White Supremacists holding a rally in Vancouver this weekend.

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storm rider

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Grab your baseball bats and hockey sticks, it's time to go Nazi hunting this Saturday at Vancouver City Hall.

http://globalnews.ca/news/3669744/f...er-city-hall-to-be-met-by-counter-protesters/


Just as a reminder, while everyone has the right to free speech, we do have limitation clauses. Lets hope Mayor Moonbeam has enough common sense to cancel the white supremacists' rally.
Why the fuck dont you just honestly say " I support Free Speech....BUT I dont agree with what they have to say.Keeping in mind that the word "but" in a sentence negates ANYTHING you said before it no matter how positive it's intent.

Futhermore how do you know it is a "white supremacist" rally? Do you have some secret insider information? For that matter what do you consider to be a "white supremacist"?.Is a blue collar guy who works a 40 hour week and opposes mass immigration a "White Supremacist"?If that that same guy has Conservative Values is he a "White Supremacist" because he wants smaller Government and less taxes combined with less bureaucratic waste?

From just your first line in your post it is obvious that you are filthy disgusting SJW.....a filthy disgusting SJW that has no regard towards Democracy and it's results.No doubt you also take funds to sustain your life from foreign special interest groups or you are a leach on Societal Social Programs like welfare and you contribute nothing to Society in general.All you do is TAKE and at the same time try to sew discord.I just bet you were one of the douchebags that smashed and looted during the last Stanley Cup riot in Vancouver.....all words and encouragement and enabling to the easily manipulated around you.

Do you as a hypocrite also show up at "protests" against pipelines just for the sake of doing so....whilst at the same time driving a car to get there to the so called "protest"?

You are lower on the life scale than the teburculotic sputem spat out by Stalin on his death bed.

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Nazi's were pro-Islam and actually allied with them shortly before the WWII finished because radical islam was their last best hope at irradiating jews. So be careful with how you use the word Nazi i guess is my point...
 

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i am afraid that the arrival of the counter protesters will kick off violence....and then by default make it a big news story....if i had my druthers i would tell everyone to stay home, don't give them any credibility

i mean how long would a story about 50 protesters and no violence be in the news....it's a bit of a yawn...who cares type thing...

anyway, i guess we'll see what happens

a friend of mine said today that if we HATE nazi's and HATE white nationalists and HATE soldiers of odin....isn't that a whole lot of hate? and that hate is hate....

i have no answer and am struck by how quickly things seem to be escalating...

love susie
 

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i am afraid that the arrival of the counter protesters will kick off violence....and then by default make it a big news story....if i had my druthers i would tell everyone to stay home, don't give them any credibility

i mean how long would a story about 50 protesters and no violence be in the news....it's a bit of a yawn...who cares type thing...

love susie
Too true. Good advice. Ignore them and they don't get what they want - more publicity.

The OP's suggestion of going down with baseball bats to counter-protest is exactly what they want, and feed off.

Anyone who goes down to "counter protest" may as well sign up to the other side, because it's the confrontations that grow the fascists.
 

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Completely agree! As much as the alt-right/bro-nazi/white supremacists anger me and make me wish I was a Jedi Master that could Force choke them all, any violence simply feeds into their warped ideals and minds and justifies their actions.

Better to take the MLK/Gandhi route: passive non-violent resistance offers the best hope of lasting change. One could argue that there hasNOT been lasting change after these two and others like them but I would still argue that the change they instituted has still been stronger and more solid than any violent protest would hope to gain.

If you do go down there, shower these folks with love, flowers, hugs, etc. It will completely baffle and unsettle them and make a mockery of their views. (And yes it will probably make you barf too...)
 

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i am afraid that the arrival of the counter protesters will kick off violence....and then by default make it a big news story....if i had my druthers i would tell everyone to stay home, don't give them any credibility

i mean how long would a story about 50 protesters and no violence be in the news....it's a bit of a yawn...who cares type thing...

anyway, i guess we'll see what happens

a friend of mine said today that if we HATE nazi's and HATE white nationalists and HATE soldiers of odin....isn't that a whole lot of hate? and that hate is hate....

i have no answer and am struck by how quickly things seem to be escalating...

love susie
The most powerful 'weapon' in a discussion like this is indifference.

Staying at home, not gawking at these cretins nor engaging them in any discussion is critical. All they want is attention and fighting or arguing with them gives the credibility they crave.

The problem is some people from the 'what is right side' also want to be seen leading the charge against all the hate. Hence giving these hate filled people credence in their side of the discussion.

Personally, I'm most likely going to be somewhere peaceful, tuning out from this madness.
 

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Completely agree! As much as the alt-right/bro-nazi/white supremacists anger me and make me wish I was a Jedi Master that could Force choke them all, any violence simply feeds into their warped ideals and minds and justifies their actions.

