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felixthecat

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I can think of many respected members who don't review. Like, that former member from the East who tracked legislation news.
Not reviewing does not get people in trouble. What does, is some controversial aspect in their posts, when the poster is not universally seen as an asset to the community.
The simple solutions are, be useful or don't be controversial. Otherwise, the Lounge is still relatively free speech. The rules are the same for everybody. The mods should be impartial but ordinary members will have some bias, realistically.

Lurkers and leeches are still beneficial to the community. Even by reading, they increase reviews' impact. The aggregate adds value for the advertisers, keeping the board afloat.

One case that triggers suspicion, somebody who may be not involved with the industry (now/before/in future), but spends time here. You have to wonder about their motives.

If I were to advise how to participate without reviewing,
  • Don't tell us how to review. That doesn't have much weight when it comes from a leech.
  • Don't expect we spent extra time helping you answering PMs and multiple 411 queries.
  • Be prepared for extra scrutiny if your posts look like trolling or insults, so better avoid those. Reviewing members get more leeway in borderline cases.
  • Don't expect you can get the same respect and admiration here as some other members who do review. There are surely other places on the internet and in real life to get recognized, why try it on a review board.
 

LoadShooter

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I've seen people called names on this forum because they don't go out and TOFFT. I personally feel no one is obligated to do that. If you want to do it and report back that is definitely appreciated, but no one on here should feel pressured to do that by others.

I recently tried to do a TOFFT a few months back and was greeted with fake pics and decided to walk. This girl would go one to receive a number of negative reviews.
 

theimp

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I struggle with reviews. I used to post on bcaf( evljny )and I wrote a few reviews, of the ladies I had enjoyed. However I was new to the scene and naive. My review, though glowing, caused one lady some grief, when I mentioned some services I had enjoyed, which were not on the regular menu( I did not know, or I would not have said anythng ). Since then I have, basically, followed my general rule of dating, and that is, never talk about one woman in front of another. For the last few months I have been seeing an old regular( now retired ) as a fwb, so no reviews. I do, however enjoy the discussions that arise on this board and enjoy connecting with like minded people.
 

cktc9

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This board has been a excellent source of information for me, however, those DNR requests must be honoured if repeat visits are to happen!

Having said that, it can get a bit circular at times, as it can be difficult to find out anything about some of these women, yet they are well respected...
So. How do I find out anything about them?
Beyond saying; "Yes, Miss Flirty Pants is worth the time, always punctual, and the location is clean and tidy." But that can sound like a poorly written Yelp review, and doesn't give any indication of the experience.

I have found some useful and relevant reviews of the DNR's, only to find the review disappears.
Would it not be in their interest to permit some form of generic review, with large YMMV warnings posted?
...otherwise, how does a "wanna be regular" like me find them in the first place?
I'm sure a fair number of us average Joes are similar enough that some form of acceptable review should be permitted.
 

rlock

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I've seen people called names on this forum because they don't go out and TOFFT. I personally feel no one is obligated to do that. If you want to do it and report back that is definitely appreciated, but no one on here should feel pressured to do that by others.

I recently tried to do a TOFFT a few months back and was greeted with fake pics and decided to walk. This girl would go one to receive a number of negative reviews.
Ignore the criticism. If one can contribute such intel, great. But it's not an obligation.

Nobody should be browbeaten into it just for asking a question - especially someone new who hasn't seen any SP's before. Some people have that experience and confidence level, others don't. It should never be wrong to ask, even if nobody else has an answer.
 

80watts

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In the review section:
I liked her.
In the 411 section:
Stay away from this bitch, because I like her.
 

Fiddy

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I have seen it all on this board and in this inustry , good , bad and the ugly..., and I have seen how Excellent reviews did not increase nor Bad reviewsr decrease a service providers revenue .
As almost all of the wise pooners will agree , they will take most reviews with a grain of salt, do thier own due diligence and make thier own mind up whetehr or not a certain provider is what they are looking for at that time ( lets all remember the universal reason for men pooning ) is they like and enjoy Variety !

As it has been said so many time on these boards DNR is do not review , it does not stand for scammer , fake pics bad service etc , all of which will have your DNR Status removed by Perb , also there is a public service section and any pooner or Service provider that is a scammer etc etc can and will have postings allowed in those areas .

DNR is merely I Great way to have Privacy and Discretion to protect a provider and her clients , by not outing her via details about location , incall, physical descriptions etc ... and to stop the gossip and bs revenge reviews and blatant shills .

So as for Posting reviews or being DNR , make your own choice and do not Apologize to anyone for living your life on your own terms . Men and women both tend to respect that in a Perrson!
You hit the nail on the nose Ava.

There’s tons of peer pressure in Alberta to be a reviewers. The “lurkers” which are actually high-end clients & married guys are being beat-up all the time.

