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    A question forthe Canucks: Exactly how many minutes are there in a Canadian hour?

    Before I get into the reason for my question, a bit of background info is in order. I live in Washington State, and have been visiting some of the lovely SP's in Vancouver for the past year and a half... lured by the lovely ladies, and spurred into because of the nice exchange rate discount. I've been hobbying for about 9 years, both in the PNW and Las Vegas.

    During my interactions up north, all of which were outcalls to my hotel, I've noticed a disturbing trend. Sadly most of the ladies have been leaving early, shutting down the appointment anywhere from 10 to 25 minutes early. Curiously, none of them had even bothered to ask if it was OK to do so. They simply announce that it's time for them to prepare for departure. While I occasionally see this in my neck of the woods, it's definitely the exception rather than the rule, and the lady will usually ask if it's OK to depart early.

    So, is this the norm for the ladies north of the border? If so, I'll simply adjust my expectations. I will say, however, that nearly all of the sessions have been stellar, so I didn't complain to to the ladies directly. However, one of my recent sessions ended up in a complete Fail, which has prompted me to raise this question with the board.

    The bigger problem with this issue is that it goes hand in hand with clockwatching, where one bad habit can sometimes lead to another. What often happens is that the clockwatcher will arbitrarily decide that the session is over, when they assume that there's not enough time remaining for the gent to finish, and illogically conclude that it's then OK to zip on out of there.

    In my case, the SP simply announced that it was time for her to get dressed and prepare for departure. However, we were only at the 95th minute of a 2 hour session. When I pointed this out to her, she looked at me with a look that said it wasn't her problem. I then tried appealing to her sense of fair play, to no avail. She then asked if I wanted to extend the session, the ultimate buzzkill. At that point I just wanted her gone.

    BTW, this was a top end SP, both in reviews and rate, who basically treated me like a noob. Initially, she was late for the appointment, and made it worse by yakking for about 30 minutes before getting down to business. To be fair, the next hour with her was stellar, with with no problems or issues whatsoever. There was nothing obvious that precipitated her morphing into the wicked witch of the west. LOL SMH

    The words spoiled and self entitled come to mind, but before making any judgments, I'd love to hear your thoughts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thefoozler View Post
    Before I get into the reason for my question, a bit of background info is in order. I live in Washington State, and have been visiting some of the lovely SP's in Vancouver for the past year and a half... lured by the lovely ladies, and spurred into because of the nice exchange rate discount. I've been hobbying for about 9 years, both in the PNW and Las Vegas.

    During my interactions up north, all of which were outcalls to my hotel, I've noticed a disturbing trend. Sadly most of the ladies have been leaving early, shutting down the appointment anywhere from 10 to 25 minutes early. Curiously, none of them had even bothered to ask if it was OK to do so. They simply announce that it's time for them to prepare for departure. While I occasionally see this in my neck of the woods, it's definitely the exception rather than the rule, and the lady will usually ask if it's OK to depart early.

    So, is this the norm for the ladies north of the border? If so, I'll simply adjust my expectations. I will say, however, that nearly all of the sessions have been stellar, so I didn't complain to to the ladies directly. However, one of my recent sessions ended up in a complete Fail, which has prompted me to raise this question with the board.

    The bigger problem with this issue is that it goes hand in hand with clockwatching, where one bad habit can sometimes lead to another. What often happens is that the clockwatcher will arbitrarily decide that the session is over, when they assume that there's not enough time remaining for the gent to finish, and illogically conclude that it's then OK to zip on out of there.

    In my case, the SP simply announced that it was time for her to get dressed and prepare for departure. However, we were only at the 95th minute of a 2 hour session. When I pointed this out to her, she looked at me with a look that said it wasn't her problem. I then tried appealing to her sense of fair play, to no avail. She then asked if I wanted to extend the session, the ultimate buzzkill. At that point I just wanted her gone.