Better to take the MLK/Gandhi route: passive non-violent resistance offers the best hope of lasting change. One could argue that there hasNOT been lasting change after these two and others like them but I would still argue that the change they instituted has still been stronger and more solid than any violent protest would hope to gain.
I see this in pretty much the same way as susi, Cock Throppled, FreeG, badbadboy
Having hate (even towards the undesirable side) can consume oneself and grow. I don't have an answer for it neither. They are so brainwashed and mired in hate. To have deep hate for them is understandable to some degree. But the hate "in some form" is the same, just on the other side. "Before you embark on a journey of revenge, dig two graves."
 
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Well said .... it may sound cornball but FreeG words "If you do go down there, shower these folks with love, flowers, hugs, etc. It will completely baffle and unsettle them and make a mockery of their views.

are prob the best way to deal with ignorant people. No sense in trying to fight fire with fire :(
Really, and encourage the anti-hippie movement,,,,way to go.....yes I realize you mean well. However, you want to throw a monkey wrench into this....everybody go there naked,,,that'll confuse the issue.
 

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Grab your baseball bats and hockey sticks, it's time to go Nazi hunting this Saturday at Vancouver City Hall.

http://globalnews.ca/news/3669744/f...er-city-hall-to-be-met-by-counter-protesters/


Just as a reminder, while everyone has the right to free speech, we do have limitation clauses. Lets hope Mayor Moonbeam has enough common sense to cancel the white supremacists' rally.
Since when is ok to assault someone who has has an opinion you don't like; no matter how deplorable it may be?
 

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this thread is just a bunch of people speaking in platitudes with intellectually flaccid arguments. The anti-nazi's are doomed to become nazis because the only speech they're interested in protecting is censored speech.
 

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There is NO room in this world for Nazi's/Anti-Nazi's to resurface! My grandfather was ordered to bomb Germany in WW2, it was either that or loose all of England to Hitler, my grandmother left Ukraine in that era to escape the Concentration camps, so this is very very close to home...

That same mentality from what we have all seen now exists on both sides... this negative energy, this hate filled propaganda from both sides, the mass destruction, loss of liberties, no borders so basically anyone from the USA can come to Canada or from any other country thru USA because of Trudeau... This has reached a tipping point for average canadians who have many canadians on social assistance already with the aging population etc etc. I'm totally fine with vetoed immigration with background checks the way it used to be was fine, not open borders! Regardless of religions and beliefs and ideologies...

All extremist activities from all sides needs to stop, people need to reevaluate their lives if that's what they are choosing to do day in day out, they are becoming insurgents/rebels/terrorists ... from either side, and creating a civil war and it's turning into a world war. It happened in Syria, Europe, now the USA, and Canada.

On video, I just saw about a dozen white supremacist fully armed and with shields and bats, even guns, kick the shit out of a young black teen.. bloodied face... That could have been my kid... I've seen more videos of these so-called Anti-Fascists doing the same shit like throwing bricks at people in the face. ... I am LIVID at how selfish these protestors and media are being carrying on the way they are endangering our kids' lives every day with this instability. Both sides should be ASHAMED of themselves!!

Time to face reality, love your neighbours as yourself and grow the fuck up! I will not be attending any of these protests with or without baseball bat.. imo even suggesting it is feeding the beast. Words are Weapons and we as a society need to be more responsible with how we express ourselves, especially in a heated situation as this...there are many people out there from both sides looking for permission and an excuse, I will give them neither.

I will be in deep thought and meditation over the current state of the world and sincerely am concerned for human beings as a species... I am not afraid of North Korea, I am not afraid of Iran, I am definitely not afraid of Cuba... We are all pawns in the game of chess, imagine how many baseball bats, guns and amo are sold over the states and the world every time there is another "protest" it's just a game people!! Stay home, have a life, raise your families.. there's better things to do than take part in stupidity both ways equally. Do not feed the greedy Beast.
 

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send me your email....... I will send you a naked picture :) Hugs :hug: and Kisses xoxo Ava :hippie:

I beats the heck out of baseball Bats and Hockey sticks , IMHO
......can I blow it up and use it as a protest sign..????? :hug:
 

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Why the fuck dont you just honestly say " I support Free Speech....BUT I dont agree with what they have to say.Keeping in mind that the word "but" in a sentence negates ANYTHING you said before it no matter how positive it's intent.
We don't live in America. We live in Canada. The Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms guarantees the rights and freedoms set out in it subject only to such reasonable limits prescribed by law as can be demonstrably justified in a free and democratic society. That's why we don't use the word "but'". It's in our Charter.