The concept of a client not being a reviewer is unfathomable. The market is diverse. Not everyone is a reviewer. Review board members only make-up 10% of the market.

You should be writing reviews under your own volition.
 

Fiddy

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If I did not know better, I would think you had my client list :) lol , but that is only kept in a very secret place and is coded and incripted :) I am that Discreet! 90 % are repeat high-end clients & married guys that do enjoy the priviledge of my DNR status .

and yes to "Review board members only make-up 10% of the market" ... even here n Perb you can see that maybe only 10-25 Max of the membership actually post reviews , there are still and always will be many who are wise and discreet .

OH and let's just add to that the ever famous threats of bad reviews for reasons like the example Kamivix , or the guy that refused to even wash his hands let alone shower prior to a massage or session complain that oyu did not allow him to use digits , or maybe you dont do full service and he want to complain about your price , or brag and bs that he got so much more out of you then the other guy , way too much one upmanship bs on review boards and way too many details , and not enough discretion .

I think a template would make review boards a little more acceptable but it wont stop the liars , the comeption and the revenge reviews :(
I am cheating. I’m a marketing professional. I’m a Google, Alexa , and Bing certified professional. I know the numbers. 90% of the reviews come from the top 800-1000 members on any review board in Canada. That usually works out to about 10%.

The artificially intelligent Google, Alexa, Facebook, Bing bots don’t want your money & they don’t need blow jobs. The internet bots don’t have hidden agendas. They accurate tell you what the clients are doing versus what the clients tell you what they are doing. You can’t lie and you can’t fool a Google Bot. It knows when you’re being dishonest. The bots know the clients better than they know themselves.

Ladies should actually be relying on things like Alexa and Google to see what the clients are actually doing. Alexa tells you 90% of the clients will never write review. Amazon Alexa never lies.

We need to remember that the clients who are not writing reviews are customers too. If you beat them up for not writing reviews, they won’t be customers.
 

WiFiGuY

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I’m a new member to perb, somewhere in the forums I read from a senior member that they write reviews to keep track of there personal experiences which is what inspired me to start writing my own reviews. Shill me if you want, keep the salt on hand if you are reading any of my contributions. If your ATF pops for me, sorry in advance. Call it a discrepancy.
 

SkinnyJohn

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If I did not know better, I would think you had my client list :) lol , but that is only kept in a very secret place and is coded and incripted :) I am that Discreet! 90 % are repeat high-end clients & married guys that do enjoy the priviledge of my DNR status .
I wonder how many posters on Perb are married and do not want to leave a digital trail? It makes a lot of sense for those in relationships to not review in case they get caught. There was a famous poster who got in trouble for all his reviews and asked to be banned and have everything removed.
 

SeekSteadyRegSP

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I've been around long enough to see wide and varied contributions from past and present members that don't necessarily post actual reviews.
Some of these members don't ever see SPs, some are in relationships with SPs, some have retired from the "hobby" yet still involve themselves in the forums, some have posted a shitload in the past and now mostly watch from the sidelines and occasionally chime in anecdotally, some have limited themselves to a single SP, some see SPs yet refrain from sharing......some just have their own reasons, period, I suppose.
Personally, I don't have a big problem with it if said members offer up other relevant, insightful, thoughtful and even just entertaining commentary throughout the various forums.
Although speaking in general terms I am definitely a proponent of the intent of this REVIEW board. And I will also admit I've called a few members out over the years, although this had more to do with the content of their posts, not that they were just vociferating from the bleachers.
What do you all think ...

I don't think you've been "around long enough"


Nice try though.
 

Fiddy

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The important thing is not to beat and bash them. The guys who don’t post/don’t post much are not lurkers. They are “Discreet Gentlemen”. They’re also high value clients to SP’s. Don’t put them down or beat them up. You’ll scare them away and you’ll hurt the bottomline of the ladies advertising here.
 

Addison Cortez

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I have seen it all on this board and in this industry , good , bad and the ugly..., and I have seen how Excellent reviews did not increase nor Bad reviewsr decrease a service providers revenue .
As almost all of the wise pooners will agree , they will take most reviews with a grain of salt, do thier own due diligence and make thier own mind up whetehr or not a certain provider is what they are looking for at that time ( lets all remember the universal reason for men pooning ) is they like and enjoy Variety !

As it has been said so many time on these boards DNR is do not review , it does not stand for scammer , fake pics bad service etc , all of which will have your DNR Status removed by Perb , also there is a public service section and any pooner or Service provider that is a scammer etc etc can and will have postings allowed in those areas .

DNR is merely I Great way to have Privacy and Discretion to protect a provider and her clients , by not outing her via details about location , incall, physical descriptions etc ... and to stop the gossip and bs revenge reviews and blatant shills .