    BTW, this was a top end SP, both in reviews and rate, who basically treated me like a noob. Initially, she was late for the appointment, and made it worse by yakking for about 30 minutes before getting down to business. To be fair, the next hour with her was stellar, with with no problems or issues whatsoever. There was nothing obvious that precipitated her morphing into the wicked witch of the west. LOL SMH

    The words spoiled and self entitled come to mind, but before making any judgments, I'd love to hear your thoughts.
    Did this happen recently? I hope you didn't start raving and ranting about how Donald Trump is going to make America great again? That can turn a few Canadians off. Just kidding.

    I have only pooned in Canada. About three years, close to 65 girls for about 95 sessions. Apart from about 10 average to below average sessions, I have to say rest were good and above good. May be because I do my research very well. I have never had an SP see me in my hotel room, although I do not think that should be a factor.

    I had a similar experience like yours. I had this fairly popular sp waste about ten, fifteen minutes time going at the beginning. She was going on and on about .... random stuff about her photographer, makeup girl, hair stylist (Oh yea, we men LOVE hearing those things). while I was on the bed, face down, as instructed by her, waiting for the massage to start. But after that, I felt her crawl on to my back and soon her hot wet tongue went to work .... anyways .. it was a great forty five minutes ride.

    Apart from those I have never really faced the clockwatcher syndrome much. I guess you need to do more research before booking someone.

    Good Luck.
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    Let's hear some names. Who was it you saw that did this ?

    Your post is of no value to us otherwise, other than some vague lame ass observations on time and space across an artificial border.

    Clearly you're seeing the wrong girls. Tell us who they are and you help a lot of us avoid wasting time with those fakes and eventually they will go out of business or improve their service levels ( win win either way in my book )?

    Meanwhile our community will try to reward you with suggestions of girls who respect your time and money.

    Finally, after that build up, if you won't name names , I'm likely to include there's likely some bullshit in your story somewhere.

    So, who were they?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lance alot View Post
    Let's hear some names. Who was it you saw that did this ?

    Your post is of no value to us otherwise, other than some vague lame ass observations on time and space across an artificial border.

    Clearly you're seeing the wrong girls. Tell us who they are and you help a lot of us avoid wasting time with those fakes and eventually they will go out of business or improve their service levels ( win win either way in my book )?

    Meanwhile our community will try to reward you with suggestions of girls who respect your time and money.

    Finally, after that build up, if you won't name names , I'm likely to include there's likely some bullshit in your story somewhere.

    So, who were they?
    And when you do name them, prepare yourself for the stampede...



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    Quote Originally Posted by Man Mountain View Post
    And when you do name them, prepare yourself for the stampede...



    Hilarious Man Mountain, as always. Ok, maybe I was a little over zealous. Smack down noted.

    (And just to clarify your cultural references, Excalibur was King Arthur's sword. Lancelot's was Arondight)

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    Quote Originally Posted by take8easy View Post
    Did this happen recently? I hope you didn't start raving and ranting about how Donald Trump is going to make America great again? That can turn a few Canadians off. Just kidding.

    I have only pooned in Canada. About three years, close to 65 girls for about 95 sessions. Apart from about 10 average to below average sessions, I have to say rest were good and above good. May be because I do my research very well. I have never had an SP see me in my hotel room, although I do not think that should be a factor.

    I had a similar experience like yours. I had this fairly popular sp waste about ten, fifteen minutes time going at the beginning. She was going on and on about .... random stuff about her photographer, makeup girl, hair stylist (Oh yea, we men LOVE hearing those things). while I was on the bed, face down, as instructed by her, waiting for the massage to start. But after that, I felt her crawl on to my back and soon her hot wet tongue went to work .... anyways .. it was a great forty five minutes ride.

    Apart from those I have never really faced the clockwatcher syndrome much. I guess you need to do more research before booking someone.

    Good Luck.
    LOL... yes, if I were a Trump supporter I would be deserving of the shabby treatment, but then again, I'd probably be too stupid to figure out how to consult a review board in the first place.