Futhermore how do you know it is a "white supremacist" rally? Do you have some secret insider information?
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Talk about stiring the pot, you had ME going there for a minute , ready to go down and counter protest .
It is not a white supremacist rally, it is anti islam and anti immagration....the counter protesters " Stand Up to Racism Metro Van." are as foolish as you , as this is not about race.
1) How do I know it's a white supremacist rally? Because the article says the Soldiers of Odin will be there, for one. They are connected to Finland's far-right movment and their high ranking leaders have shown sympathies to the Nazis. Also, An examination performed by the Anti-Defamation League of Soldiers of Odin USA's private Facebook group found that members were predominantly white supremacists (including Skinheads, Neo-Nazis, neo-Confederates, and knights of the Ku Klux Klan), self-described Norse pagans, and anti-government extremists and militia group members, including followers of the Three Percenter movement...

2) World Coalition against Islam will be there. Ever hear Wild Bill talk? He calls Muslims barbarians and a ton of other racist rhetoric. Oh yeah, he's literally advocating the eradication of Muslims. He also claims they are all rapists. TL/DR: They go against our freedom of religion.

For that matter what do you consider to be a "white supremacist"?.Is a blue collar guy who works a 40 hour week and opposes mass immigration a "White Supremacist"?If that that same guy has Conservative Values is he a "White Supremacist" because he wants smaller Government and less taxes combined with less bureaucratic waste?
LOL. WTF is this garbage? You sniffing whiteout? They're white supremacists because they have sympathies towards the Nazis, affliiated with the KKK and are calling for the genocide of religion.

/reads the rest. Oh, I've been trolled. Shoot.

Islam is not a race it is a religion
You're right, but wrong. Islam is treated as a race in Western European/North American society. Kind of like Judaism is a religion, but, is treated as a race.

People are starting to feel over burdened by the liberal government and its attitude about putting the country in a huge deficit while helping many immigrants. . .

This is not redneck south USA for goodness sake, this is multi cultural Vancouver Canada :)
Point 1) Then they should be telling Canada and America to stop ruining their countries. Also, we've taken more in because we have a lot of private sponsoring happening. Also also, we need them for our population woes. Again, they should be taking their grievances with the government as to why it's almost impossible to raise one child, let alone children.

Point 2) Multi-Cultural Vancouver. Yes, and how exactly did we become multicultural again?
 

uncleg

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If the alt-right shows up and nobody else does....what happens....nothing. A bunch of people stand around sounding off on how much righter/whiter they are..then the next guy. At worst they start beating on each other to prove they be righter or whiter....if there are no cameras they probably won't even do that.
 

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Too true. Good advice. Ignore them and they don't get what they want - more publicity.The OP's suggestion of going down with baseball bats to counter-protest is exactly what they want, and feed off. Anyone who goes down to "counter protest" may as well sign up to the other side, because it's the confrontations that grow the fascists.
History has proven the only way to quell them is through force. These people are like mice. Ever have a mice problem? At first, one or two comes out at night for a few weeks to get the lay of the land. Then, after they get more comfortable, they start to scope your place out earlier and earlier. Eventually, you have dozens of them running around freely because they know there will be no consequences. I give you White supremacists in 2k17. Being moral and taking the high ground is no defense against White supremacists who conduct group beatings, burn down mosques, terrorist attacks, etc.

Better to take the MLK/Gandhi route: passive non-violent resistance offers the best hope of lasting change. One could argue that there hasNOT been lasting change after these two and others like them but I would still argue that the change they instituted has still been stronger and more solid than any violent protest would hope to gain.
If you do go down there, shower these folks with love, flowers, hugs, etc. It will completely baffle and unsettle them and make a mockery of their views. (And yes it will probably make you barf too...)
So, owning a home is a childish pipe dream but cordial dialogue with white supremacists is a winnable strategy? Got it. Also, you aren't too familiar with MLK or Gandhi, are you?



There is NO room in this world for Nazi's/Anti-Nazi's to resurface! My grandfather was ordered to bomb Germany in WW2, it was either that or loose all of England to Hitler, my grandmother left Ukraine in that era to escape the Concentration camps, so this is very very close to home...
Excellent post. All of it.

For those of you choosing to stay home, please know that is your privileged to have that choice. In all likliness, these shitstains won't hurt you because you're white and/or look Christian, which to them, is white. There's lots of good folk on here who do not have the privilege. If you love your city/country/democracy, you should turn up at the very least to let those losers know they aren't welcome.

I urge all of you to consider the Paradox of Tolerance:

The paradox of tolerance, first described by Karl Popper in 1945, is a decision theory paradox. The paradox states that if a society is tolerant without limit, their ability to be tolerant will eventually be seized or destroyed by the intolerant. Popper came to the seemingly paradoxical conclusion that in order to maintain a tolerant society, the society must be intolerant of intolerance.
 
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