So as for Posting reviews or being DNR , make your own choice and do not Apologize to anyone for living your life on your own terms . Men and women both tend to respect that in a Person!
I agree Ava. Thank you for your kind words :) I think privacy is the most important thing in this industry (aside from respect)

I am cheating. I’m a marketing professional. I’m a Google, Alexa , and Bing certified professional. I know the numbers. 90% of the reviews come from the top 800-1000 members on any review board in Canada. That usually works out to about 10%.

The artificially intelligent Google, Alexa, Facebook, Bing bots don’t want your money & they don’t need blow jobs. The internet bots don’t have hidden agendas. They accurate tell you what the clients are doing versus what the clients tell you what they are doing. You can’t lie and you can’t fool a Google Bot. It knows when you’re being dishonest. The bots know the clients better than they know themselves.

Ladies should actually be relying on things like Alexa and Google to see what the clients are actually doing. Alexa tells you 90% of the clients will never write review. Amazon Alexa never lies.

We need to remember that the clients who are not writing reviews are customers too. If you beat them up for not writing reviews, they won’t be customers.
what are these and what would we use them for? I'm totally lost...

The important thing is not to beat and bash them. The guys who don’t post/don’t post much are not lurkers. They are “Discreet Gentlemen”. They’re also high value clients to SP’s. Don’t put them down or beat them up. You’ll scare them away and you’ll hurt the bottomline of the ladies advertising here.
my issue is that one review from a certain "type" of client may scare off a different "type". I provide different services and I just don't need any more confusion than what I already have :laugh: (I mean I wouldn't want to scare off a therapeutic massage by them thinking I am going to chain them up and dominate them, or vice versa) so in my case a good review may effect my business in ways not yet mentioned here

all in all it's important to know who is a scam and who is real but having a place to meet all and interesting types where we can discuss related topics IMO makes it worth my investment
 

sevenofnine

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I find it such a personal issue
each person has likes dislikes.

I have seen girls that have come highly recommended and left disappointed.
and I suppose the reverse. is true as well

I have known also, my reviews have ruined it for a long time client of the sp I reviewed. they had a thing going on and he couldn't handle it,

I also kind of think its up to the girl to make her own business if she is good, she won't have a problem why does she need me.
am I getting paid to review her, to advertise her,
I no longer wear any brand names if I can help it, if under armor or who the fuck every wants me to wear there stuff, they can pay, me,
just me, im down with all this commercialism
and again its just me
 

Fiddy

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I agree Ava. Thank you for your kind words :) I think privacy is the most important thing in this industry (aside from respect)



what are these and what would we use them for? I'm totally lost...



my issue is that one review from a certain "type" of client may scare off a different "type". I provide different services and I just don't need any more confusion than what I already have :laugh: (I mean I wouldn't want to scare off a therapeutic massage by them thinking I am going to chain them up and dominate them, or vice versa) so in my case a good review may effect my business in ways not yet mentioned here

all in all it's important to know who is a scam and who is real but having a place to meet all and interesting types where we can discuss related topics IMO makes it worth my investment
Alexa.com is a web analytics tools that tracks all of the traffic moving on the web. It’s an SEO tool used to measure the performance of websites. SP’s should be looking at Alexa to see which sites are performing well. It tells you things like time on site, web pages ranking, search ranking, ect.
 

Addison Cortez

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Alexa.com is a web analytics tools that tracks all of the traffic moving on the web. It’s an SEO tool used to measure the performance of websites. SP’s should be looking at Alexa to see which sites are performing well. It tells you things like time on site, web pages ranking, search ranking, ect.
I don't understand the language you speak ;)
 

felixthecat

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I don't understand the language you speak ;)
Good. It shows you are normal.

I don't doubt there could be some value in using alexa.com or whatever, but it was made for web professionals. It's unlikely you can understand it without some kind of a detailed guide.

Also I see it's not free, so it's not obvious that money and time investment is justified.
 

Fiddy

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Good. It shows you are normal.

I don't doubt there could be some value in using alexa.com or whatever, but it was made for web professionals. It's unlikely you can understand it without some kind of a detailed guide.

Also I see it's not free, so it's not obvious that money and time investment is justified.
For most ladies needs the free version of Alexa is good enough. Google Analytics and Bing Analytics are free. Those both can be installed on any website.
 

felixthecat

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For most ladies needs the free version of Alexa is good enough. Google Analytics and Bing Analytics are free. Those both can be installed on any website.
OK then. I only took a quick glance at https://www.alexa.com/plans before and didn't see anything free, other than a 7-day trial. There seem to be some tutorials. I have no opinion on how long it takes for an average WIX site creator to learn web analytics, so the learning effort part is not obvious to me.
 
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