    Glad to hear that nearly all of your experiences were good and above... mine were as well, except for the time issue that I described. I do think that outcall is a bit different than incall, as it's easier for the SP to pick up and leave at an outcall. Kicking a guy out early at her incall can be a bit tougher.

    In 9 years of pooning, I've only had a couple of bad experiences, so research hasn't been a problem for me. In this case, it seems as if the SP is self entitled, and a bit of a diva... something that you don't normally see in a review.

    Thanks for your courteous response.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thefoozler View Post
    LOL... yes, if I were a Trump supporter I would be deserving of the shabby treatment, but then again, I'd probably be too stupid to figure out how to consult a review board in the first place.

    Glad to hear that nearly all of your experiences were good and above... mine were as well, except for the time issue that I described. I do think that outcall is a bit different than incall, as it's easier for the SP to pick up and leave at an outcall. Kicking a guy out early at her incall can be a bit tougher.

    In 9 years of pooning, I've only had a couple of bad experiences, so research hasn't been a problem for me. In this case, it seems as if the SP is self entitled, and a bit of a diva... something that you don't normally see in a review.

    Thanks for your courteous response.
    IMHO, if she acted as a diva and tried it pull that trick on someone before, I bet on it being mentioned in at least one review of her. Also, feel free to drop names so others don't waste their time and money on her. I mean she short changed you (by 25 minutes) and that is just not right. If it happened to me, I would make sure I bring it to other members' attention.
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    There are quite a few quality providers here who will give you the full value of your time. You are right to expect certain standards from highly paid professionals. If you pay a lawyer for a 1-hour consultation, I cannot imagine they tell you to leave at 55 min mark when you have a small question/clarification remaining.

    For GFE providers, cutting time short is particularly bad because it makes it clear she's not much into you and negates the whole experience. Even on non-GFE side, there are enough good SPs here who offer a massage / cuddle / talk in your remaining time.

    Quote Originally Posted by thefoozler View Post
    Glad to hear that nearly all of your experiences were good and above... mine were as well, except for the time issue that I described. I do think that outcall is a bit different than incall, as it's easier for the SP to pick up and leave at an outcall. Kicking a guy out early at her incall can be a bit tougher.
    Most of reviews here are about incalls. There's less collective experience about outcalls, SPs also may not have standards set.
    At the very minimum, if you have 2 hours of entertainment booked, I'd expect about 2 hours of her time from the moment she comes in till she leaves.

    Even that is somewhat strict, I doubt counting her 2 solo showers as a part of your time is fair.

    In incalls, girls have a set of common 'hint' phrases that the time is over soon. If you hear one of those too early, it may be no ill will, maybe she doesn't know what to talk about. You can think of responses that communicate 1) you acknowledge time boundaries and 2) time is not up yet. The reasonable girls wont mind at least chatting in the remaining time you paid for, there should be some topics that you can discuss.

    Should be similar with outcalls if she's confused about time or got a wrong signal from you. If she's clearly decided on cutting it short, it could be a mutually disastrous YMMV situation, something that doesn't happen with great providers often at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yvr_hacker View Post
    Not to try to piss you off man, but did you ever give thought that you did something to make them want to end it early?
    No offense taken, LOL. And yes, I did consider that possibility. The thing is, we got along great for the first hour and a half, although we started off at a snails pace. And with a normal finish, the session would have been a 10. What's telling, however, is that she asked if I wanted to extend, so it clearly wasn't about me.

    As for the others, I tend to repeat with many of the SP's I've seen. And I have accumulated a nice Whitelist on TER, including one from Aellyn... so sad to see that she's been taken off the market. She's all-world in my view. Also, on the day after the debacle, I had a stellar session with one of the Outlook girls, Inaya, who rocked my world, and definitely restored my faith in the Vancouver SP's. LOL. That's one special group they've got going up there... kudos to whomever is in charge of recruiting.

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