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Thread: BBFS Discussion: Why does PERB not allow talk of it

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    BBFS Discussion: Why does PERB not allow talk of it

    Long before I came on the scene as the moderator here, PERB as had a rule about BBFS, it's not to be discussed.

    I can only speculate on why, to discourage promotion/discussion of those providers who do offer it, to prevent false and malicious claims that some providers offer it and others do not. Regardless, it's the rule and when I see it, or someone flags a post about it, it's deleted. Depending on the context, infractions or bans are issued, especially if the post itself is malicious, setting out to hurt someone's reputation without proof, or making unfounded claims about medical issues etc. Even those trying to be helpful and warn people about an ad that promotes BBFS are mostly just drawing attention to it and promoting it.

    I want to hear what the group thinks and feels about this. I do not want names or examples, this is a theoretical/principle type discussion. Clearly, it's medically foolish to partake in bare back full service, the chances of STI transmission skyrocket, along with pregnancy, but even some may argue against that.

    Play nice, I don't want to see name calling or anything silly, adult discussion of a serious topic is my intent. Also, I hope to publicize the fact to all, especially those who have never read the rules, that we don't allow BBFS discussions about providers in reviews. The frequency of these posts has been creeping up lately.

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    There have been many times in the past when someone mentioned BBFS almost immediately there were multiple posts requesting the contact information. When pressed about it almost all will say that they want to know the contact info so they can avoid that lady in the future. Yeah and I have a bridge to sell you.

    I think deleting public mention of BBFS is a good policy. You can almost never prove if it's really being offered and all it does is provide "notoriety" (ie publicity) and there is a certain percentage of guys who are willing to risk their health for a minute more amount of pleasure. The community doesn't need that kind of promoting. And it's a good way for competitors to slander their competition too.

    I'm not being naive. It's happening but I don't think it needs to be mentioned in public on this board.
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    As already said no one can prove such claims but boy could a stalker screw up a sp rep. With lies and again plant a seed in ones mind. It's a good policy to get rid of such postings imho

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    I've never done or even contemplated BBFS in my entire life.

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    Tim McGee.

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    I wholeheartedly agree,mentioning specific sps or ads that are offering it is just promoting for those looking. That's why I couldn't understand why the thread I started was deleted. I was trying to get Leolist admins attention to the blatant advertising of it right in the ad titles in many cases! A few ladies have mentioned to me that more and more potential clients are requesting this and they feel its because so many ads openly offer it now. I have written to admin on Leolist ,as have some ladies and to my knowledge no replies have been received.

    One sp mentioned that there have been a few that have assumed bbfs is on offer because her ad states open-minded. And she has had to deal with the client trying to insist on it or wanting money back/threats of bad reviews! I think these ladies are right in thinking that it has everything to do with Leolist allowing it. How long before a lady is forced? If they haven't been already!

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    Keep it out of PERB. If you allow it it will only be feeding the trolls.

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    I disagree with any censorship. Take all postings with a grain of salt. Some posters are believable. Many only to a degree. Use your head or hide it in the sand. Your choice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Miss Hunter View Post
    Actually ..I gave this subject some thought while I was on my run.. I retract my statement about full censorship.. BBFS has become rampant in the industry. I don't think ignoring the situation anymore helps either.

    But, at the same time, I don't know what the right answer is.
    There is no right answer because the problem is worldwide and unfortunately many will not use their god given ability to choose properly .....the only productive reason not allowing the posting of bbfs reports etc is that it will take away a tool from a troll, pissed off client or stalker.... to harm a sp and her reputation. In a perfect world there would be no demand from a client for this..then the sp who is in a tough existence would never have to provide the service putting herself at risk in my opinion.
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    I dont promote or think its ok..the rerason i wud like to let people know is that certain sps dont give a shit..i will never ever do bbfs but u damn better believe its out there..it true oh its true! I also dont do daty often i can say less than a handful of times..but if i wud have known earlier that bbfs was on menu i wudnt bother with that service.
    There are a lot of people who like it raw but for safetys sake we need to boycott this practice. and its been available to me a lot.
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    I agree with the current policy. But PerbMod needs to step up their policing of this policy. PerbMod likely searches for "bbfs" on a regular basis, but there are posts out there that will have phrases like "uncovered full service". I would like to see these posts deleted and appropriate people punished as well.

    JD

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    I don't mean to hijack the thread.

    And I'd never MYSELF start a thread about BBFS. I'm just posting on an EXISTING thread about it. And, this is probably as fitting of a thread to ask:

    Transmitting STI s and STDs are obviously a huge concern.

    Maybe this is where all of you can fill ME in: Aren't GUYS who engage in BBFS, especially if married, worried about IMPREGNATING the woman? Imagine, she keeps your email or number, and comes at you with a paternity suit 9-15 months later. I'm sure that if they want to, they CAN find you.

