the instance of a duo booking, particularly if one doesn’t have a reference and we have to coordinate our personal schedules to accommodate it.

While I can sympathize with trying to preserve a level of anonymity in this world, unfortunately until cryptocurrency options become easier to utilize (for both sides) direct transfer is generally the easiest method in which to do so.

felixthecat · Mar 17, 2018

CanineCowboy said:
My bank wanted me to explain my business because they explained they can't follow the money beyond the email addresses that had sent it and were concerned that I was involved in possible money laundering.

They are either incompetent, or they lied to you. Once the etransfer is claimed, the banks on both sender and receiver side have the banking information (bank, account number, legal name of the account holder).
Anonymity was never promised as a part of e-transfer service. Exactly for the reasons of fighting money laundering, banks have to keep those records.

Moreover, to my knowledge, there is no legal reason why a bank cannot tell you who was the counterpart of your own transaction. The clerks may not know how, or they won't spend the time, but they have it. They can find the information if it's subpoenaed, for sure.

Fiddy said:
My lawyer helped me with strategies to move money into Bitcoin and Eurethmem to use for deposits that doesn’t raise flags.

It's possible your setup is safe, but I'd warn others that bitcoin and other digital currencies transactions are not as anonymous as they may appear, either. Lots of extra steps are needed for that. Blockchain technology is like a ledger, after all, and can link a money transfer to an identifiable transaction like buying coins on an exchange. Many people got letters from IRS and other tax agencies that demand explanations on those transactions.

Fiddy · Mar 17, 2018

felixthecat said:
They are either incompetent, or they lied to you. Once the etransfer is claimed, the banks on both sender and receiver side have the banking information (bank, account number, legal name of the account holder).
Anonymity was never promised as a part of e-transfer service. Exactly for the reasons of fighting money laundering, banks have to keep those records.

Moreover, to my knowledge, there is no legal reason why a bank cannot tell you who was the counterpart of your own transaction. The clerks may not know how, or they won't spend the time, but they have it. They can find the information if it's subpoenaed, for sure.

It's possible your setup is safe, but I'd warn others that bitcoin and other digital currencies transactions are not as anonymous as they may appear, either. Lots of extra steps are needed for that. Blockchain technology is like a ledger, after all, and can link a money transfer to an identifiable transaction like buying coins on an exchange. Many people got letters from IRS and other tax agencies that demand explanations on those transactions.

That’s why I had my lawyer help me with setting-up a fool proof approach.

Setting-up bitcoin wallets are easy. The most time consuming part is transferring Bitcoin back into real currency. Deposits under $200 bucks in bitcoin are easy to move back into real money. Amounts over $800 get delayed.

Maybe I need change professions or something if want to keep seeing ladies. It takes 8-12 months alone to get a medium security clearance from the department of Homeland Security. It’s by far the hardest one to get and hardest one to keep.

It’s a problem how to do business with a country (US) that wants to silence it’s sex workers online while trying to figure how to make things work at home for my favourite activity.

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