    What happens with a male pooner who gets an escort pregnant, and she decides to keep the child?

    Years ago, a Thai girl gave me BBBJ, and when I asked to finish Doggy, she was about to "let me enter," and I sat there stunned, "Er, aren't you going to put a condom on me?" She did, but was she going to let me BBFS her if I wanted to? (For the record, I'm too CHICKEN to do it). Around that time, a pretty and friendly, but exhausted (overworked) Kgirl asked me to "enter her" Mish, and when I stood there stunned, she said, "Oh, you want a condom for this?" I mean WTH of course I did!

    I heard of a Kgirl, who this guy thought because HE was also Asian, she liked him, and he believes SHE "poked pinholes in the condom" when she went to get it from the bathroom. After he finished, he said there were 4 or 5 holes (think about how a pinhole can EXPAND when the condom is stretched. He said his cum was spilling on her, and he thought it spilled INSIDE if her. He was scared and got tested a few times. Fortunately came out clean. He prays the condom just honestly broke, and that she didn't poke holes in it.

    I won't get TOO graphic here: In high school, I grew up during the AIDS scare time. We were shown slides of diseased genitalia, and THAT deterred me from BBFS at age 17!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mocha La Mulata View Post
    I believe that in an Escort/Client - SugarBaby/SugarDaddy relationship, tribing... rubbing genitals together... using same condom when going from one person to the other... using same fingers or not washing them when fingering two people... and also masturbating and then touching the other person's genitals... Those activities should all be considered just as dangerous as BBFS and Creampie (both cuming in or out). One's cum, precum or natural lubrification should not go anywhere near another person's genitals.

    Those activities and offering BBFS or partaking in them, isn't just harmful for people in the SP/Client world, but it's also harmful to everybody having intercourse with those individuals outside the hobby.
    This is very accurate, I have to say there are sadly many clients out there that inquire or take part in those acts during a session with a SP (I know because I was actively one for a good while). It is lack of medical and sexual education. I had many university educated businessmen being surprised that I did not let their genitals touch mine without protection, stating "but I am not putting it in", or men in other aspects of my life saying "uncircumcised men don't get yeast infections, the foreskin is natural protection against it" etc. etc. The amount of wrong education on sexual topics is frightening even in this age of internet and easy access to knowledge.

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    I'm all for flagging those BBFS and Creampie ads. And I'm all for exchanging info about those individuals asking for it and those escorts providing it.
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    Exposing people offering/requesting BBFS and Creampie should only be allowed with proof like screenshots of text/email conversations.
    I agree with flagging, and deleting posts about BBFS as sadly, many who publicly deny their desire, seek it in private anyway. I have seen this first hand, members of even this forum who ask about it in emails or try it in person. But I do not agree with outing, because information exchanged in private email or text should remain that way, not to be made public in screenshots, and in my opinion, also, this is not a burden for this forum, or the mods, to take on. It is also not verifiable, and may harm the reputation of a SP if falsely accused with no recourse.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mocha La Mulata View Post
    Escorts do rely on each other to blacklist emails and numbers requesting for BBFS.
    This is very true, clients who ask for these from reputable SPs often quickly get blacklisted. I think this forum's policy to delete references to the topic to any person is the most straightforward, effective rule, already.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JimDandy View Post
    I agree with the current policy. But PerbMod needs to step up their policing of this policy. PerbMod likely searches for "bbfs" on a regular basis, but there are posts out there that will have phrases like "uncovered full service". I would like to see these posts deleted and appropriate people punished as well.

    JD
    I would love to read though and police every single post, but the fact is, I am one person, a volunteer, who has a job and responsibilities in the RW that mean I cannot live on the board 24/7. That's why we have the function to flag posts and we ask the community to help in its own policing. Even when I am pressed for time, I always look at the flagged posts and PMs first, even when there are 7 or 8 pages of new threads (150-200 of them some days, many with dozens of posts in threads.)

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    There are guys who never post a review whose opinion means nothing to me.
    There are guys and gals who post credible reviews that I know and trust.
    Who does what is discussed with those ones via pm or more likely completely off the board.
    As said already, everything hinges on the credibility of the accuser or defendant.
    If you don't know who to trust any such debate is pointless.
    On the other hand, thoughtful discussion with people you do trust is very helpful.

    The problem with open debate is the damage it can do to the innocent. Not just providers who are accused of doing it, but a customers accused of constantly demanding it.

    I might tell a person I heard a rumour about a certain guy or gal doing bare. After discussing it with several people we may form our own judgements.

    I DO NOT want someone to take that rumour and tell everyone that I said xxx is doing bare.

    So it's better to just keep it private with people who won't jump to conclusions.
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    I took that risk back in the early 80's. I caught the clap. And, boy, did I learn my lesson.

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